I'm bringing a virgin...

topic posted Wed, May 14, 2008 - 8:52 PM by  Dave
My new girlfriend, of course! Any advice? I've been 6 times myself, so I should be a pretty good tour guide. We're both in our 40's and mellow, so drama will be about as low as it can get.
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  • Re: I'm bringing a virgin...

    Thu, May 15, 2008 - 11:23 AM
    take her for the FULL WEEK....with NO ADVICE, see if you still love each other afterwards, if you do, then consider marrying her!
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      Thu, May 15, 2008 - 11:25 AM
      i have gone with a few SOs before, until this one (the one i married), it was not fun and easy to be on the playa with someone......

      energy levels are different and people, lets face it, can lose their minds out there....
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        Fri, May 16, 2008 - 7:50 AM
        Give her some "free" time to go out and explore by herself.

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          Fri, May 16, 2008 - 2:36 PM
          ya, i had a hard time with my other SOs and that kind of thing.....this one, the one i married, he gets to kiss other women on the playa....we just dont have the same trust issues i used to have.....

          it is that kind of thing i am talking about....really take the time to see if you are compatible.
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            Fri, May 16, 2008 - 3:00 PM
            Is that abnormal? I recently had a discussion with my b/f stating that I think it would be okay to make out on the playa with other people. Was it okay out there and not here?
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              Fri, May 16, 2008 - 3:32 PM
              "Was it okay out there and not here?"

              Gweana,
              I think that's a great point. :) For things like relationships or sex, some people seem to treat BM like some other magical bubble world as opposed to just an extension of themselves and their real day to day life. So they make some special set of rules for Burning Man -- things they wouldn't otherwise be comfortable with in the day to day -- then suddenly expect themselves to be ok with it out there. Like what happens there doesn't really exist or they'll magically be some different person there. :)

              Yes, it's good to see it as an opportunity to challenge yourself and maybe try to flex your boundaries. But I personally I feel that you are the SAME PERSON at Burning Man that you are HERE. It's not a reset button or a get out of jail free card or a fairy wand. Some people expect Burning Man to make it all better ("it" being them, their life, their relationship, whatever). But things don't work that way. YOU make the change if you want it. The event doesnt' do it for you. (that's the global "you")

              So if you don't feel comfortable taking XYZ risk here, don't make plans with your relationship to do it THERE. You'll be just as uncomfortable with it on the playa, only then you'll be hot and dusty and tired and wigged when you're uncomfortable. If you both want to try something new together, as a joint effort, that's one thing. But for a monogamous person to go to BM and think they'll suddenly be ok with polyamory is just delusional. Or a shy person to suddenly think they'll be transformed overnight to the life of the party is unrealistic. (as examples)
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                Fri, May 16, 2008 - 4:17 PM
                sorry, you are right -- i left that part out...i was already making out with other women at other parties, before we went to the burn and we have very similar morals....which i already knew about..i guess i meant more that, if you think you are a good match, BM is a good place to see if it is....based on what you already know.


                thank you for the clarification/ reminder, Ms. Dynomite!
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                  Fri, May 16, 2008 - 5:52 PM
                  hee, you're welcome, angelicfiend. :) I guess that's my advice to someone who is bringing a virgin bf/gf. ;)

                  Sorry to hear you had some less pleasant experiences with SOs in the past. I've had a not-so good time burning with a SO as well. My first burn was really hard, in part due to the partner I was with at the time. He was not only bad for me, he was also a bad camp mate (I found out years later that one of our mutual friends, the most easy going and patient guy, refused to camp with the ex bf for that reason). Fortunately my current (hopefully last) bf is a great burn partner. We've been to Bman and several regional events, plus some road trips together. I think those kinds of things help us learn better communication and learn more about each other's needs (we're still learning).

