burning man

topic posted Tue, January 15, 2008 - 9:54 PM by  jordan
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hey guys, it may not seem like it but burning man is coming up soon. Tickets are on sale and the longer you wait the more they cost. Who wants to come? It is quite an expensive venture, but well worth it. if you guys can put together a good video maybe you can get a spot in the Conclave (the 1000 person fire show that goes on right before The Man burns on the last night). if you do that you will get some free tickets the next year. in any case, you should ask the whole monkeys if they want to go, if you or they have any questions drop me a line or reply here, and let me know as soon as you know you are coming.

-Jordan
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  • Re: burning man

    Wed, January 16, 2008 - 12:02 AM
    Do you know what the deadline is for submitting a video to be part of conclave? And from your past experiences, are there often many torch jugglers as part of conclave?

    -Matt
    • Re: burning man

      Wed, January 16, 2008 - 12:37 PM
      here is the E-mail that Crimson Rose (the person in charge of conclave) sent out about it. as for how many torch jugglers there are, it is 1000 fire performers, so there are torches. that said, it's not nearly as common as poi, staff, fans, hoop, and breathing.


      CRITERIA FOR BECOMING A GROUP WITHIN THE FIRE CONCLAVE 2008

      CHALLENGE ONCE AGAIN
      I challenge the Fire Performers of today and I know that you will meet
      and embrace it whole heartedly. Leave the past dances alone and take
      the evolutionary leap. If you have done a dance a certain way then try
      something else. That is the whole point of choerography to try new
      dances, moves, new tools. Stretch your imagination. The drive
      to excel fire dance is a continued push for evolution. New and
      different moves that propel a flaming tool through the air takes on
      new life.

      For those of you that have gifted your fire love within the Great
      Circle, I ask that you read the information again even IF you think
      you know. Every year we start fresh, no one is guaranteed a spot
      within the Great Circle.

      You ask WHY must I choreography the fire dance? Because everybody and
      their "mother" is utilizing fire as part of their dance. Simple fire
      dance moves use to wow the crowds, that is not the way it is any more.
      We want more.

      IMPORTANT FOR THIS YEAR - Each group must be comprised of at least 10
      fire performers plus support staff.


      STEP ONE ~ COMMUNICATE INTENT - TELL ME

      STEP TWO ~ CREATE CHOREOGRAPHY

      STEP THREE ~ SUBMIT MEDIA - SHOW ME


      CRITERIA FOR BECOMING A GROUP WITHIN THE FIRE CONCLAVE

      All groups, old or new, will be required to audition for admission
      into the Fire Conclave membership, and will be considered based on the
      following:

      • SHIN - there must be one person who will take charge and be the
      leader of a group. INCLUDING being present on the playa until after
      burn night.
      • Consciousness of Safety and understand the protocols at all times
      • Complete and quality of application information.
      • Clarity and ease of communication between Crimson and Shin.
      • Communications between Shin and members of the group.
      • Quality of proposed performance content.
      • Adherence to rules, standards, deadlines.
      • Rally a group of free spirited individuals.
      • Lead with a firm but flexible and patient hand.
      • Be willing to vouch and be responsible for the actions of all
      members of their group.
      • AND recognize spinning in the Great Circle is an honor and a gift.
      • Being responsible for wrangling cats on fire in a choreographed
      fire dance and communicating all necessary information.

      • Qualified entries will create choreography. This can include any
      fire tool and is open to broad interpretation in an effort to
      encourage diversity and creativity from the Fire Artists in the
      community.

      • Anything beyond the standard tools, MUST be Ok'd by Crimson before
      assuming that it will be allowed inside the Great Circle.

      • Fire Conclave is given 25 minutes to dance. This can be broken up in
      how ever you feel it works for you. You might only have 15 minutes of
      dance, that is fine. You can do chaos / free style after that.



      STEP ONE STEP ONE STEP ONE STEP ONE
      COMMUNICATE INTENT - TELL ME

      DEADLINE - MARCH 1, 2008
      IF IF IF - A Shin from past years is going to pass the Shin reins to
      another person, I must hear from the present Shin before I accept the
      new one.
      • Shin will communicate the intention that their group is interested
      in performing and willing to meet the criteria, deadlines and
      responsibilities.
      • The Shin may or may not know in March how many performers or who the
      support staff is or what kind of dance the group will be creating. All
      of this is fine.
      • Because of the crazy nature of life in general the Shin may want to
      name a person that will assist them with activities, carry part of the
      load. This is what we call Shin Assist.
      • Even if you have communicated with me since the last event, please
      send another email with as much of the following information:

      • NAME OF GROUP:
      • NAME OF SHIN:
      • SHIN EMAIL ADRESS:
      • SNAIL MAIL ADDRESS:
      • GROUP WEB SITE ADDRESS:
      • LOCATION IN THE WORLD:
      • SHIN ASSIST:
      • HELMSMEN:
      • LIST OF PERFORMERS (if you know) WITH THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION:
      NAME
      EMAIL ADDRESS
      LOCATION
      POSITION
      TOOL


      AFTER COMMUNICATING INTENTION
      Once March 1st deadline has arrived, a discussion list for the Shin's,
      Shins Assist will be created. The list will communicate details that
      are essential for further information and to share knowledge among
      other groups. As the years progresses we will add the Helmsmen to the
      list as well.



