Airplane "rollercoaster"

topic posted Sun, May 7, 2006 - 2:35 PM by  offlineBryTee
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Yesterday (May 6) I got the chance to go on a flight of a different type.

It's a freight plane (Boing 727), with only 27 passenget seats in the back. The rest (about 90ft) is all open. Imagine a mid-sized plane usually 3 seats either side, but no seats in it at all. The flight plan is to fly out of San Jose, go out over the pacific to a dedicated 100 mile long area for this plane to fly from 24,000ft upto 32,000ft and back down again, repeatedly, with occasional level flights. Like a big rollercoaster.

Yes, you've guessed, to simulate zero gravity! Well... at least for about 30 seconds at a time on the "peaks" of the flight.

So we sign in, they give us a talk, and I'm all prepared with what I want to do. A list of 12 things from juggling (or at least trying to), handstands, pushups, flips, flying like superman, drinking water, blowing air inside a bubble of water (with a straw), rotating my arms to see if I can rotate my body without touching the walls, I'm sure there was more...

We're split into 3 teams of 9 people each, have a final talk, get wanded by the TSA, and go out to the plane to get some photos taken, outside the plane: www.dongrays.com/images/view.cgi I'm the 4th from the left.
We get on the plane, and so do the other 2 teams.
No windows, but it's ok as there is plenty of room inside the plane, I was in the aisle seat anyway. Take off (lots of cheers), and in flight (no movie or snacks) they take our shoes, and give us colored socks (to match our teams colors). This I guess is so we don't kick anyone!

We get to the designated place, and we have a big group photo (or 3), and that'll be sent to each of the passengers (along with all other photos and some video footage). We then go to our teams designed 30ft spot. Being in the gold team, we get the front of the plane, which is nice since you can use the wall (to the pilots) to lean on, or whatever. But to get into the rollercoaster the plane has to pull up hard and while doing that we all experience almost 2g, and it's a rule to laydown, if you didn't you'd fall much faster, twice as fast, but with acceleration I think that means 4 times the speed hitting the floor. I believe the equation of energy is ½mv² so twice the velocity means 4 times the energy. Ouch!
You could feel being twice as heavy, mostly, but then after 30 seconds or so, the crew call out "Martian 1", which means the flight is going over the top of the flight curve in such a way that we all feel about one third of gravity. I weight 180lbs, so I felt I weighed 60lb, but with the same strength!
I did pushups (and one handed), and even just standing you could feel how light you were made by the flight. But 40 seconds was all too quick, the plane was in a dive and had to pull up again, so we quickly had to lay down for the heavy part of the flight (1.8g actually).
The next 3 plane arcs were lunar gravity simulations, where everyone felt one sixth their weight. I did a handstand and pushed off to do a flip in a ball and landed on the floor on my butt, but it was ok, very light fall being only one sixth and a slow fall too. But I totally lost my sense of direction, even though I was sitting, the plane looked like it was tilting. Afterward the mechanics of the effects of less gravity in my ears was explained, as to why possible my brain thought I was tilting forwards. But one or two seconds, and my brain understood what is up again. I did some "superman" flights to the camera, so hopefully they came out well. We'll see.

Then after those 5 low gravity simulations (1 mars, 4 moon), the plame did some level flight, for about 5 minutes. We chatted, and I looked at my list to see what I was going to do, and I'd missed out juggling, but it's like being on the stage for the first time, you get "dumbstruck", so it's nice to have the zero G "coaches" to tell you what to do, otherwise you'd forget and just laugh and jump a bit, not that you're not giggling anyway! It feels like being a kid experiencing a slide or swing for the first time. Wow!

