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What are some of your ideas for raising an air mattress above the ground for air flow for both coolness and warmth? I heard a good way is to make a raised platform with milk crates and a plywood base. Has anyone tried this before and did it work for you? My biggest concern is that the plywood would dip in the middle or put a splinter into the mattress. Any ideas would be appreciated.
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 7:39 PMPut a blanket under the mattress for warmth at night and I am not sure about raised, but doesn't heat rise? I know having a shade structure works wonders for cooling during the day. I bought one this year after my friend had hers out last year. It was like air conditioning!
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 8:47 PMA plywood platform supported by milk crates would work to raise the air mattress. You'll need about 9 crates to have one in each corner, a crate at the center of each edge, and one or two beneath the center to keep things flat. Some flattened carton boxes atop the plywood should protect the mattress from rough spots.
Several planks would serve the same as a large plywood sheet, and be easier to transport.
If transporting equipment is not an issue, then warehouse pallets made of hardwood are often available free and can serve without the crates. Nail in small planks beforehand to fill top surface spaces.
If you were to lay a mattress right on the ground, that spot underneath would remain cool as the sun never would go there. In fact, a shaded place on the ground continuously covered over would act as a heat sink and actually draw warmth from the mattress. About maintaining warmth, some additional insulation between mattress and ground would keep temps even.
Your best and easiest way to keep cool, and warm, and reduce the amount of optional equipment, and make things way easier for the same/better result, would be to put a groundcloth first, and then a roll of 1/2 inch foam insulation over ir, and then place the inflated mattress over that.
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 10:11 PMThermodynamically speaking, I don't see that you'll have ANY noticable heating or cooling benefit from raising your mattress.
The playa surface beneath your tent (and mattress) isn't going to appreciably change temperature between day and night because the sun and the night air will not be working upon it directly.
It IS however nicer to climb down out of bed than it is to climb up out of bed.
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 7:54 AMThermodynamically?
Thermodynamically, a raised mattress, air between it and the floor, would be warmer at night than a mattress laid direct to the floor.
But thermodynamically, it would not be cooler daytimes to have it raised up. And we're talking very small differences here of temperatures.
The setup should be whatever makes the lady feel comfortable from among all of the options available. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 8:57 AMI have an air mattress that is about a yard high all by itself, you should try to find one of those. -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 6:09 PMThis has been my favorite purchase for the playa and for houseguests.
(If the link doesn't work google Cabela's folding air bed frame. )
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Fri, June 19, 2009 - 5:19 AMSearch Cabela's for air bed frame, they have the air mattress bed frame in queen size in their bargain bin. (pretty cheap too)
Here is an amazingly long link right to it (hopefully)
www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en...ks/link.jsp
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Sun, June 14, 2009 - 3:37 PM"a raised mattress, air between it and the floor, would be warmer at night than a mattress laid direct to the floor."
Ah, but how about a raised "air mattress?" Any benefit there?
It's an "Air" mattress. It is it's own insulation : ).
Sas
thermodynamically
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 8:27 PMThanks everyone for the tips! I am feeling much more confident about choosing my bed set up. I am going to be on the playa for 10 nights, so a nice bed set up will be a huge plus. In addition to not freezing at night, I am hoping to create a bit of home away from home, so the raised bed will help with this. I am also bring an old rug for the floor of my springbar tent, so hopefully I will feel right at home. What are some of your experiences with the double height air mattresses? I have read some posts that say that they sag overnight. Have any of you run into this? -
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Sat, June 13, 2009 - 8:34 PMheya...
brought the double-high air matresses two years to the playa...
first year... great...
second year, popped first night, leaving me on the ground for a week...
I am gonna go with the queen sized bed frame, and a fold out foam mattress this year....
guaranteed to work... he he...
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Sun, June 14, 2009 - 10:18 AMfur watt's worth: I use a mattress on the floor of a van, less organic than tent and plywood-milkcrate-platform, but remarkably dust resistant, wind-and-rain-proof. and a small carpet outside the door to wipe the shoes, etc. -
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Sun, June 14, 2009 - 1:22 PMI've been using a foam slab laid to the bed of my pickup, and a sleeping bag on top of that ---- works good for me.
---with a mexican blanket on top of the foam to make it look pretty.
What could be better?
Maybe a futon, but then what I have is something like a redneck Futon.
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Sun, June 14, 2009 - 3:40 PMActually, I've seen a cool solution for raising mattresses in use on the playa. It's of the same contruction as all those folding camp chairs we're so familiar with only when this is unfolded (erected) it yields a flat surface 2 feet off the ground for mattresses to lay on.
Sas
heh heh, erected
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Mon, June 15, 2009 - 7:36 AMI use memory foam mattress UNDER an inflatable.
I think this year I might flip it the other way... inflatable under, foam on top... any thoughts? -
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Mon, June 15, 2009 - 9:08 PMHeretic!
Sas : )
the one true configuration
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Wed, June 17, 2009 - 9:40 AMI've done this the past few years, works great. If the air mattress fails, you still have foam, and it keeps the warmth at night.
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Mon, June 15, 2009 - 9:09 AMa pretty gal like you could probably just take your pick of the dusty playa boys or girls,
and stack'em up like firewoood, and plop your air mattress on them!
this method will save you transportation of milk crates & plywood.
(it also sound like too much work!)
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Mon, June 15, 2009 - 8:02 PMhahaha! LOL! That is the best idea yet! Thanks for the smile, I needed it. Dusty playa boys sound great about now. -
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Tue, June 16, 2009 - 2:14 PMI also have a queen air mattress with frame like the one linked to from Cabela's, I enjoy it. Adds room, can stick stuff underneath it, too.
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 4:01 PMso, what's the verdict?
stacked playa beauties,or????
tic! toc!
40days to go, before we hit the BRC!!! (but who's counting???)
cheers,
piko!
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 11:44 AMIf all you are trying to do is insulate your mattress from the floor, place a mylar space blanket under your air mattress, and that should do the trick. -
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 8:25 PMCheck this out! this is what I'm making and taking to put my air mattress on. It uses two pieces of plywood and it transports flat. You slot the pieces together when you get there and if you want to you can burn it before you leave.
playatech.com/index.php
One of my roommates made one and it only took him about a half hour to make the cuts. The plans cost $5.
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 11:32 PMSo I tested my double height self inflating air mattress on the playa during the 4th of July and it worked really well. It did not deflate over night or sag like I was worried about and I did not freeze either. It was great the first night and I was very comfortable. However, I didn't sleep on it for the two following nights and I retreated to the RV trailer that was in our camp. It wasn't the mattresses fault as I couldn't handle the early morning sun that made my "springbar canvas" tent glow like the sun itself at 6:30 am. What did I learn? The mattress set up will work just fine, but I need to do something about the early morning sun. What have I done? I have ordered 70% aluminet to put 8 inches over the top of the tent and I am going to affix black out energy saver curtains (Target has them on sale) to the inside on the ceiling of the tent. All of this should at least allow me to sleep until 8:30 before my tent turns into a sauna. If this still does not work, I will get to see 10 beautiful sunrises over the playa, which is not such a bad thing after all :)