Rocket Stoves are a great example of appropriate/low technology. Using a handful of sticks, you can get the same heat output as with a log or two from a conventional open fire. The trick is special draft inducing vents and a chimminy to make that blaze burn white hot.
I'm looking for help in designing a good rocket stove... the kind made of on-site Natural Materials like mud, clay, sticks,grass, etc., rather than the metal ones you make at home. Do any experienced oven/stove builders have a good, easy design? Please share the details.
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I'm looking for help in designing a good rocket stove... the kind made of on-site Natural Materials like mud, clay, sticks,grass, etc., rather than the metal ones you make at home. Do any experienced oven/stove builders have a good, easy design? Please share the details.
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Re: Rocket stoves... want to build one
Sat, February 23, 2008 - 11:42 AMis a rocket stove like a sierra stove? www.zzstove.com/
I did find this, which has a link to build your own (scroll down). but it looks like you do it with cans
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Sat, February 23, 2008 - 12:25 PMthanks Ms,
I've seen that already...we're looking to make them of on-site available natural freely available materials in the woods such as mud, clay, sticks, ash, cow /horse dung, & whatnot. Such designs exist...we've seen them, but weren't paying much attention at the time with an eye for detail.
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Sat, February 23, 2008 - 4:49 PMI'm now fascinated by this, so I looked it up. maybe these will help. you may also want to try looking at what African cultures have been doing because I keep seeing mention of mud stoves there.
these are home-heating versions made from cob (mud, straw, etc.)
www.youtube.com/watch
ilovecob.com/archive/fin...rocket-stove
www.ilovecob.com/gallery/rocket/
this has a ton of various rocket stoves, some of which look like they're made with mud:
www.bioenergylists.org/en/tax...term/12
if you scroll down on this page there's a link for a PDF for info on a project in Mexico using various materials
solarcooking.wikia.com/wiki/Rocket_stove
and this one shows how to make one with what you might already have on you (pans, etc.) and a hole in the ground:
www.pond-doctor-dave.com/rocke...e.html
this shows one made of bricks:
www.chimp-n-sea.org/projects...y-stoves/
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Re: Rocket stoves... want to build one
Sat, February 23, 2008 - 9:43 PMMs... :
Thank you for doing the research.
The object has been to get to the woods carrying minimum equipment/materials, build & use the stove, then break it down, leaving the materials to biodegrade with the first rain back into the ground. Simple. Elegant.Earth-friendly. Nothing to carry in....nor to carry out. And to create a practical stove capable of cooking food for many at a large gathering.
The diagram at the wikia page comes close to what I have in mind. It shows the L-form Winarski design, with the typical elbow, the fuelwood feeder shelf with air intake beneath, and the combustion taking place at the corner of the elbow just at the point where it meets the chimney. These are the features that will work. And this design can be made entirely of cob (or adobe). No metal to lug around. Some of the other design variations cited, with oblique feed tube and without undershelf air passage, may be harder to do out of earth materials.
One question was about making the shelf. One page mentions use of ceramic tile for the shelf. Good, but still stuff to carry around. The chimp webpage shows use of a simple wire grate as a shelf. I believe this would work only a solid shelf would work better in bringing additional dedicated air current. But if we did want to go this route then all we'd need carry in would be some steel rod bits that could be arranged as a shelf, albeit an open one.
I think I could make the shelf out of rock slab if available, or else very carefully mold some air tubes of clay to go under the fuel feed portion. The vertical chimney can be done in cob; the horizontal fuel feed chamber, roughly in the form of a vaulted arch, is another matter. If made of cob, the roof of it would slump in before drying solid... so that part can be made from on- site-made adobe brick.
So I'm looking for detail of the air intake below the fuel feed, and secondly, I'm looking for detail of the chimney top - so as to be strong enough to support a water-filled cooking vessel , and this would have to be made so as to allow smoke to vent up from around the kettle.
Maybe one just has to get out there and start playing with mud... and the solution will become apparent.
Has anyone else seen any quick-n-dirty jungle-build rocket stoves, or maybe has ideas about how-to adapt the metal designs into earth?
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 9:06 AMBriggi,
you're welcome. :) I didn't realize they could be made out of something other than metal, nor that they could be made so large. so that was fun looking into it.
if you want to do the most minimal, I would think the hole-in-the-ground variety would be the best approach. you're not so much building up as carving out in that case. have you checked any of the wilderness or survival tribes? some folks there might have experience with this. -
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 11:10 AMms
that hole-in the ground one is an oblique feed, without additional airdraft tube, and would tie up one skillet as an oven component which then would be unusable as cooking vessel.... a downside when you're packing everything in. No, I'm going with the Winarski-engineered design -- translated to earth. Maybe I'll try and write Larry Winarski for some advice.
good point to ask around at some other tribes.
I've seen these at some Rainbow gatherings, and some were set up big to feed lotsa folks. ...but I wasn't interested in it much at that time. Teach you to pay attention when you have the chance.
What's with the Mr & Mrs urban cannibal death getup?
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Wed, February 27, 2008 - 2:04 PMplease post back when you find out. :) I'd love to know as well.
"What's with the Mr & Mrs urban cannibal death getup? "
if you mean the pics in my album, that's the annual All Souls festival. like the Day of the Dead. happens a few days after Halloween.
I mean, um, what? we just dress like that. ;)
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