After talking to several people and a couple of BM Rangers (or Ranger volunteers) I am finally going to go to BM 2008. I haven’t gone before due to medical condition.
Here’s my question. When I buy my BM tickets, is it possible to request a space near one of the medical tents (not center camp – never quiet from what I hear).
Here’s my question. When I buy my BM tickets, is it possible to request a space near one of the medical tents (not center camp – never quiet from what I hear).
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 2:37 PMi would give up on the quiet thing all together....get good earplugs....try them out before hand.
the medical tents are at 3, 6 and 9 o'clock plazas.
I dont think you are able to request a camping spot. the really quiet places, will be far from medical services....
it may be easier to find a medic who is willing to camp near you..
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, October 24, 2007 - 7:36 PMWhat is your medical condition - if it's ok to ask - do you need to be REALLY close to a medic tent for any reason?
Are you looking for quiet - or - proximity to the medic tent?
The Burning Man folks don't "issue" spaces per se, except for placing registered theme camps. If you are going as an individual or with a small group of friends and NOT with a registered theme camp, you park your buns wherever the hell you want (except in the registered theme camp areas). You don't have to request a space.
If you NEED to be camped close to the Center Camp medic tent, you might want to connect up with your ranger friends and find out how to go about that. ALTHOUGH - the reality is that unless you are going to sit in your camp all day and night, every day and night, you will most likely not be by the medic tent most of the time anyway. You will be out cruising the playa and having a great time, and you can go to the nearest medic tent if the need arises.
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Thu, October 25, 2007 - 1:49 PMI’m chronic asthmatic borderline COPD. A BM Ranger told me that I should camp near a med tent in addition to all the other safety precautions (med bracelet, introducing myself to them so that know me in case anything happens ect…) I’ve heard mixed stories. Some say it’s quiet in the back and others say there aren’t any quiet spots… So I’m going more for proximity to a med camp but not center camp.
I definitely plan on traveling and will probably register one of the small electric scooters to get around and to use in case of emergencies if I’m far out. I believe I’ll be going wit a group (but not a theme camp) and we’ll be going Monday before the Burn so I’ll try to get a spot not too far off but within reason.
Thanks all,
SNT
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Tue, October 30, 2007 - 1:45 PMI've talked to people who say that their conditions got better.
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, October 31, 2007 - 11:25 PMArriving on monday, you'd still have some options to camp at least a straight line with one of the med tents. Then again their locations are intended to minimize the distance anyone is from at least one anyhow. When camp placements are announced before the event, you might also want to see if the theme camps nearest tents and your interests have room for you
In general 2, 10, and the Esplanade are the loudest, followed by the plazas. The back side of center camp is not as loud as you might think, I've been within a block or two of 6:OO and C all three years and it's more of a gentle thump-thump background noise late at night, except for the occasional passing mutant vehicle.
If you register a scooter think ahead about how to charge it. Hot Wheels Camp may be able to help since its a medical need. -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Sun, November 11, 2007 - 12:53 PMI found that it's a LITTLE LESS dusty if you camp off the streets more to the middle between the streets.
It's harder to find your tent at night, but being surrounded by other tents makes for a better wind block which cuts down on the dust a little. Note: I said a little.
Bottom line... the will always be the playa dust to deal with... but if you are camped on the street and an art car or an electric EMS cart goes by or someone on a fast moving scooter, you will be more exposed to the dust then if you were a couple of tents "in".
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Mon, November 19, 2007 - 10:52 PMThe back side of Center Camp is indeed quiet. I camp at BMIR next to Playa Info and it's very peaceful and somewhat deserted late at night compared to other areas of the city.
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COPD
Tue, February 12, 2008 - 11:13 AMHey Sierra, I'm a paramedic so your ? caught my eye. The medic alert bracelet is def a good idea. Also keep with you a list of your demographics, history, meds and allergies. Let people around you know whats up with your med situation. Any allergies to foods? Make sure you have a current epi-pen or two, and make sure those around you know how, and WHEN to use it. (Dude, I know how we can wake her up :) Also consider bringing liquid benadryl if you have food allergies. A check up with your Dr prior to going to advise where your going and any special considerations to take etc. Do you use home O2? Make appropriate adaptations for that if you do. Def take a mask, i.e. hepa style for the dust. Just a cpl ideas, fwiw. -
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Re: COPD
Tue, February 12, 2008 - 2:21 PM
About 10 years ago, a friend died of a heart attack while jogging... it was 24 hours before anyone found his body in the morgue because he went running without any ID on him.