                  The event really magnifies any problems or delicate areas in the relationship, plus as you said, people have different constitutions and temperments. If you're compatible as partners you may not be compatible as campmates, or vice versa. I agree that you do come home knowing if you are a good match or not. ;) in particular it lets you see how well you deal with conflict and comforting in the relationship. That's true for friendships as well. You can learn a lot about friends' quirks and motivations by burning with them.
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                    Mon, May 19, 2008 - 9:50 AM
                    It sounds like you have a lot of wisdom on SO's in the desert. SO maybe you could answer this. Last year my b/f and I were both virgins. We were both so miserable and tired and hot... that we walked around like zombie's the entire week and had a pretty lame first year. I hated it more than he did, and when we left I swore I would never come back.

                    I am the one that changed my mind and convinced him to go back. He is working on a misting system to keep us cooler during the day so we wont be zombies at night. However, regardless of our extra planning for comfort this year, he does not react to heat well. I am getting into this year's festivities by putting together a bunch of fun costumes. He is getting into it, by planning for camp comfort.

                    My only issue is, I want to have my adventures with him this year. I want him to get into dressing up, or going out during the day rather than sitting lazily in front of the mister hoping the sun will go down soon. Last year we got seperated at the burn.. and nights i went to bed early he stayed up and vice versa. We were just out of sync.

                    Outside of the burn our paths run parallel. We share all our other dreams together... How can I inspire him to hop on a bike with a silly hat and go on a playa adventure with me? How do you mesh with a SO in the desert when the elements are working against you?
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                      Mon, May 19, 2008 - 10:50 AM
                      we tried to do a number of things...one was, one night we went to bed hella early and got up before dawn.....will that suffice? if you can get him up and out for a few hours in the morning light?

                      remember that people are just different, what may feel just *hot* to you, may really be unbearable for him...like food, and taste...sometimes it tastes good to some and others are not able to stand it....ya know? different chemistry.

                      about costumes: some people are just not comfortable coming out of their shell...ask him what he WOULD wear....maybe a pair of horns???? or face paint?

                      ask him what he wants and give it to him...then maybe he will ask you what you want....

                      i love it that you both had a horrid time and want to go back....hehehehe. on some level you were still so wow'd you have to do it more....!
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                        Mon, May 19, 2008 - 11:04 AM
                        I like that idea. Maybe ask him one thing he might like doing and make every effort to accommodate it. The perhaps start small, by asking for him to go out only once during the day during the week.

                        I know part of this adventure is meeting new people. So I really don't expect him to do everything with me. But I know you understand the magic of seeing or experiencing something really cool and having someone important by your side to experience it with you.
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                          Mon, May 19, 2008 - 11:46 AM
                          If he can't take the heat, why make him go out during the day?
                          I go out a bit in the morning usually, but during the heat of the day I just sit in the shade, play Scrabble with my campmates, nap, and watch the parade going by. You can meet plenty of new people even if you don't move...
                          At the end of the day when the sun starts to go down is when I get my motor going, and usually a lot fresher for having taken it easy when it's 100+ degrees.
                          If he doesn't want to go with you somewhere, please don't pressure him. Pressure creates friction, friction makes fire, and then the man burns on a tuesday.
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                      Mon, May 19, 2008 - 12:42 PM
                      everyone will experience burningman differently, and each persons experience is their own...

                      we have been, this will be 12 years, and it's curious how over the years things I take away from and experience on the playa are not the same ones he recalls...

                      I'll say, did ya see that, he recalls it differently.. in the early years of this I'd have my feelings easily hurt by what I perceived as his lack of interest in the same things....

                      seemed we rarely shared a common experience out there..

                      my expectations were such that it put some pressure on our playa experience...

                      over the years, I have learned, that we can each have our own experiences, and come back and share our excitement over what we saw, or experienced with one another... if its then something the other finds curious enough we can then go experience it together...

                      but if ya feel as though you HAVE to go do something that you may not feel interested in, that will put pressure and expectation on you, or him and that can cause the issues...

                      everything about the playa has a way of magnifying the senses, things that may not otherwise matter seem to become larger than life...

                      when you mix the elements, heat, cold, elevation, dust, wind, along with being physically tired, and psychologically on overload from all the sensory input ya have a petri dish for a ripe culture of potential "viral" issues.....

                      we have found that if we go out to explore alone, find things we are interested in, and then come back to camp, and share our expeiences with one another it seems to encourage us to want to go and experience it together..

                      we tease about it being our own expedition.. we even say to one another.. I'm going on an expedition, if I find something you might enjoy I'll come tell you about it and maybe we can go experience it together..

                      that way no one feels as if they are being dragged all over the place in the heat or cold or whiteouts when they may really only want to hang at camp and enjoy their own experience...

                      and, remember, Time does not exisit on the playa, what may seem like only a few minutes can really become hours, we never wear watches, so, when we go explore alone we try to remember to come back before the other person feels the need to send out a search team....

