Biguy in a hetero relationship

topic posted Mon, November 6, 2006 - 7:26 PM by  Unsubscribed
I'm a biguy who has been in a relationship with a woman for 6 years. When we first got together I was open about my sexuality... She also had had a few experinces with girlfriends. It looked like a very promisig future. But after a few years things have turned out to be much more tame than I had hoped.

Sometimes I feel trapped with the most beautiful girl of my life. Athough I love her and want to be with her, I wonder if I'm not being true to the bigger picture.
Anyone else have any thoughts or experience in this situation?
-Best regards
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  • Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

    Tue, November 7, 2006 - 4:25 PM
    He Biguy,

    I cant tell u what to do, of course. I just ended my LTR with a beautiful woman that I really care about. Had been screwing around with men and could not continue to live the lie.

    Is she open to an Open Relationship?

    Feelin yah,

    Joey
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      Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

      Tue, November 7, 2006 - 6:59 PM
      I hear ya. She is most likely not into an open relationship... otherwise I think we would have already shared more in our sexual lives.
      It's a crazE conundrum...

      I don't want ot lose her. I don't want to hurt her... and I really don't know what to do.

      I've strayed away from cheating on her because guilt is a real bitch....
      Lost somewhere in between.
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        Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

        Wed, November 8, 2006 - 3:31 PM
        Love one person, make love to many. The one is greater than the many. Therein lies the strength.
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          Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

          Wed, November 8, 2006 - 3:41 PM
          Paul,
          That's an awesome quote. Thanks.
          I wish my grilie really felt the same way.
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            Thu, November 9, 2006 - 5:33 AM
            It's a tough call since a bisexual needs both sexes to be fully satisfied
            My advice: romance her but don't marry her. this way when you stray to be with a Man there won't be a big messy divorce if she finds out and you wont lose your shirt in the end.
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              Thu, November 9, 2006 - 11:02 AM
              >>My advice: romance her but don't marry her. this way when you stray to be with a Man there won't be a big messy divorce if she finds out and you wont lose your shirt in the end.<<

              This is kind of how I see it.

              It's also a reason why I've decided that when I pursue relationships with women I'll be honest about myself, my sexuality, and my want for an open polyfidelitous relationship. This is why at this current time I haven't ever pursued a relationship with a woman and I've only cultivated ones with men.
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                Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

                Fri, November 10, 2006 - 6:52 PM
                Thanks Jake and Newt,
                I love this gal... but I'm not sure that we would ever get married in the traditional way.
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                  Sun, November 26, 2006 - 5:34 AM
                  I am actually married and I have known my wife for ten years now. I have always been up front and honest with her and she has always known that I am attracted to and like having sex with guys. It’s always been hard to explain our relationship to others. We have never met anyone with a similar relationship and at least half of our gay friends don’t believe in bisexuality.

                  I trust my wife more than I have ever trusted anyone in my life. She has never lied to me. I don’t lie to her. She has no problem with me having sex with guys. She isn’t in denial. I am not cheating on her. I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. She knows that and she trusts me.

                  Like any relationship, we have had our ups and downs. But we talk things out and have grown stronger. Yeah, I know it’s cliche, but communication is key. We have seen little things tear apart the relationships of our friends. It’s confusing. We might get mad at each other. But after we (or maybe I should say “I”) cool down, we talk it out.

                  I have had more of a problem from my relationships with guys. I have dated guys and have had fuck buddies since I have been with my wife. She’s known about these relationships. We’ve talked about them and she’s even tried to help me in them. She has met some of the guys I have seen and has tried to offer them advice on getting along with me.

                  Some of the guys that I have seen have complained that my relationship with them is not like my relationship with my wife or that they want my relationship with them to be just like my relationship with my wife. And I explain that I have known my wife for many years and that it took time and effort to get to where we are right now.

                  Some guys just can’t accept my wife. Anyone who knows us for any length of time knows we are committed to each other forever. Anyone who thinks that they can come between us, quickly learns the impossibility of that. And anyone who tries to come between me and my wife will be ejected from my life immediately.

                  When I first met my wife, she didn’t want to hear about my exploits with guys. She didn’t ask that I not sleep with guys, but she asked me to keep that part separate from her. Then she started to become more comfortable with it and started to ask questions. I would answer her questions honestly and gently. Sometimes the information would be too much for her and she’d ask me to stop and I would. Immediately. I never pushed her past where she was comfortable.

                  Eventually we progressed to where we could talk pretty openly about my exploits. She could meet the guys I was seeing and we could all go out to dinner together. Again, I never lied to her. Never kept anything secret from her. If I felt trapped or that something was unfair, I would tell her an we would talk it out. She would tell me why she felt more comfortable if things were a certain way, and we would talk it out. And we would both be willing to compromise. I care about her feelings. I know she cares about mine. And we try to be fair to each other.