Since then, I've written on the inside of my playa sneakers my name and "in case of emergency info".
It's a good tip for anyone out on the playa to carry some kind of emergency info on them.... no matter what their health situation.
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Re: COPD
Tue, February 12, 2008 - 3:02 PMdid you friend die on the playa?
a good idea even when not on the playa.... -
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 4:55 PM"die on the playa"
No... he died in Manhattan late one night.
But I've seen people "jogging" on the playa... CRAZY! -
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Tue, February 12, 2008 - 10:46 PMthe first time i was out there in 96 i had running shoes and my friend had to talk me out of wanting to just run off into the night. glad he did, someone got lost out there and fried her brain that year....it was ..well, not good.
everyone take care of yourselves and then each other. we can do anything!
i am getting home sick......
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Mon, February 18, 2008 - 8:05 PMWell just to add to your information overload, I camped at 6:30 and Esturary, about a 3 minute walk from Center Camp and the Medical tents. It was never totally quite. You'll want good ear plugs. We were in an RV with the A/C running and night and could still hear dance music, propane explosions, etc. pretty much all night. They weren't extremely loud but you could here them all night. -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Tue, February 19, 2008 - 9:10 PMYup and they sounded beautiful -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 10:01 AMYikes, I hope my previous post didn't come across as criticism! I agree with you comp[letely. It's all part of the joy of the Burning Man experience. I was just trying to give a factual answer to the posted question.
See you back home at BRC . . . -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 11:04 AM<<Yikes, I hope my previous post didn't come across as criticism! I agree with you comp[letely. It's all part of the joy of the Burning Man experience. I was just trying to give a factual answer to the posted question. >>
i totally dont think so.,...you just made some one home sick!!! it made me home sick to read the reply....
See you at home!!!!
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:59 PMIf you use a good particulate respirator you will reduce irritation to your bronchial tubes, and it might make your experience more comfortable. If your condition is as serious as that, I would not go with one of the little painters masks like most folks do. You can get a good respirator online for a reasonable price. Just do a search on Yahoo or Google. A good pair of earplugs will ensure a good sleep. At least at night when it's cool.
You'll have a great time!
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Thu, February 7, 2008 - 6:02 PMSierra, as stated in these other responses, there are med tents at the 3 and 9 o-clock plazas. they are not stocked like the center camp med station, but are staffed 24 hours a day with immediate first aid and transport to center camp. Unfortunately none of these locations are what could be called quiet. the only quiet spot at Black Rock City is out in walk-in camp which is about as far as you can get from a med tent. Walk-in is approximately between 3 and 5 o-clock outside the last ring road around the city, towards the airport. My best suggestion is to get to the event early on monday and stake out a spot near one of the plaza med stations, you'll be near the porta potties and no more than 3 blocks from the esplanade , so you won't be far from the action. If you have a scooter and can get the medical exemption for using it, then bring it. everywhere is a long long walk and you'll appreciate having it , even if you camp close. Remember you have to have a way to keep it charged and running out there. the playa has a way of destroying things. Even if you never need the medical help, just being more confidant will make the whole week more comfortable for you. -
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Fri, February 8, 2008 - 4:39 PMAlso, please obey the speed limits....nothing says participation like someone who knows and lives by the rules!!!
or it is nice when people using scooters are not dusting you while you breathe the gas fumes -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 13, 2008 - 12:08 PM"nothing says participation like someone who knows and lives by the rules!!! "
aw, that's heart warming. ;)
I always express that sentiment, but I'm rarely met with thumbs up for it. :)
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 13, 2008 - 9:00 AMas a burner who also has medical issues, which have also prevented me from going to BM at times, here's my advice:
I wouldn't rely on the med tents, nor camping near them. They're pretty much there for an absolute unmanageable emergency. Instead, assume you (and/or your budy) will need to take care of yourself without their help. I think relying on them, assuming you'll be able to get there if needed, assuming they'll take care of everything if you have an attack, assuming they'll have what's needed and won't be swamped with some other emergency, is a bad idea. Not that the med staff is untrained or unreliable, but that relying on the minimal infrastructure is both risky and against the princples of BM.
