Ok, so this is a question for virgin burners but directed at 2nd year burners.

What, if anything, did you bring to the playa that you thought you'd need or use but really didn't?

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    Mon, December 18, 2006 - 6:01 PM
    I brought too much food too. From what I hear, everyone does this their first burn. I actually did drink all my water, but I was paranoid about dehydration.
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      Mon, December 18, 2006 - 10:45 PM
      Yeah, at most half the food we brought. Actually, probably closer to a quarter of it. The playa does weird things to your appetite. =)
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        Mon, December 18, 2006 - 10:54 PM
        It does weird things to everything!
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          Tue, December 19, 2006 - 7:54 AM
          I'd go with food too. But then again we went to Yosemite for a few days after and I couldn't stop eating! I was glad to have it then.

          Many of the night time clothes. I ended up wearing the same thing every night because it was comfortable.

          I wish someone would have stressed what a pain in the ass those glowsticks are. The thin ones that you activate to make necklaces or bracelets? Fun, but dammit did they kill my hands!!

          Next year, it's LED lights all the way.

          I'd have to say that I worried too much about everything, but better to be well prepared than to be without something.
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            Tue, December 19, 2006 - 9:45 AM
            I like to bring too much food... especially pre-cooked ready to heat (or not) and eat! It's always awesome to see those kids that have been surviving on granola and peanut butter for 5 days when you offer them some delicious home-cooked vegetarian lasagna. in 2005, we gave two kids an entire grocery sack of ready-to-eat home-cooked meals. Oh, and a ziplock of mushy mush... That was good mushy, and I think the mush was still probably worth eating... :)
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            Sat, January 13, 2007 - 10:08 PM
            This post really cracked me up, I brought all LED light, blinkies bracelets and all that ilk. When I got there they were so blinkie and agitating that I hated them and swore this year I was only going to bring the thin glowsticks...

            HILARIOUS
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          Tue, January 9, 2007 - 11:29 PM
          Tuche on that one!! Not only did we come home with plenty of food and water, we didn't even unload half the cups and utensils we brought.

          TIP for the hair - check my picture... I had those braids in all week, they were fun and VERY practical. soaped up my scalp once, but that was about it. I'll do that every year, without question. My burner friends haven't the slightest clue what my hair really looks like until decom. Of course, you be whoever you want to be on the playa, and for me its a crazy girl with braids. Well, maybe a little more than that...
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    Tue, December 19, 2006 - 5:30 PM
    Every year I fine tune the list. The big key is planning and prepping well in advance.

    The biggest thing not to bring: unfinished projects!!!! Do not waste precious playa time on a half-finished costume or techno gizmo. If it's not done before you leave your house, it wasn't meant to happen. It is 10 times harder to do anything on-playa, you will be missing something, and you will make a mess. Actually it should be done a week ahead so you can test it thoroughly. Take stock 2 weeks before d-day and make the decision about what you will finish and what gets left behind.

    Leave behind anything that will become a mess. My 2nd year I brought ivy to weave into a sculpture, what a disaster! Do not bring plant materials unless you thoroughly prep them before departure so they will make NO MOOP! Do not bring wood, plastic pipe etc that you will have to cut or drill on site. All construction should be done and tested pre-playa!

    Ditch 1-use glowsticks and cheap plastic lights & novelty crap. LEDs are so cheap now, you can get a single 4-AA battery pack and light yourself for a few dollars. EL wire is still cool.

    Each year I bring less food and still always have some left. You must bring enough food, but you will not want to cook, you will not eat as much as you do at home, you will likely get food from others, and you will be content with simpler stuff than usual. Plan several meals and have snack stuff for quick snaps. I bake a big batch of granola bars each year.

    Plan your costumes well, realizing that you will wear the same thing several times. Have one or 2 day outfits and one, maybe 2 night outfits. Make/ amass accessories for these basic looks so you can mix it up. Plan with layers for varying temperatures.

    Bring less 'normal' clothes, but do bring a change of tough work clothes with boots and gloves and a spare set for after you exit the playa. I wear the same sarong and cape most days.

