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What is your worthless (yet entertaining to ponder) prediction of the effect on Burning Man of a shrunken population.
I'm going to guess that this year will be more like 2005 or 2004. The recession having weeded out many who don't see Burning Man as a vital chance for self expression.
When I was employed I thought last year was my last year. Then I became unemployed and I realized I needed Burning Man. I needed it because I needed that fantastic world away from the default world. I need to be rejuvenated. In order to go again though I would have to transform myself. I would have to shed my former skin and become something new and different.
I've got a job again now. But I got a job that is going to give me the flexibility I need to make this transformation.
I'm going to guess that this year will be more like 2005 or 2004. The recession having weeded out many who don't see Burning Man as a vital chance for self expression.
When I was employed I thought last year was my last year. Then I became unemployed and I realized I needed Burning Man. I needed it because I needed that fantastic world away from the default world. I need to be rejuvenated. In order to go again though I would have to transform myself. I would have to shed my former skin and become something new and different.
I've got a job again now. But I got a job that is going to give me the flexibility I need to make this transformation.
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, April 24, 2009 - 10:15 AMP.S. the shrinking population is based on Rhino's second hand knowledge of the estimates of 40k population this year. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, April 24, 2009 - 12:15 PMless is more
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, April 24, 2009 - 12:17 PM"shrinking population is based on Rhino's second hand knowledge of the estimates of 40k population this year."
A better term might be 'guesstimate', or even more appropriately, 'wild-assed guess'. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, April 24, 2009 - 2:57 PMwild ass is in season yes? I don't think you have to get a game license for it either.
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 8:19 AMI am not so sure that the population will be noticeably smaller this year. The website says the first 3 tiers are sold out which means 27,000 tickets sold. From up here we have a large number of newbies coming this year and some veterans who have not been in the past few years going this year. I think if we hit 40,000 we will not see a huge difference from the 50,000. Where as you would notice 5,000 compared to 10,000.
I think the economy might actually prevent some people who just treat this as a week to drink and do alternative substances to stay home but might counter with more people who feel the need to go who want to experience the community value and do as i have heard a media fast. Stepping out of the consumer reality. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 9:37 AM20% is a big difference. 36k was the population in 2004, and the city seemed so much smaller (quality over quantity in this case.) -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 7:45 PMYeah, plus a lot of people buy them as soon as they go on sale with the intent of reselling them. There could be a real flood of cheap tix in August. I bought a ticket last year that was never used.
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 2:51 PMAs I read it, the first three tiers are 20,000 tickets.
news.cnet.com/8301-10784_...28466-7.html
And now, three months after your posting, we still have not sold out the 9,000 tickets in the fourth tier. In fact, I just noticed that the ticket page was updated and they are returning to ticket sales at the gate this year.
According to the official populations counts (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burn...the_event) we had nearly 50,000 last year. Doesn't look like that is going to happen. With the deadline for mail order tickets coming in a week and less than 29,000 tickets sold, I would predict that total pop will be around 34,000, give or take 1k.
But, with the city shrinking back down to 2008 footprint, I think the main places you notice the dropped crowd will be the 2:00/10:00 sound camps and the crowd at the actual Burn. But it will be quite noticeable there.
I wonder if the citation/arrest rate will drop again. We had a big drop last year, even though the population went up. but I'm concerned that the people that go this year will lean toward the well-paid and entitled, instead of the serious participant. To me, that spells more stupidity and more obvious lawbreaking. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Thu, July 23, 2009 - 9:50 PMThat cnn story is from 2006, BM says 9000 per tier this year, so under 36000 have been sold as of now. If ticket sales end up in the low 40s with a 2007 site size, it won't seem much different.
Is everyone that can rub a few C-notes together an "entitled" asshole?
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Mon, April 27, 2009 - 8:28 PMso are you going as a couch? or as Dr.. shrink...? -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 12:26 PMHaha, no, but I did come up with an concept for a theme camp that revolves around Cloud people, inflatable furniture would be part of that concept. I'd of course cover over the furniture and make it look cloud like. An entire cloud camp full of soft things to touch, sit on, lay on.
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Tue, April 28, 2009 - 10:15 PMuse solar material that will glow in the dark woot!
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Fri, May 8, 2009 - 11:13 PMNobody is going to Burning Man this year. I've checked. Even Larry is gonna go to Cozumel instead. He'll probably burn a pinata. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Sat, May 9, 2009 - 1:23 AMI got a couple unused tickets to last years event if anyones interested, they're all access, I will throw in the pyro permits and pool passes for nuthin -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Tue, May 12, 2009 - 6:00 PMI think a shrinking population is a sign of sustainability. I would be worried if it shrank too much. 04 was my first year. I thought 40,000 was very impressive and just about right. It's just a plateau though. More spikes and dips to come, I bet. -
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Tue, July 28, 2009 - 11:05 AM2004 was my first year too. I believe the pop that year was 32k
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Sun, July 26, 2009 - 5:06 PMFewer participants and (likely) more cops, as I can't imagine the downturn has helped state and local coffers in Nevada very much.
<< If ticket sales end up in the low 40s with a 2007 site size, it won't seem much different. >>
That makes sense. If they're going back to gate sales this year, then expect the Friday influx of frat boys and no-necks to arrive on schedule.
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Re: Your worthless prediction on the effect of a shrinking BM population.
Mon, July 27, 2009 - 1:53 PM
so....THIS is why they've opened ticket sales at the gate again...
less is more....i liked it back in 2000...