So after the 5 minutes, again we lay down as the plane pulls up, but this time over the top they fly a zero gravity simulation! You are floating, I wave to the camera, do some superman floating, but again am dumbstruck about doing any "tricks". This happens 3 times, floating around, etc. On the third of those three 0g flights, I did look down the plane to see everyone else, which probably was a mistake, as I felt myself burp, and it didn't taste nice. Once down and in level flight, I was sweating a bit, and got some water and they suggested a cloth to dry my face. So for the 0g 4, 5, and 6 flights, again, fun, but now I had water I tried to make bubbles of floating water, and squeezing the plastic bottle, I got a big bubble coming out, so released the bottle and the water went back in! So I grabbed my straw, sucked some out, and blew it into the air, but in blowing it, the water made a bubble which was floating away from me! I tried to chase it, but I was floating and my legs kicked the air and not the floor, and the water floated into the ceiling and I couldn't reach it! I was hoping to blow air into it - no chance!
On the sixth 0g arc, I thought to try the "zen" pose, and just float. They said going upside-down is great, as the ceiling becomes the floor, the floor looks like a ceiling, and everyone is upside-down and you're the only right-side up one! So I did this.
      Big mistake!
Being at the front of the plane I got to look down at everyone. It felt like looking down an elevator shaft, and seeing everyone floating upside down, right side up, towards me, away from me, etc, and I wasn't falling either. Extremely confusing! And my stomach agreed it was not right, so felt I must have eaten poison berries as that's the only way I'd be hallucinating (so thinks my caveman stomach), so I started to vomit. Not wanting to make a mess, I kept my mouth closed and waved to the coach, who had a sickbag to hand (I found in my confused state I couldn't get mine out of my pocket)! Luckily this was a few seconds from the pull out, and I sat (no I didn't lay down) being sick into this bag! Luckily the next part was a 5 minute level flight. So after having some wet cloths to cool me down, they asked if I'd be ok for the next four 0g flights? I knew I wouldn't be, so I asked to go back to my seat. Somebody else was already in their seat, perhaps not feeling so good. They gave me a big white 30 gallon trash bag, as being in 0g, a small bag isn't as effective as keeping everything in the bag. But I didn't need it. Most of my next "heaves" were dry, since I'd only eaten a little before the flight, knowing I might feel not so good.

So now I'm in my seat, I tighten my belt, and we're back to heavy G curve, which was really good, I held my hands out to feel the extra weight, I could feel the heaviness on my seat, and even my neck could feel my head twice as heavy. Back to 0g. I didn't feel so bad, so I got a bubble of water to float in front of me, and drank it with a straw, but I must have sucked too hard, or maybe I wasn't still ok, as it made me throw up again! Maybe it didn't help I could still see everyone at crazy angles in the open part of the plane?
Through 0g flights eight and nine, I just relaxed, but in doing so I could feel the plane making corrections to try to keep as good as a 0g path as they could, not only up and down, but forward and back, and side to side, to keep a perfect 0g through corrections. I could also feel the plane slowly turning through the heavy G parts too. I couldn't tell how fast it was turning, but there was some angular momentum happening that I could feel sitting, strapped tightly into the plane, unlike when lying down I couldn't feel that, just heavier.

When the last 0g (or number 10 - or arc number 15 since there were 5 low gravity flight first) was happening, I do remember, having a little "dry heave", and maybe in reaction to being so relieved when they levelled out for the last time.

Everyone came back to their seats, we got our shoes back, although I initially didn't want to lean down to tie my laces, until closer to landing, just in case. We also were given a snack too.

Off the plane, where we each got off one at a time, we had our individual photo taken with the CEO of the zero G company www.nogravity.com as we step back onto solid ground. Then back to the airport terminal, some celebration drinks and food (I just had crackers), we each got a nicely framed photo of the group (see above www.dongrays.com/images/view.cgi ) but also a certificate www.dongrays.com/images/view.cgi of completion. We also got a logo'd sports bag and a T-shirt (or two).

I chatted with the crew about what had happened with me, and apparently 40% or 50% of astronauts had experienced sickness at one time or other, but as the 0g flights are started out with low gravity flights, and are interspaced with level flight, this reduces sickness down to virtually none (ok: 2 out of 27 for our flight, but the other person may not have been actually sick - I didn't ask). If I do it again, I can get some heavy motion sickness medicine from a doctor, which would help out. I gave the flight attendent a big hug and really thanked her a lot, since she was looking after me at the end.

If someone even said I'd feel sick, would I have not done it! No way. Of course I'd do it.
Would I do it again. Yes. But only with something that might prevent the sickness. OR... I'd do things that didn't mean seeing everyone else in all directions floating and being crazy! BUT... someone said they felt bad the first time, but they got used to it, so the next time it was all ok.

It was amazing. I would tell everyone to try it, if they get the chance.