                  When I first proposed to my wife, she turned me down. She said that when she married that she wanted it to be for real. Yeah, that hurt. My feelings for her were for real. But you’ve got to understand the society that we live in. And you can’t be quick to lash out when you’re hurt. Society says that monogamy is “for real.” Society says that heterosexual marriages are “for real.” A lot of gays don’t even acknowledge the existence of bisexuality.

                  So even though I was hurt, I didn’t lash out. My relationship with my wife was too important. We stayed together. We continued to grow. We talked things out. I explained my position, my views about life. And we both realized that we wanted to spend our lives together, that we want to grow old together. So eventually we did get married.

                  So that’s my own experience with having a wife and being attracted to guys.
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                    Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

                    Sun, November 26, 2006 - 12:07 PM
                    I liked your story Dag, thanks!

                    I kind of operate like you - totally honest, gently revealing more as my largely hetero female partners were ready and asked to know more. It takes two really great people to be so honest with each other and keep working towards their common goals together. Congratulations!
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                    Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

                    Fri, December 1, 2006 - 11:34 PM
                    You guys rock.
                    Thanks for sharing such a positive story.
                    Inspiring.
  • Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

    Sun, November 26, 2006 - 7:54 PM
    Hi, speaking from the point of view of a married Bi-Guy.

    I got lucky . . I found one of the few women who, when I said I was bi went "That's kinda hot".
    I married that woman 8 years later. We've been married for 7, now.

    What we had, for the longest time was called "Gender Monogamy" although we didn't know it. She was bi also, although it's rare that she finds her own interest coinciding with that of another woman. With our relationship, we could fool around with members of our own sex, as long as we were safe. She even liked to hear the details on those rare events where something happened. She even watched once or twice.

    Gender Monogamy served us for many many years . . . until I heard term "Polyamory" and my attention was stricken. Here is the possibility of working multiple partner arrangements, which is what I myself would vastly prefer & enjoy. Being a biguy, just about the best relationship I can possibly imagine is a Quad . . . 2 girls / 2 guys, everyone bi. Now to reach for that golden ring.

    The point I'm trying to make is . . . you opened with honesty . . . maybe honesty is the best prospect. If you honestly want to be with her & other men, nothing's wrong with wanting. You Love Her. No one, hopefully not she, will be offended by that. She may decide to say "No" . . . then you'll have another decision to make.

    Who knows, she may want to watch.
  • Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

    Tue, November 28, 2006 - 10:41 AM
    I can tell you that it's different for different guys. Some things, however will be the similar. Speaking from experience:

    You have to decide what kind of companion it is that you desire. If a guy fulfills all your sexual needs and you don't have any hangups about falling in love with another guy (some stupidly think that makes them feminine), then maybe you need a male companion. If you desire sex with women, then you need another bi-male for a companion or a gay man who is open-minded and accepts who you are beforehand. Some bi guys also don't want to fall in love with a man because they think that they can't have children. There are many answers to this alone, many of which include still having a child of their own genes naturally. Some guys are comfortable having a family in the public eye and cheating on the DL. Other guys like me have realized at some point that we don't want to live our lives a lie. Though attracted to both sexes, I do prefer men for love and sex. I'm fotunate to have matured to this at a young age. My first bf was 41 when I met him and only then beginning to accept his sexuality. He has two kids, and was divorcing his wife at the time. They were together for about 20 years and the entire time he was creeping around with guys for sex and companionship. I can't imagine living a life that long, worrying and stressing about fulfilling the desires that should already be fulfilled in a relationship.

    If things are only getting worse for you, it may be a sign that you two should part and try to remain friends if possible. Maybe find a counselor that can make it all easier through discussion. It's no one's ''fault'' and it's natural self-discovery. The longer it's put off, the more it will hurt in the end. This I also know from experience. Especially if a marriage and children are involved.

    Dag, your situation is rare and you are blessed to have your lady. Sounds like you both know what you want and need and it's very admirable that you stick to it. We need more folks like you two in this world.
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    Mon, September 24, 2007 - 9:59 AM
    this thread is old I know, but I'd love to know what happened to your relationship. I just started dating a female that knows about me and it's been an interesting road so far. I love her deeply and she is the first woman in a long time that has really got me excited about being in relationship. She says she is a gay man trapped in a womans body, so there is something really open about her in her concept of sexuality.

    I don't think bi men HAVE to partake of both sexes to be satisfied but it is the usual option.

    Let me know whats up with you guys...let's get some movement in this group.
    • Re: Biguy in a hetero relationship

      Sat, September 29, 2007 - 10:58 PM
      This is why I refuse to get involved with hetero women.
      I can't give them the relationship that they want.
      I'm not into even having serious relationships with women.
      I'm fine with having a friendship with benefits or just VERY casual dating where we have just sex.

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