Take everything with you that you need to manage the most extreme asthma attack, and *very important* work on a buddy system. You'll need someone to look after you if you become unable to take care of yourself (due to passing out, shock, being unable to communicate, panic, etc.). I'd suggest camping with a trusted friend, and make sure they are briefed on what to do. Tell them how you react under stress, what an attack looks like, what you need when it happens, what triggers it, etc. both emotionally and medically.
If you can't bring a familiar friend you have several options. One, you now have about 8 months to find one. ;) Two, you can make sure you carry important info and meds with you at all times. You may want to make a small index card with important info and laminate it. You can then hand out that card to the person you're with should you become ill. Only a true jackass won't help. Three, you can inform your camp buddies and anyone you're hanging with for the day/night of your condition and give them brief info on warning signs and how to help.
If you're camping with a theme camp I'd suggest notifiying the camp leader of your condition so s/he is aware of what's happening should you have an attack. Having people look out for your means someone can check in with you now and then to see how you're doing. This is basic community courtesy that's done even for people who don't have a condition. Asking another burner if they've had water recently, or commenting that they look like they should sit in the shade for a few minutes should be standard practice regardless of one's health issues because the environment can be so harsh there. :)
Overall, I'd recommend thinking in terms of prevention. It's so much cheaper and easier to prevent an attack or emergency than it is to treat one once it's happened. Note what kinds of things weaken your body, what kinds of things stress you most. Not just your medical issues, but your whole self: mentally, emotionally, physically. And work on how to monitor and moderate them. It won't do you any good to be monitoring you specific conditio if you then run around dehydrated, overstimulated, strung out and stressed.
Keep in mind that if an official determines you need hospital care, you'll be transported out of the event, as is, at your expense. And from what I've been told, that's great expense. The nearest hospitals are not "near". Rather than risk that I think it's much better to bring everything you'll need to maintain and treat your health. embrace Radical Self Reliance to it's fullest in this case. :) I also think that will help assuage any fear, by makng you feel prepared and able. -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 13, 2008 - 5:12 PMI was going through this thread again and remembered what we did for my older boy when we traveled remotely. We got him a battery powered nebulizer so he could do breathing treatments as needed in the bush. His brand ran on aa batteries and also on ac. I just googled battery powered nebulizers and a bunch of diff. kinds popped up. His was covered by insurance. An idea worth looking into.
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 13, 2008 - 9:56 PMHas anybody mentioned to you that some burners tend to get Playa Boogers?
lol
For some the crusty boogers can be a serious downer. Really, there's nothing like waking up and finding your nasal passages partially blocked.
Anyway a Black Rock ranger suggested we could minimize nasal problems by applying our favorite lip balm directly into our nostrils. Since my favorite is Carmex, I find the menthol-fragranced balm brings a welcome tingling to the cilia in my nose. The balm doesn't stop boogers from forming. But it does alleviate the unpleasantness of them (and somewhat keeps the nostrils moistened). -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Thu, February 14, 2008 - 8:04 AMBabes,
saline spray is your friend. :) don't leave home without it. also, a dust mask helps cut down on the playa boogers.
oh, and any kind of menthol type lip balm can actually dry you out more because the menthol agent is harsh on the skin, causing you to need to apply more, causing you to dry out more, etc. Particularly on sensitive membranes and tissues like nasal passages. You might find you get less playa boogers if you use plain lip balm or petroleum jelly (like vaseline). There's probably a non-petroleum option for folks who want something more herbal. -
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Thu, February 14, 2008 - 11:51 PMWhy, thank you, Ms. D!
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Sat, February 16, 2008 - 6:10 PMyou're welcome. :D yeah, just spray a little before bed and when you get up. and sometimes in the middle of the day if it's been particularly dusty. helps a lot. I usually have to blow my nose after spraying, so keep some tissues handy. :)
oh! that reminds me, check out Bare's personal care thread on 2008 Virgins. Probably some other helpful stuff there too. :)
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Wed, February 20, 2008 - 3:52 PMother than the dust storms there aren't many other allergens , other than those carried by fellow burners, that would bother an asthmatic.
If I might suggest.. an O2 bottle. a good respirator will help a lot; but if we have another 11 hour white out... you may need some of the benefits of O2's fresh air. not sure of the laws there.. in most states your doctor can write you a script for an oxygen bottle.
John ~ Camp Big Puffy Yellow
former EMT/Firefighter Baltimore, MD
living the life of luxury in New Orleans now...
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Re: First trip to BM (2008)
Fri, February 22, 2008 - 5:10 PMYes angelicfriend he sure did!
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