                      I ALWAYS carry a spray bottle with me, and a bandana that I can use to cover my face in a whiteout, or wet and tie loosely around my neck to help keep me cool... and if you wet the bandana in a white out, it helps to breathe easier thru the moisture, and cathes the dust on the wetness rather than filter it thru the material..

                      if you allow your body to just rest when it needs to, eat when you're hungry, sleep when ya feel the need, and remember to keep hydrated, your experience wil be much more fun, not to mention more comfortable.

                      its the expectations we put on ourselves to continue going and going and expect those with us to keep going and going too that creates the "performance anxiety" and finally it's no longer fun, but becomes "work" and No one I know wants to go and have to work while trying to have a good time

                      if you can accept the fact, you will see what you are meant to, do what you are meant to and experience what you are meant to, then it's likely you'll have a beter time because there isn't such a focus and drive to be everywhere and do everything....

                      if ya take individual expeditions, ya can each have your own experiences.. and then share them, ya cover more ground that way too,

                      we have photos of things that each of us have taken that we may not have otherwise seen had we stayed together for all of the time out there.....

                      as for the personal interactions.. our rule is, if ya want to play, bring em back to camp so we can all meet before ya go off together.. but then we have THAT kind of relationship already, and its not just a playa thing

                      the trick to a positive playa experience is to have NO EXPECTATIONS!! just allow the playa to direct your path, find a rhythm that works for you, allow him to have his rhythm, and if you're meant to, the rhythms will become insync....

                      be prepared for the heat, I do believe, based on our wacky weather, we're going to have a Hot one.. but, then, that's just "my" expectation... <grin>

                      I hope ya have a wonderful time this year.....


                      Bare
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                        Mon, May 19, 2008 - 1:08 PM
                        Thanks. I don't think I will ever pressure him. Last year when I asked him to come with me and he declined, I didn't push it. I was looking for ideas of what I could do to make it easier and / or more comfortable for him this year.

                        I appreciate the advice and will keep it in mind if the situation comes up this year.
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                          Mon, May 19, 2008 - 1:19 PM
                          our natural tendency is to want to make everything comfortable and easier for the other person, it's the "caretaker" in us... don't try, the pressure is then on you and that can cause you distress, each person is responsible for their own level of comfort and choices they make...there's a great quote, Don't accept a false sense of responsibility for things that are beyond your control...

                          B.....
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                            Mon, May 19, 2008 - 1:22 PM
                            True dat. Here is the average scenario for me:

                            We show up at a bar, there is only one open table.. with 2 chairs, there are three of us, and 2 showing up later. I scrounge to find a chair, then once seated I am so worried about obtaining 2 more chairs for the others showing up that I cannot enjoy myself until i know everyone will have a seat.

                            This is not just a BM thing. But definitly something to be aware of. Thanks.
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                              Tue, May 20, 2008 - 9:52 AM
                              "I think it would be okay to make out on the playa with other people."

                              Good luck.
                              Some couples can handle it, other's can't. If he agrees with you, I hope you have a strong relationship, because it will be tested.

                              You might want to define what "make out" means.

                              Remember, according to Bill Clinton.. a blow job wasn't sex.
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                          Wed, June 11, 2008 - 1:53 AM
                          Also the grumpy zombie state sounds like mild heat stroke not hydrating enough. A gallon jug a day minimum. Before you get thirsty. Piss Clear. And add some gator/power/gookin-ade and maybe some potassium tablets.