      STEP TWO STEP TWO STEP TWO
      CREATE CHOREOGRAPHY

      • Create Choreography – The art of composing dances, the movement and
      patterns of a dance composition means there is thought to the dance.

      The direction for the Fire Conclave is choreographed dances, the
      opposite to simple fire jam/ chaos. There is nothing wrong with free
      form fire jams and each group will get a chance at a bit of chaos. But
      to step within the boundary of the Great Circle, there needs to be
      more. A diverse range of styles and techniques, choreograph with
      intention make the best contribution to the Fire Conclave. “Fire
      Dance” does NOT mean only one kind of dance or only a small number of
      tools. Fire Dance is as diverse and wide ranging as the imagination of
      the dancer that lights up. It is human nature to evolve and the drive
      to move fire dance to the next evolutionary leap is no exception.
      Because of the diverse level of the membership of the Fire Conclave,
      some of you are already familiar with creating choreographed dances.
      While others are not use to thinking in this direction, it become a
      stretch (in a good way) of your creative mind. The dance can include
      any fire tool and is open to broad interpretation in an effort to
      encourage diversity and creativity from fire artists in the community.
      Choreography does not necessarily
      mean a synchronized dance, but it could.



      STEP THREE STEP THREE STEP THREE
      SUBMIT MEDIA - SHOW ME ~ DEADLINE - JULY 1, 2008

      • Submit Media – This could be in any form; video, DVD, web address. I
      am able to view the following applications: Windows Media Player or
      QuickTime Player.

      • The media should show as much of the dance that is possible. I
      understand that sometimes it is impossible to have the full group
      together at one time. The media is to give me a basic idea of what you
      are planning to do.

      • PLEASE PLEASE DO NOT, send your promo media of your group. I want to
      see the dance.
      NOT a fire jam session
      NOT the dance from Burning Man 2007 or past years.
      Show me the dance

      • Written Information
      • Name of Group
      • Name of Shin
      • List all members of the group with the following information:
      • Name
      • Position (performers, helmsmen, fire watch or drummers)
      • Email address

      • Written Detailed Plan of the dance that will be presented on the
      playa that will accompany the media.

      • For those that live in the Bay Area, it is possible to do a Show Me
      in person, please schedule ahead of time.






      Crimson Rose

      Naked Fire Goddess by Night
      Director of Art Management by Day
      )'( www.burningman.com

      www.crimsonrose.org

      May The Heat Of The Man's Flame Stay In Your Heart Long After The
      Embers Have Died.
      • Re: burning man

        Thu, January 17, 2008 - 8:36 PM
        Uhm, not to be a killjoy, but non-senior monkeys might have a problem attending BM because in past years I'm pretty sure it has conflicted with the beginning of classes in Sept... just FYI.
        • Re: burning man

          Thu, January 24, 2008 - 1:21 AM
          actually i had someone check the schedule and burning man ends the day before you have to be back at vassar. BM ends september 1st and classes start sept 2nd. and if you don't stay for the last day, which a lot of people don't, you even have 2 days to travel. you could even leave on sunday which gives you 3 days to travel. no problem at all. saterday night is all that's really important, though you may want to sleep it off a bit.

          -jordan
  • Re: burning man

    Wed, January 23, 2008 - 8:02 PM
    I want to go, for sure, but need to find out what the deal is with getting time off from work... assuming I'm still working at my current job at that point, which is fairly likely.

    Though if this DOES happen, it will not be a last-minute debacle like it was last year. Ew. I think I ended up watching all of season 1 of Alias instead of dancing around in the desert, naked and on fire.
    • Re: burning man

      Wed, January 23, 2008 - 8:49 PM
      Agreed. I wants very much to attend. With none of the lameness that transpired last time 'round. At present, given that I don't even <i>have</i> a job, I'm hoping that I get one, and then find a way to take time off from it.
      • Re: burning man

        Thu, January 24, 2008 - 10:33 AM
        Yeah I would like very much to go, and in fact, am planning on it. The how and why are things that haven't been resolved yet. Do people want to keep talking about it here? this seems like as good a forum for discussion as any.

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