I'll post the photos once I get them.
posted by:
BryTee
SF Bay Area
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  • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

    Thu, May 11, 2006 - 8:41 AM
    Bryan, I can't help but wonder what the trajectory of the plane must be to provide the 0 gravity experience. I never took calculus...is it calculus that would describe the path that the plane must take to maintain the zero gravity?
    I understand that the object is to prvide an environment where the pople inside are perpetually flaling ? Am I right? but then it is different from a simple free fall, isn 't it. I did a few static line parachute jumps...many years ago.... and then of course there is regular flight in lucid dreams. Have you ever had a lucid dream?
  • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

    Thu, May 11, 2006 - 8:48 AM
    Well I went to the Zero Gravity site and they had a diagram of the trajectory and I understand the process slightly better now....but stilll not at ll completely. Why do you get zero gravityon the upward trajectory? I'll have to mull it over....or find a really articulate physicist to explain it to me, I suppose.
    • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

      Thu, May 11, 2006 - 9:57 AM
      The curve is simple, it's called a parabola. Imagine throwing a ball into the air at an angle, that's the path of the plane.

      Realize that while the ball is up there doing its parabolic curve, it's falling *with* gravity, so it actually feels 0g while it's flying (ignoring all the wind around it), and so all the passengers in the plane flying through the air, just like the ball, all feel no gravity too. The plane around us stops the rush of the air, and allows us to go up again for more experiences. If there were no air (and we were all in space suits) we'd feel 0g while skydiving, being shot from a cannon, falling off a cliff, etc, but the wind slows our fall, and we don't keep up with the pull of gravity, so it's not 0g.

      You can feel 0g in your backyard! Get on a swing, and swing BIG. At the top of the swing cycle you experience 0g, and can especially feel it if you stand up. I used to do this as a kid - loved it! It's only for ½ second, but it still is 0g.
      • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

        Thu, May 11, 2006 - 11:11 AM
        : ) thanks ...I sort of get it. I guess the interplay between gravity and the "rush of air" and the fact that a free fall is not on a parabolic trajectory is why you do not feel zero gravity when "free-falling" from a jump out of a plane. Hmm the ball is moving upwards from the force of the throw AND it is being pulled downwards by the force of gravity... so at some point in the trajectoryupward the pull of gravity is equivalent to the momentum upward and therefor cancells each other out ... and so eureka! = Zero gravity. Does that make sense or am complicating the question? I don't know if you get what I'm hypotesizing.. I should take physics 101 maybe.
        • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

          Thu, May 11, 2006 - 2:16 PM
          Mostly.
          But the moment you let go of the ball, gravity is the only force acting on it, it is in free fall (or 0g).

          You can simply all of this by not having any horizonal motion, so the parabolic arc becomes a simple up and down movement.
          To simplify it further, don't bother with the throwing up of the ball, just stand on a high place. A cliff, a building, even just from arms height, and let the ball go (to save any confusion about the force of throwing it). As it falls it is keeping up with the pull of gravity.

          Imagine you are inside the ball as it falls, and you decide to squeeze a bottle of water to make a bubble of water in front of you. That bubble of water also is falling with gravity, and falls at the same speed as you, so it floats in front of you, exactly like 0g. OK, this is as long as the ball keeps up with the pull of gravity and is not slowed down by air resistance (or hitting the ground).

          Actually, the ball can now be replaced by the plane, and the plane has an engine to overcome air resistance, and will pull up at the end of the 0g experience, which is comforting.

          The crew tell me that on a plane now when there's turbulance they feel little mini-but not quite 0g experiences!
          • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

            Thu, May 11, 2006 - 3:53 PM
            t'ank you very much. i'll have to mull the whole matter over a bit...it's an interesting topic to ponder. I have rather vivid lucid and non-lucid dreams where I am flying and it is a truly exhilarating experience and I do not have to obey any of the laws of physics ( but have never dreamt of water droplets falling or flying at the same pace as my motion....just too scientific for the pure joy of the dream). Thank you for describing your flight in such detail. As I already said, I find the topic quite interesting....probably what makes people delve into the world of science and / or science fiction.....I am mostly thinking about how the plane is moving as opposed to the vertical motion of the ball.....sort of thinkiing of what fraction of time you get the full zero g effect and what time is in preparation for the effect.. thank you for your explanation.. I sort of get it. : ) and certainly more than I did. It's a a little acrobatics for the brain. To get the zero g, the plane must move down along with the gravitational pull, right? The arc must be somewhat precisie it seems to me or you would go slamming into the floor...it seems to me ...while perhaps the converse is not so important to be gradual...or maybe you just get yourself back in your seat...I don't know...it's a bit of a stretch for me to visualize. but its cool nonetheless.
            • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

              Fri, May 12, 2006 - 4:50 AM
              Skylar said
              "But to get into the rollercoaster the plane has to pull up hard and while doing that we all experience almost 2g, and it's a rule to laydown, if you didn't you'd fall much faster, twice as fast, but with acceleration I think that means 4 times the speed hitting the floor. I believe the equation of energy is ½mv² so twice the velocity means 4 times the energy. Ouch! "

              Actually its twice the energy and root two the velocity. One only needs to use the potential energy formula of mgh, to see that this is the case. But it mat still be Ouch!