                          nd now I realize, start two days early. I think that's why I'm always off kilter till a couple days in...
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                            Sun, June 15, 2008 - 9:03 AM
                            There's a aluminum light weight bar at home depot that they use for flooring! it's got triangle like holes in it! it's light weight and hard to bend but can be bendable with a man's help! buy some of that with some solar shade fabric also available at home depot and zip tie a shade structure over your bikes! Make sure you bring a nice bike seat for your playa bike so you can have added comfort! I like to buy fabric to tie like cape to my back for added shade. put it in the cooler water when going on adventures during the day! Buy a huge wald basket for the bike so you can bring one of those collapsable coolers fiiled with ice to cool down. fill the cooler with drinks and add ice to them and you will be golden! don't forget to buy either pedialyte bottles or emergency electrolytes to add to your drinks!
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                Wed, May 21, 2008 - 9:18 PM
                dG and I have been reading posts on here for a few weeks now... Great info by the way, especially by the regular posters...

                My girl and I are both virgin burners, and we have a more open relationship than most relationships. She has kissed other women, always asking before doing so, and we've shared one all-night experience together. Both of us had shared experiences when dating other people, but this was the first time for us, and it was a great experience. We have both had many lovers, and actually like the experience factor that both of us have... We know the playa will be a entirely new setting for both of us, hence our inquiry...

                I am a non-jealous person by nature, especially being on the older and more experienced side. If she has feelings and wants to explore something, I'm all for it if it's something she wants or needs, because I want her to experience life with support from an unconditional partner who truly cares about her. She is open to me experiencing new things as well, but she's not as eager or encouraging for me to explore in comparison!! She appreciates that I am so unconditional with her, but sometimes finds it hard to reciprocate the feeling when the discussion arises. This isn't a bad thing. I have never judged her or asked her to change. I have only asked for honesty and to be open to discussion as to how we deal with future situations. She was open to anything when we started dating, but then tightened up once we fell in love, then started opening up more recently...

                So I'm looking for suggestions on how we can approach the situations that we are bound to find on the playa. We are trying to prepare for all aspects of the event, as much as possible anyways. Have you found you wanted to experience everything together? Or were there times you've wanted to experience things on your own, and not feel guilty about having these individuals experiences? This doesn't have to specifically be about sex, kissing, or intimacy with other people, just experiences in general.

                When I was back in college, we pushed the limits in every way possible, and before we went about doing something new and different, I assured everyone that each person's experience was their own, so not to take things personally if someone was headed in a different direction or was on a different wavelength. I also assured them that they was free to have their own experience, but if they needed help or wanted someone else to share their experience, that in most cases all they needed to do was ask...

                Looking forward to more great information from all our new friends... :)
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                  Thu, May 22, 2008 - 10:10 AM
                  "She was open to anything when we started dating, but then tightened up once we fell in love, then started opening up more recently... "

                  I think that is how it goes. Once I realized how deeply I felt for my B/F suddenly the whole open relationship or threesome factor got too risky. Suddenly I had too much to lose. I wish I personally knew how to get over that because it is something I want to be comfortable with and allow me and my b/f to explore.
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                  Thu, May 22, 2008 - 10:13 AM
                  And to answer your question. I don't know that anything can prepare you for the playa. Last year was my first year. I stayed with very tenured burners.. who also helped me to plan and pack.. and still nothing could possible prepare me for the experience I had., which actually was unpleasant. I am going back because I know I saw and did little my first year because I was in shock most of the time from what was going on around me.

                  This year I am better prepared, but only because I had gone... nothing can prepare you. I say go with no expectations this year.. expectations are pointless your first time.
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                  Thu, May 22, 2008 - 11:09 AM
                  "So I'm looking for suggestions on how we can approach the situations that we are bound to find on the playa. We are trying to prepare for all aspects of the event, as much as possible anyways"

                  if you already have "rules" and boundries in place for your relationship then you are already ahead. my suggesstion is DON'T try anything on the playa that you wouldn't already consider (or have done) off the playa

                  the playa tends to magnify EVERYTHING, the functional and dysfunctional in relationships...

                  truth is, more often than not, most everyone I know finds that sex is only a very small fraction of the actual playa experience... funny how that works.. now I am not sayin we're not gettin any out there, but I am saying there is sooo much to see and do that by the time ya make time for sex it's either too hot, too cold, too tired, too whatever.....

