What's the threshold?

topic posted Sun, May 6, 2007 - 11:30 AM by  Yul
What's the threshold between sanity and insanity? According to what I've observed, the threshold is often whatever each person defines it to be. To me that doesn't make sense. Yet at the same time, it does make sense. That's because we live in a dystopia: A world where nonesense makes sense. Consider this: When I first learned about Asperger's disorder (which I don't recognize as a real mental disorder), I asked the therapist I was seeing at the time if I had it. After consulting her copy of the DSM-IV-TR, she determined that I didn't have Asperger's disorder even though I had some of the symptoms -- and borderline at that. Some weeks later, she suddenly decided that I did have Asperger's disorder. Apprently, this was because she had gone to some psychological conference of some sort. When I asked her if Asperger's disorder would even be considered a disorder of the majority of people had it, she said it wouldn't be a disorder in that case. I guess that's what I get for seeing a therapist who's not as smart as I am. (Geico.com. It's so easy, a therapist can use it.)

I suspect that mental illness is often defined by the kind of environment you're living in. (I got that notion from some psychological book I read a couple of years ago.) The current environment in which I live defines me as being mentally disturbed since I continue to resist conforming. But if I lived in an environment where the majority of people behaved in a manner similar to mine, then I'd be defined as being quite sane. But since I'm stuck in this dystopian pseudo-society and since I find conforming to many of its ways to be extremely boring, it looks like the best option I have is to associate as much as possible with people who can tolerate my atypical personality. And I've say that before a bunch of times.
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  • Re: What's the threshold?

    Mon, May 7, 2007 - 9:16 PM
    Hmmm

    Makes sense to me.
    • Re: What's the threshold?

      Tue, May 8, 2007 - 7:48 AM
      It seems strange to me...my general experience has been: so many therapists, so many diagnoses. There seems to be a lack of consistency with therapists' and doctors' conclusions, many times (not always). What does that mean? How can we trust their diagnoses if there is a breach in consistency? I would be concerned about my therapist's apparent flipflop. Did you talk to her about it? How do you feel about that?
      • Re: What's the threshold?

        Tue, May 8, 2007 - 8:28 PM
        It is all subjective isn't it, our relative sanity?
        • Re: What's the threshold?

          Tue, May 8, 2007 - 8:39 PM
          Yul,
          What specific sort of behavior is it that causes other people's difficulties with you? I can understand, that, say one wants to be naked in public. I have no problem with nudity. However, I do not walk around naked in public because that would compromise other's comfort, and cause me problems with the authorities. I do however seek out and enjoy places where this behavior is acceptable. Is it possible for you to do something likewise? Just an idea... : )
          • Re: What's the threshold?

            Wed, May 9, 2007 - 2:17 PM
            At times the difference between sanity/insanity is as little as a realization. Many times I have had revelations in which I got an insight into my own behavior that was causing me a lot of suffering; usually having to do with faulty attributions of other people's behaviors, motivations which I could trace back to earlier negative experiences / home life. I don't think childhood is the source of all insanity/sanity though sometimes it does serious harm to a person's self worth and confidence for example if they are defeatist: "I was abused- I got off to a bad start. I'm doomed." Someone with a more positive outlook will fare much better. Frequently the word "insane" is bandied about with questionable motives, ,meaning "I can't relate, I don't want to relate, in fact I wish to blame you (scapegoat).
  • Re: What's the threshold?

    Wed, April 9, 2008 - 5:07 PM
    Interesting point. I can't get a decisive diagnosis on whether I have Bipolar II or not. Apparently, I technically do not have it unless my "hypomanic" episodes last more than 4 days (or some other arbitrary number). By this logic, the difference between a 47 and 49 hour episode is what defines the disorder. I am suspicious about this kind of diagnosis based on objective criteria...but, on the other hand, subjective decisions about a person's "sanity" are also highly suspect. So, in conclusion, I have no clue. :-)

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