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Ok so I'm kinda over the generator for my camp. I'm sick of neighbors complaining about the noise, I'm sick of all the gasoline, and I want to possibly simplify, plus it would be kinda green of me, which means I can be a dick to everyone that has a generator *joke*.
So my question (since I know nothing about it) is, how do I do it? How much would it cost?
I'm with a pretty small camp, and all I would only need it for is a stereo and some lights pretty much. Maybe a few other miscellaneous things. so I wouldn't need that much power. One thing I would like to specify is I need power at night and not just when the sun is up.
Thanks ahead of time.
So my question (since I know nothing about it) is, how do I do it? How much would it cost?
I'm with a pretty small camp, and all I would only need it for is a stereo and some lights pretty much. Maybe a few other miscellaneous things. so I wouldn't need that much power. One thing I would like to specify is I need power at night and not just when the sun is up.
Thanks ahead of time.
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 4:12 PMI had good results this year with a couple 70-watt solar panels I found on www.Costco.com. They came in a kit which included a charge controller to connect to my truck battery. I mounted them on the roof, angled to face the sun. They kept my battery charged for the week, running a small refrigerator. Definitely greener and friendlier than a gen-set.
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Mon, December 15, 2008 - 6:04 PMSDR3k has links and solar power info:
people.tribe.net/5969572e-...be3d08f572
Solar and LED christmas lights are the way to go for camp lighting. A single deep cycle marine / rv battery, charge controller, 60 watt panel, 200 watt inverter and 50 feet of LED lighting would be a good start.
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 8:15 PMHi Klone
Not sure if you're familiar with the Alternative Energy Zone and the are a great resource on solar power and the set-ups that work on the playa their website is www.ae-zone.org/
They site has a lot of information that might be of some help.
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Tue, December 16, 2008 - 9:53 PMOk no more drinking and trying to post tidbits of information. The AEZ is a great playa camp and their website really is a great resource, so you might want to check them out. -
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Thu, December 18, 2008 - 10:42 PM>>Ok no more drinking and trying to post tidbits of information.<<
Wat?! Thaz silly talk. Evrybuddy no's that tha imjesting of tastie adult beveragdes inhances the floe of imformaschion. An lez knot 4get.............whut wour we tawking bout?
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 1:11 PMI camped in the AEZ in 07 and it was GREAT! no generator noise.....
I'm going to try to cam their again in 09.
They have a lot of helpful info as Step said check them out. -
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Fri, December 19, 2008 - 1:13 PMsolar ovens....check them out -
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Thu, December 25, 2008 - 2:23 PMI've been interested in them before I got into the burn. A couple camped by us tried one out, she didn't have a huge amount of luck, but I was intrigued by her attempt, and to check one out in action. I would like to try one out in 09 myself. Does anybody have any practical experience with them, in regards to what worked and what didn't?
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Wed, December 17, 2008 - 11:35 AMPlease, don't burn the nest. ;-)
This combo looks very similar to what I've been using the past couple years on the playa, but you can do better on the cost. The battery/inverter power pack in the photo looks like the Xantrex 400, and an Amazon.com search shows they're available for about $100. Similarly for the solar panel... check Amazon for the Coleman or Sunforce panels and you can get 15 watts for around $100, so your total cost for this entry-level setup should be around $200. You'll probably need to make a connector to hook the solar panel output to the battery pack, but that's pretty easy of you can handle a soldering iron.
When I'm not at Burning Man, this setup doubles as part of my home emergency kit in case of an earthquake, etc.
I usually park my vehicle facing south and angle the solar panel on the dash, pressed against the windshield to get as much sun exposure as possible. (Brush the dust off the windshield occasionally.) The battery pack is hooked up during the day and sits on the vehicle floor. Since I mostly use the battery pack at night, I disconnect it from the solar panel and bring it into my tent to charge various electronic devices, power LED lights, music, etc. The power pack has both 12VDC and 120VAC outputs. Some models also have built-in lights, cheap air compressors, radios, or auto jumper cables, which can come in handy.
Here's a practical suggestion: Buy just the battery pack from a brick-and-mortar store with a flexible return policy, like Fry's Electronics. Take it home, charge it up with the included wall charger from a regular AC outlet, and then run a few tests to make sure that it can handle your blender or sound system or lights or whatever, but don't exceed the maximum power rating. If the battery lasts a sufficient amount of time, now you can add the solar panel for recharging. If you need more power than the battery pack can provide, you'll need to look at upgrading to a larger system.
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Small Solar w / 20 amp battery and 10 watt panel $170+
Thu, December 18, 2008 - 7:57 PMLow amp hour power packs can be a good way to go for small power applications ( less than 20 amp hours ) like LED christmas lights producing low level camp lighting. they have a very limited ability to run a blender.
I think these two products are comparable to the all in one unit for $350+
Xantrex™ XPower PowerPack 400R 20 amp hour sealed battery $69.99
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx
Power Up 10 Watt 12 Volt Solar Panel $106.67
store.solar-electric.com/poup1...o.html
For intermittent high power work like a blender, consider a high wattage inverter off of your 200 amp vehicle battery. Starting a car to run a blender is as easy running a genny. In fact you can cobble together a very simple system using the battery in your car and a 40 to 60 watt panel.
Xantrex™ XPower™ Inverter 1000 - 120 VAC/60 Hz Mobile Power for Trucks, RVs and Minivans $74.99
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx
Power Up 40 Watt Solar Electric Panel $230.00
store.solar-electric.com/poup4...l.html
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Solar w / 100 - 200 amp battery and 40 - 60 watt panel $350 - $450
Thu, December 18, 2008 - 9:36 PMI built a system almost identical to this one and tied it into my car battery and alternator. I used diagram one and wired my 1000 watt inverter to the "load" output on an inexpensive charge controller. I use a manual cut out that is only open (energized) when the car is on or conditions during the day assure that both batteries can recharge from the days sun production.
www.backwoodshome.com/article...o93.html
I light up a camp of around 20 people ( 400 sf shade structure ) with 100 LED lights and blend a few drinks from my scions car battery / alternator and RV battery / solar panel. Maintenance is low once you learn the restrictions of your power produced.
I use 2 Kyocera 20 Watt 12 Volt Solar Panels $184.00 ea. and piano hinge them together for face to face shipping and storage.
store.solar-electric.com/kyoceraks20.htm
Morningstar SunSaver 6-12V Charge Controller $ 45.00 keeps the batteries from overcharge
www.affordable-solar.com/morni...er.htm
Xantrex™ XPower™ Inverter 1000 - 120 VAC/60 Hz Mobile Power for Trucks, RVs and Minivans $74.99
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx
Here is a 60 watt system all ready to go:
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx
This is a great source for batteries, wire sizing and system performance
12 volt side of life
www.ccis.com/home/mnemet...t/12volt.htm
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 10:00 PMGet your LED Christmas lights before their gone. A simple inverter, your car battery and a string of 50 lights will light your camp for many nights. Inverter automatic shut off ensures that the battery can still start the car.
www.costco.com/Browse/Product.aspx
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Fri, June 12, 2009 - 11:13 PMI'm so confused about getting a solar generator setup, and I don't want to buy something I'm too technologically-retarded to use!
Just something as simple as possible. Are there any little systems that already have plugs in them? I only need to run a fan, and possibly a little fridge.
How does this look?
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Re: thinking about going solar this nest burn?
Fri, June 12, 2009 - 11:17 PMHow about this?
cgi.ebay.com/12V-Briefca...aultDomain_0
I have a regular power plug( 3 prong) in the dash of my car. Would it be best just to get solar panels and charge my car battery?
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