    Do not skimp on:
    socks
    water
    first aid
    foot/skin care products
    good goggles and quality dust masks
    shelter
    tent stakes

    Valuable luxuries:
    solar shower
    small folding chair
    extra tent for storage
    Small rug or mat
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      Wed, December 20, 2006 - 11:59 AM
      Too much: Food. Didn't eat that much out there, but once anything with a high fat content to it hit my lips, it was GONE.
      I found it easier to let a plasic jug of water warm up on a tail gate instead of using the solar shower bag,
      Normal wear....
      Not enough: GLOW, lighting in general, and excesories (both day and evening)

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        Wed, December 20, 2006 - 7:14 PM
        Oh yeah, I forgot about that too. I brought a solar shower bag, and I never used it either. I showered with a bug sprayer (worked well) and I just left in in the sun all day. I found that the best time to shower was about 4 or 5 pm (just as the afternoon is cooling off) and by then the water was nice and hot.
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          Thu, December 21, 2006 - 1:35 PM
          A simple spray bottle is adequate for bathing and uses little water. A pump sprayer is even better, especially the kind with a hose. Especially fun for showering with a friend! Just make sure it's a new sprayer...
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            Thu, December 21, 2006 - 1:43 PM
            Yeah, that's the kind I'm talking about. Got it at Home Despot, maybe cost me 15 or 20 bucks. It has a 2 gallon tank, with a hose and wand attachment. The top of the tank has a pump handle that the wand snaps into, and the wand has a locking trigger. So you can pump up the tank, snap the wand onto the top piece and set it up on a crate or milk crate. With the locking trigger, it leaves both hands free which is especially nice for washing your face and hair.

            Luxury. :)
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              Thu, December 21, 2006 - 1:48 PM
              Oh, and the other thing that's nice is that you use very little water. I could bathe, shampoo, and rinse on about a quart of water, maybe a little more if I felt like being decadent. There was so little grey water I didn't even bother trying to evaporate it. To shower, I'd stand in a big plastic tub. When you're done, use a funnel and pour the greywater back into an empty water bottle. Worked great, and by the end of the week I only had about three gallons of grey water.
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              Thu, December 21, 2006 - 2:05 PM
              I'd like to hear from a woman with lots of hair (like me) how showering with a bug sprayer as you did works out. I have a ton of hair and I'm not sure if a sprayer is going to do the trick when it comes to rinsing out shampoo. It sounds like a good idea... I just don't know if it will apply to all.

              My camp had somewhat elaborate showers, and you had to pull a rope to get water to flow from the large showerheads. That worked fine. But if water is not coming out from overhead with a certain amount of pressure, I don't know if it's going to rinse all the soap out of a mess of braids.

              I did use a sunshower one day, hooked up high to the sideview mirror of a Uhaul, and that was pretty effective as well.

              And yeah, showering late in the afternoon is ideal, definitely before the sun sets and it gets chilly. I would end my day with some time at the steam bath (to rehydrate my sinuses), taking a shower, and grabbing a disco nap before dinner.
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                Thu, December 21, 2006 - 10:51 PM
                I have lots of hair as well. I didn't put mine in braids though - would just do pigtails and sometimes braid those or had it up and out of my way somehow. have the same problem you do - requires a certain amount of water pressure to even get all the way through my hair, let alone rinse out shampoo. My camp had a shower which was wonderful, but the water pressure was a bit low to get through all my hair. It took some time to rinse everything out of my hair. In my opinion, there's NO way a sprayer would work for anyone with lots of hair. Just my $0.02.
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                  Fri, December 22, 2006 - 7:57 AM
                  When I had long hair, after a first year of wearing it loose and having it get super playafied, I had a friend braid it in lots of tiny braids, a practical and stylish solution. No soap touched them for two weeks and they were fine. Leaving long hair loose is asking for trouble out there.

                  A big thing you can do without is *Washing Your Hair*!!! Just rinse your scalp, your hair will be OK. Part of the benefit of extreme camping is teaching you what you can tolerate, and training you for what you will have to put up with when our deficit-funded empire goes belly-up.
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                    Fri, December 22, 2006 - 9:07 AM
                    Yes, extreme living is awesome! I have super thick hair, and found the rinse off without shampoo to work well, and ended up with two french braids, which easily facilitated evening wig wear. I highly reccomend wigs, makes the leap from costume into character!
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                      Sun, December 24, 2006 - 6:29 PM
                      I hate to braid, don't pull it back and no the spray shower didn't cut it. I justed a 1 litter bottle set out on a tail gate, it was warm by 11am, use just a little shampoo and rinse (1/3 bottle, use the run off to clean everywhere else), CONDITION (comb out with conditioner in), then finish rinsing, leaving a little conditioner rather than rinsing it all out. I generally used about 3/4 of a litter a day which evaporated quickly on a tarp.

