Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

topic posted Thu, May 11, 2006 - 8:48 PM by  ChAnDra
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Hi~ I joined this tribe in search for my truth with my experience with Santeria. I hope that someone can help bring some clarity to my situation and experience I encountered with Santeria. I appreciate if you could read this post throughly. I will do my best to be as descripitive and Humble as possible without judgement or misunderstandings on my part.

Last summer I got involved with a man whose from Chile and was living in Canada and he praticed Santeria. He invited me to do ceremonies with him. He shortly moved in with me and we shared a sacred Temple space together. He said I am the daughter of Oshuna as he is Chango. We are no longer together and is living now in Chile. Long story short....After our separation I felt a huge weight lifted from me. During our relationship, I felt I became someone else. I felt submissive and controlled. I felt he made an attachment on me. Does this makes sense? My Question is....In Santeria, I believe that there is white Magik and Black Magik. I have been doing some research by reading books. And Travelling to Brasil to understand and learn more about Santeria, Condomble. My encounters in Brasil were also mind blowing experiences. My question is...How does one know if, for instance, This particular person was actually playing with Black Magik? On Me? As a matter of fact, I knew that he was. But,,,How do I untie this attachement and free myself from him and this energy. He also was very Hush about anything I asked. I am confused. I send him his belongings in the temple and have taken down everything and put it in Bags. I dont know what to do with the rest of the stuff.
I personally do not want to keep anything and I want my space to be cleared. Can you please give me any guides and information as to what I should do and also explain in your highest wisdom and all due respect as to what I experienced.
I am not writing everything as I feel sort of unconfrotable.
He used rhum and cigars as well on the temple...Candles...photos....Offerings for the Orishas
I played Congas and sang in Yoruba for the Orishas
And I sensed their presence
I truly believe all this
But would like to have more detailed Information
I would greatly appreciate any feedback..You may write me back personally or on this thread. Whatever makes you all confortable.
Thank you so much for your time
Sandra
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ChAnDra
Minneapolis
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    Re: Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

    Fri, May 12, 2006 - 4:05 AM
    Ase Sandra,

    i'm really sorry that you went through this experience. i think at this point you would need a reading to find out what is happening spiritually that you may not be aware of yet, and what you can do to cleanse yourself. i don't know any candomble priests in canada (does anyone else?) but there are some communities that have connections to priests in california, chicago and new york if you are ever stateside.

    i was unclear from your post if you are interested in santeria or candomble (they are two different traditions, but are both yoruba based). there is a wonderful FAQ written by Iyalorisa Denise Oliver-Velez with tons of information for newcomers to santeria/lukumi. an FAQ is also being composed for candomble. please read through this FAQ, here is a link to it

    santerialukumi.proboards49.com/index.cgi

    the FAQ is in the basic answers and questions forum...under FYI draft FAQ

    ase,
    idowu
  • Re: Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

    Fri, May 12, 2006 - 4:42 AM
    Sandra,

    seems to me that you need to clarify the nature of your rleationship with this guy before to jump onto conclusions such a majc and the likes...
    as of your thruth??? only you , nobody else in the world will help you...
    Gamo
    • Re: Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

      Fri, May 12, 2006 - 9:30 AM
      My experience relates more to Santeria and Yes I did post my request in the Santeria Tribe.
      I was recently in Brasil...Salvadore de Bahia to more precise and I was shocked and amazed as to what was happening. A woman I met was practicing under a Mestre and she had the look of desperation to have a clearer understanding as to what Condomble is. I know that every Religion as it s White and its Black side. therefore, I went to Brasil to learn more. I arrived to meet this woman who was being completly controlled and sexually forced by this man saying it is part of the Religion. I refused to believe this. Anyway, I posted this topic and am asking for some guidance because I just wanted to know what was your insight on the Black magik side of the religion. And How to detach from these people who fro instance, this woman trusted this man and now has her temple set up in his home in Brasil. As for myself, I have dismantled my temple and no longer feed that space in my life as I realized and i guess I always knew that something didnt feel right. If someone cannot answer my questions..their are some secrets and manipulation going on.
      Thank so much for your advice
      I am on my spiritual path ...always have been living in my spirit....
      I have cleared everything in my relation with this guy....and I know that It all starts with yourself....It has nothing to do with this man who entered my life and influenced me in this practice...It has to do with freeing my spiritual and personal space...This is what I was asking...that if anyone had any suggestions as you are practicing Condomble....
      Thanks
      Peace
      Sandra
      • Re: Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

        Fri, May 12, 2006 - 3:34 PM
        Sandra,
        Anybody saying in any religion that you have to be submited and sexually forced to whoever and whatever should raise a black and red flag... i mean red...

        I have no clue to what you consider black magic in Candomble and in Santeria since we deal with reconnecting our Ori and Axe to the "mass cell energy ' of what makes the world go round or at least should make it go round..
        There is no Mestre in candomble, this is capoeira or Umbanda mixed a bit with of everything....
        i am sorry that you keep meeting thise issues..
        I would suggest that you talk to a serious elder such as Iya Denise or Iya MAria de Oxala on the list candomble@ yahoogroups so that can give you a clearer view of what is Candomble and Santeria

        Hope this help
        Axe!
        gamo de Xango
        • Re: Searching for MY Truth~ Can you help Me?

          Fri, May 12, 2006 - 7:53 PM
          Gamo...

          When I was expressing about this experience I encountered in Brasil I was referring to a woman I met in my travels whom lived this horrific experience with him taking advantage of her sexually. yes, Mestre does mean a master of some martial art. True. we called him Mestre. My own experience with Santeria does not involve me being abused sexually or better said...taken advantage of through the Religious traditions. No....I became involved with a man and fell deeply in love and almost as infatuated as he was with me...and I became involved in his religious practice which roots back to Cuba....a huge haitian community here in Quebec and many santeros...I went to Brasil knowing about Santa Barbara...Being a daughter of Oshuna....I was in awe of worshipping my shango...Little did I know...I only knew what was told to me...And I was never abused in a physical way but more in a mind controlling ego power trip...This is why we fell apart....Because it was not working on his hehalf...and Eleggua closed his doors..and obatala cut off his head..and he was deported back to his country...I was free of him..and I went on my path...I wanted to know how to deal with his belongings and how to protect myself...and how to bring peace and tranquility in my space....
          peace
          Sandra

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