              Karl
              • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

                Fri, May 12, 2006 - 10:15 AM
                Hiya Karl,
                Aaaaah, it is a ll clear now...the potential energy formula of mgh..how could I have forgotten that : ) Ha! I never took a physics class or even a chemistry class... I'm quite ashamed to admit. I now find science very interesting but doubt I have the discipline to truly study it.
                Thanks for reiterating Bryan's account of the sharp pull upwards by the plane.
  • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

    Thu, May 25, 2006 - 11:19 PM
    The photos came through (on CD) today, I need to find the ones of me and post them...
    The DVD (video) was ok, but it revealed that the 0g time was only about 15-18 seconds, no wonder it felt so short.
    I also noticed that I did manage to play with one of my juggling balls while standing up, which I'd forgotten about.
    They also cut out the non less gravity and laying down parts of the DVD, so my message to the kids was lost. :-(

    I found something I'd have loved to try: www.youtube.com/watch
    where they had a CD player in zero gravity, and it keeps its angle (like any gyroscope does), an interesting watch.
    There is also (on youtube) a whole bunch of water (and balloon) experiements, if you search for "zero gravity".
    • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

      Fri, May 26, 2006 - 3:39 AM
      There are 4 photos from the trip uploaded to the photo section of this tribe, or you can view all the ones they took of me at: www.dongrays.com/images/view.cgi
      (click to zoom in)
      • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

        Mon, June 5, 2006 - 4:29 PM
        Thank you for the link to the photos in zero G. I must say you look pretty good (not a hair out of place) for someone who was nauseated. I checked out the Tube video of the cd player and now need to investigate the topic of a gyroscope a bit more...shall look at wkipedia's explanation of weightlessness also. I gather that the point of the video was showing how with each well -placed piece the structure became more stable or at least moved in a more consistent manner that would be more comfortable to any person inside....I gether they are thinking of launching mini-satellites to protect the operation from impacts with meteorites...so only some of the components would be damaged and not the whole unit. This is of course unrelated to Zero G but the idea kind of intrigued me for some reason. I would imagine anyone who was launching a satellite would need to be entirely cognizant of thepaths of all other satellites in order to avoid launvhing it into the path of another satellite already in orbit. Anyway, Thanks for the interesting topic.
        • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

          Fri, November 24, 2006 - 2:41 AM
          Whow! This is something I think I'd LOVE to try. Sooo expensive though! Holy cow. I couldn't just leave the debt on my credit cards to go do this one- but HOLY COW it looks like fun!

          Wow.
          And SICK?! I'd be throwing up all over the place! (I think, but I am probably right.) The "up / down / up / down" feeling would do it. Or should I say the "light / heavy / light / heavy " .
          Whatever. It would all make me sick.

          AWESOME!
          I am REALLY excited about this!
          Good for frackin, YOU Bry! What an expereince of a lifetime !

          Wow.
    • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

      Fri, December 1, 2006 - 3:32 PM
      Some cool zero gravity experiments:
      • waves through a water bubble
      • air bubbles in a water bubble
      • an antacid tablet in a water bubble

      Enjoy:
            www.youtube.com/watch
      • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

        Tue, January 23, 2007 - 5:49 PM
        Oh - I'd want to know about painting! Now... hmmmm.......

        would it dry?
        would it flatten on the more 'intense' gravity?
        could you stack in straight off the canvas a foot?

        Now THAT would be cool.

        (((okay - I'll go check out the utube, now.....)))
        • Re: Airplane "rollercoaster"

          Tue, January 23, 2007 - 6:04 PM
          I believe paint dries due to interacting with air, there is still air in zero G, but to modify your question, would paint dry in space?
          On "intense gravity", you mean the 2G pull outs? I'd imagine yes, it would flatten out, but consider paint on the ceiling, it is experiencing negative G, pulling it OFF the ceiling, but it seems to do just fine there, so I don't think it'd be noticable.

          Now as to trying to control a brush while floating, that'd be a feat! Also if you had a paint jar open in zero G, I think it'd go everywhere, perhaps!

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