                      The spray bottles worked great to balance the PH through the day, I recommend lemon juice instead of vinegar, that helped keep things from getting out of control more than anything else really.
                      • I have really long, thick hair. I use a tiny plastic tub (the kind that is made to go inside of a kitchen sink), a plastic pitcher (no need to funnel the water from the tub to the pitcher, just pour from the corner) and a pint of water. I baby wipe the "parts" and then use a dampened washcloth to "rinse" my skin. The rest of the water goes onto the scalp and I use a tiny dime size of shampoo. By pouring the water from the tub to the pitcher two or three times, I have totally clean hair. (the ends sometimes stay dry, sometimes get wet, but it is really the scalp that gets icky) If I am really good, I use just a half of the pint of water. To get rid of the "grey water" I soak it up in the washcloth, prop myself up in a chair in the sun and drape the cool cloth over my tired tootsies while I have a quick lunch or dinner. Ahhhh... Clean and pampered, practical evaporation bliss...
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    Thu, December 21, 2006 - 10:32 PM
    The only thing I brought too much of was, believe it or not, water, food and booze! I gave it too the clean up crew. I gave them a GALLON of Bacardi! I think it's because I ended up not drinking as much as I thought (except water). I got the name Playa Mama though because my friends that had been for 10 years prior said I was more prepared than veteran burners. When we were out on the deep playa at night on the art car, I was the one everyone came to because I had extra water, booze, snacks, tissues, cigarettes, etc. One of my best friends said "You're the best playa mama there is!" and that's where it came from.
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    Sat, December 23, 2006 - 3:17 PM
    wayy too much of:

    sunblock
    things to drink other than water - aka drink mixes (chai, gatorade etc) and alcohol
    clothes for the day ( I froze my ASS off at night most of the time)
    food (I didn't want to eat anything I brought, but those 60 cliff bars were much appreciated by camp members and strangers..)
    makeup/hair/body products.. my skin was so dusty half the time it felt too gross to put on..

    Wish I brought more :
    comfy shoes
    warm things
    gifts
    lighting

  • Re: *NOT* Usefull, A Question for Sophomore Burners

    Wed, December 27, 2006 - 9:34 PM
    I brought too much of everything. Everything.

    I read this list and all the newbie lists and listened to so many stories of "and then this one time I was really glad I had...."

    eff... it was riddiculous

    Need creates community. Part of the beauty of BM is you can walk around with your jar of peanut butter and find someone with some jelly. And a bike pump. And I think they're lover's best friend's new welding instructor over on Chance has some extra hair elastics.

    I'm not dissing self-reliance, and not suggesting you be a burden, just pointing out that need brings adventure.
    • this is way embaressing to admit, but i brought a dozen of those portable-pee-in-a-funnel-and it absorbs it things (marketed for outdoor camping) based on a thread i read back when i was a wee-virgin. i had the impression that the porta-potties would be a) really far away from my camp and b) really nasty at some point. Well both of those assumptions were way wrong. in fact, i ended up looking forward to those mini missions to the potty on my bike...which always ended up being an adventure. sure by day 5 or 6 they weren't smelling like roses ...but it's all part of playa living ya know?

      sniff, i really miss riding my pez mobile bike all over the playa. and now i have a pile of these silly things. no clue what to do with them.
      tee hee!
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    Fri, January 12, 2007 - 10:04 AM
    Just like everyone, I brought so much *food* I gave almost all of it at the end to the DWP crew and even had enough for a week in SF. I brought *no lights* though so had to put a light sabre on my bike after a nasty crash into a random guy in the dark. Next year, I'm bringing lot more lights and far far less food. Plus a dome and a generator and so.
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    Re: *NOT* Usefull, A Question for Sophomore Burners

    Fri, January 12, 2007 - 11:52 AM
    I’m an odd case, since I planned for 40 people, and brought exactly what we needed. We also brought some extra heavy tools (picks, and crowbars to loan out to people pulling or putting in stakes).

    But looking around at others, most people do bring too much water, or said differently, they don’t use that water for showers apparently. They also bring the wrong types of foods, not just too much. This is an important concept. We had a lot of vegetarians in our camp, and two full time cooks, so our needs were somewhat special. Most people should just count up the calories they need, make sure they have enough for that, and leave it there. You can live on powerbars for a week (not that I suggest that). It has a lot more to do with “what will you want” and what do you plan to share.

    The first item on your list tough should be a few rolls of duct tape…
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      Sun, January 14, 2007 - 6:22 PM
      I did ok on the Food and water thing, even though i still had to much food in the end. But next year I will make sure i bring more warm clothes that are fun for the night life. I was told to bring fun clothes for the day but I never thought to bring enough fun stuff and lights for nihgt.

