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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 5:59 AMread the comments, Im amazed at how many people stick up for Wal Mart -
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 8:59 AMWell, not everyone is convinced that Wal-Mart is as sinister as some would have us believe. Mistakes, oversights and things done out of ignorance are done every day and Wal-Mart stores are not immune. It 's one thing for stuff to happen in stores "in 5 states" (how many is that, exactly? All of the stores in those states?) and quite another for it be a purposeful, corporately-mandated policy aimed at defrauding consumers. And, believe it or not, shelf mislabeling happens in the grocery business all the time and the stores (Wal-Mart and most others) are usually happy to correct those mistakes when they are found.
But, if you want to believe that Walmart is out to rule the world and subjugate mankind, there's not a thing they (or I) can do to dissuade you, short of ceasing to exist. Good luck with that. -
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 9:59 AMsure the possibility does exist that these are simply 'mistakes', 'errors', 'oversights based on ignorance'......however, i feel i am an educated consumer and there are strong nagging doubts combined with other information, which in my mind, discredits these possibilities.
walmart isn't necessarily out to 'rule the world' but it does try to rule the retail market and has sucked up thousands of mom & pop shops across america. as if that isn't enough, they are now setting their sights on europe.
so i don't shop walmart -- instead, i try to support independent businessness in my area as much as i am able, even if it means paying a bit higher price. maybe my 2cents isn't that much in the grand scheme of things, and i alone won't make that much difference to walmart, but in my opinion independent support is better than buying into corporate greed.
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 11:30 AMWhat you term "corporate greed" is no different than independent businesses competing for market share and desiring to win. The mom and pop shops going out of business is the unfortunate result of Walmart's (and many others, by the way) business model being better, more efficient and thereby more successful.
If the price is better and it's more convenient for me to shop at any "big box" store, that's where I'm going. I have no particular allegiance to romantic notion of "mom and pop", unless they can manintain a niche service or product that I'm looking to buy.
My dad was an independent optician for 15 years until places like Pearle Vision put him out of business. Instead of ending up destitute and on the public dole, he went on to start two businesses in the human service sector and is now doing quite well. People and businesses who can no longer compete and survive in the marketplace will retool, shift their paradigm or get into something else entirely, if they're smart.
Until then, I wish them luck and congratulate you on your commitment to principal.
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 11:46 AMguess these differences are what makes the world go 'round....i am happier knowing you are so congratulatory about my personal princples. -
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 1:32 PMwell, I've just met too many people who have no personal principles that are obvious.
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Re: organic? ha!
Thu, January 25, 2007 - 1:35 PMI'm w/ August in my personal choices to support my local businesses even if it costs a little more & is less convenient than one stop shopping. Let's remember too that the quality of the products is also inferior and apparently often "mislabeled" as organic at Walmart, so it's hard to compare savings when you're not comparing apples to apples. Plus there is the fact that my local grocer who knows I am a loyal customer is much more likely to order a product for me that he currently doesn't carry if I ask him to, whereas the shift manager at Walmart would probably politely let me write down my request & wait for me to turn my back before he rolled his eyes & threw it away.
But I also see Dick's point & agree it's a good one that people & businesses must evolve & rise to meet new challenges in an ever-changing marketplace. Years ago I staged my own personal boycott of Blockbuster Video stores b/c it seemed to me that they were trying to take over the world. Now I delight in watching them squirm to stay afloat in the Netflix age ;~) -
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Re: organic? ha!
Fri, January 26, 2007 - 2:39 AMThe Blockbuster/Netflix is a great example of why I wouldn't be specifically worried about Wal-Mart. One day someone else will come along make a serious bid to overtake Wal-Mart as the world's top retailer and then everyone can be all suspicious, envious and fearful of them instead.
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