                  be sure to be prepared, obviously.... and don't be so quick to jump right into a playa experience without being very sure your partner and relationship are in a good place with it...

                  we have had an open relationship for 37 years now, and though we have had the opportunity for a playa thing we have never taken it beyond the flirting/kissing stage.. just too many variables...

                  just go with an open mind and be sure you're both on the same page, then allow the play to bring the experiences to you.... try not to have any expectations of what you're going to do, that way ya don't set yourself up for a disappointing first time...

                  beyond being prepared with your shelter, shade, food, and water, everything else is just icing... enjoy it for what it is... if ya find a playa playmate, if thats your focus, then you're one of the lucky ones, ..

                  have a great time....
                  Bare
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                    Thu, May 22, 2008 - 11:39 AM
                    Gweana - Thanks for your reply. We had both been open to the 3-some idea since getting together, even putting ourselves in situations to make it a good possibility. But all in all, it just never ended up being the right time. The night we did hook it up, we weren't even thinking about it, it just ended up working out that way and it you couldn't have asked for a better situation. The difficult side for dG was that this 3rd person ended up being a friend of ours, and I think my g/f had a hard time dealing with her feelings afterwards because it was one of her friends, so there was 1) how does she treat her 'friend' now and will it change their friendship? and 2) now another female has a connection with her b/f and she then had to worry about where my head (and heart) were at with it... It's been over a month now, and I think she is finally getting over the initial feelings or worry. It's that hot mexican blood in her, I'm telling ya!! LOL Nah, seriously, we are definately open to future experiences, but I think we've both agreed that it will not be with another person inside our daily circle of communication or activity, so as to not change the dynamics of our daily lives.

                    Bare - Thanks also to you for your great advice! We know that regardless of what happens, we will still love each other, still plan on building a life together, and we've both dated enough people to know what else is out there and what isn't. It's rare to find that long-term connection and outlook on life, so we respect what we have. Because we have that foundation of respect and love for each other, we should then be able to add things to our lives, as additions, not replacements. I think that's were couples get into trouble, because it's the replacement factor or the feeling of inadequacy that ruins the experience, and the nature of the relationship. It seems the playa will magnify everything, so this conversation IS good prep for us... :)

                    We're looking forward to running into both of you out on the playa and towards the unknown of BM08 with excitement and anticipation!!

                    Other suggestions or discussion is welcome as well!! :) ~ Gage n dG
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                      Thu, May 22, 2008 - 1:22 PM
                      Thank you it's good to hear about a couple who succeeded. I hear so much negativity like "Bringing in a 3rd party complicates things" "Brining in a third statistically will cause a break-up" This is from professionals and otherwise. My B/F means too much to me for me to want to put our relationship at risk for something that could have been easily avoided. Yes I fear where is heart would be...but I guess what happens happens right? If he were to fall for someone else... then avoiding a threesome for that fear would have been pointless as likely it would have happened eventually anyway. The unknown is a scary thing.

                      When I was in a previous relationship it wasn't as risky. Anyway, thanks for sharing. I think it's great that you two are strong enough to peruse that, have fun with it, and be strong enough to not let uncomfortable feelings break you. And admit it. I think when I have had discussions before with people that have had "successful" threesomes that always say.. "Oh neither of us had a problem. Everything was great. " When people say that it indicates that I must not be ready for it, because if I'm going to do it I should feel the way these people do and be completely comfortable and carefree about it. But now that I'm looking I bet their situations were a lot like yours. They just couldn't tell me honestly what it was really like.

                      Your experiance seems a lot more attainable and realistic.
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                        Thu, May 22, 2008 - 6:42 PM
                        I've been in 1 other relationship where the girl was into a three-some as much as I was, so because of that, it was easy to find those experiences (or they found us). Unfortunately, it wasn't the real deal like I have now, so that's all it ended up being... I think most couples have problems in bringing in that 3rd party or couple because one person wants it more than the other, and then the anticipation (or the actual event) create an even bigger gap between the couple. That seems to be the case more than not, on your side or theirs...