      Hugs**
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        Sun, January 14, 2007 - 8:36 PM
        Like everyone else, I brought too much food, and not enough warm clothes for the few pre-dawn hours that it got fairly chilly. And the food
        I brought could have been better. Crackers and cereal are pretty portable and hold up well in the desert but it's just not that good to eat after a while. We also grossly overestimated how much gas we would use on the generator, so we could have likely brought more perishable food that required refridgeration. This year I am probably going to get some pasta and rice and soup and things that can be prepared just by boiling some water and try to eat a little better (comparatively speaking), and not assume that I will have a refridgeration unit on hand. Definitely need to work on the warmer clothes bit too, just need to find some ideas that don't involve strewing feathers and fur all over creation.
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    Thu, January 18, 2007 - 1:02 PM
    We always bring too much food, but I'm OK with this to the degree that I find it hard to eat enough out there and having lots of choices makes it more likely I will get something in my mouth.

    I brought too many clothes, but that's fine too (see above!)

    The thing we've lugged out there and back both years that have never even been looked at.......board games and books. We played two rounds of Uno last year and that was it. I'm not bringing any of that next time.
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      Wed, January 24, 2007 - 6:00 PM
      Too many clothes for night time - I used about half my costumes, and kept wearing the same faves. Wish I had more day time clothes though - so hot and dusty! Would have liked to change more. Wish I'd had work clothes too - helped build and take down a theme camp in burner clothes.

      I would definitely bring less food, too - but all the extra gave us an excuse to run around meeting people :) super ripe fruit and melting ice cream (dry ice only works for a few days, but so worth it!) can help you make life long friends.

      glow sticks! We gave tons away to people who had NO lighting on them at night. BAD IDEA! There are no street lights and if you're walking / riding in open playa at night, bikes and art cars will not see you until its almost too late. Bring a tube of glow sticks with connectors - stick them on your bike, bag, arms, feet - whereever! you won't even notice them, but you'll be glad you have them!

      If you're not camping with a theme camp, still try and do something fun with your camp - create a small theme or pick a day to do something for those around you. We were an official theme camp without a fully thought-out conception of what to offer ... but just providing a great shade structure and chill music during the day was enough for so many :) Giving out tasty extra food was fun too. We are lucky to have late-comers showing up Wed - they brought tons of fresh goods that we shared all around.
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        Wed, January 24, 2007 - 6:05 PM
        AND - waterless soap & shampoo!

        You can get them at any camping supply shop (REI) - and they are great. You can still take a "shower" (I did the sponge and bucket method to create less grey water in our evap pond), but you don't need as much water to rinse in the end. Some hard core burners will say you won't take showers, but its so hot and dusty that bathing a few quick times while out there is soooo refreshing!
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          Wed, January 24, 2007 - 9:38 PM
          Fuck that shit, I want a shower! Last year, our shower setup got over-used and so we had to expand the evap pond mid-week and supplement the pump system with a solar shower or two. But I'd gladly go through the extra hassle. I don't mind being dirty, but like you said, Lisa, it's refreshing!

          ~Trilo~
  • Add my name to the too much food list. I brought 2/3 of it back with me.

    I also packed up a stove that never saw the light of day there. You can usually get away with letting the sun warm things up for you or in my case, one of my neighbors let me use his.
    • We had too much food as well.

      I also brought some costume stuff that i didn't use
      as I ended up just mixing and matching the same costume
      favorites over and over.

      and I wish I had comfy costume boots. The ones I wore
      ended up giving me blisters the night my man locked our
      bikes together and left the key back at camp.

      And this year we will light our bikes up way better so
      we can pick them out of a mound of bikes and follow
      one another more easily.

      My favorite thing I had was my fabulous headlamp.
  • I took too much food also, but it was all stable stuff and the water I left the playa with was all drank by time I made the drive back to Macon, GA. The extra food, I gave to a friend in Kentucky who had an empty cupboard and was able to use all of it over the next several weeks.

    It is possible I could have eaten all of the food, but neighbors were cooking too much, It was their first burn and they came with RVs. I think I spent so much time just wandering about that it was about the wee hours 2 or three days later before I realized I had not eaten.

    Next time I'll bring a bigger shade structure. I brought a lot of art supply, Roll Canvas and paint, etc... - I got so caught up working with so many other peoples art projects that I didn't have a chance to use the stuff I brought. Any art supplies I bring next time will be part of a project that will already be planned ahead.