                        Even though dG and I are highly sexual in nature, we haven't really looked at the event in regards to sex... not until this post. But I'm glad it did come up, because our conversations are now addressing that issue along with all the other things on the table to pre-plan for.

                        So to turn the topic a little bit, what fun and inventive ways has anyone found to include others in your daily/nightly outings? Both dG and I qualified for Scholarship tickets this year (wOOhOO!!), and in filling out the questionaire (which asked a lot about how we we wanted to contribute to the community), I really do want to contribute in a significant way. We started off our preparations by looking for an RV, but now we are dead set on caming it up. I hadn't thought about adding my creativity to the event, but now I want to create an art piece, or enlarge our camp to include a mini-theme, etc...

                        Suggestions or fun things you've seen people do in the past to involve others, or 'invite' them to participate?
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                          Thu, May 22, 2008 - 7:08 PM
                          on the subject of relationships, there have been some wonderful discussions in the past years about relationships on the Burning Woman tribe. If you search "relationship" or "couple" you'll likely find some good threads:
                          burningwoman.tribe.net/
                          Also, the 2008 Burning Man Virgins tribe has had some threads I think:
                          tribes.tribe.net/08bmvirgins


                          GageNdG,
                          since we're starting to veer off the topic of burning man tips, I thought I'd let you know that you might also find some helpful discussions on some of the poly tribes. :) I know you're new to Tribe and you might not have discovered them yet. Here are some I found in a quick search, but I'm not poly myself so others might be able to share more:

                          polyamory.tribe.net/
                          polyamorous.tribe.net/
                          fluidrelationships.tribe.net/
                          alternatemarraiges.tribe.net/
                          tribes.tribe.net/polyvsmono
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                            Thu, May 22, 2008 - 8:21 PM
                            Rock on Dyno! I had seen the one discussion on Burning Woman and had dG check that one out. What a good read!

                            But thanks for these additional links... I'm SO in sponge mode right now!! :D
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                            Thu, May 22, 2008 - 10:59 PM
                            Dyno Baby, You rock, ya beat me to it..... Mwahhh!!!

                            if I may say, though, be sure to at least meet the people in the camp BEFORE ya decide if ya wanna camp with them,

                            Having been part of a large (60+) camp in the past I can tell ya that having a personal camp with personal space has made all the difference for us and our playa experience..

                            I Know thats not important for everyone, but just be sure to think about what you want before choosing a large camp...

                            we found that having our own space with a few close people and then going to visit the larger camp worked best for us.. just a suggestion for you to consider when looking for campmates..

                            Bare
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                          Fri, May 23, 2008 - 12:26 PM
                          another great thing is jack rabbit speaks....you can sign up for it here: www.burningman.com/blackroc...ists.html

                          it is a great newletter where you can be exposed to many projects and see who really needs help and how....many people need assistance with projects prior to getting to the playa.....

                          like Bare said, meet people before you go to the playa. i like camping on my own, but have in my nine years finally found a camp where we all click, about 30 people and we all share duties amazingly well and our camp fee was $40 -- which included dinner every night and a porta potty.
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                            Fri, May 23, 2008 - 12:27 PM
                            and we spend four or five weekends working to get everything in order for playatime and bringing it home and putting it away..............
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                              Fri, May 23, 2008 - 12:28 PM
                              and one more thing.....fucking yay for less RVs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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                                Fri, May 23, 2008 - 4:29 PM
                                Second... although if I thought I could afford it I would totally do it anyway.
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                                  Tue, May 27, 2008 - 12:35 PM
                                  and when i was about to pass out from heat exhaustion i totally crawled into one and layed on the linolium.....also have carpooled to burn in one....so, who am I to talk??????
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                                    Tue, May 27, 2008 - 12:42 PM
                                    if I thought our old dinosaur RV could make it out there I'd do it... just once, to see what all the fuss is about LOL!! but, we love our Dome Homes out there... last year, we did the tent thing and no generator, but we were only out there last year for 56 hours.. no point in setting up an entire camp for just that many hours.. this year will be a full camp, so back to the domes, and IF we get this RV runnin before then we just might try to take it, just to say we have done it..

                                    B...