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This is an interesting gathering... I have been exploring cascadia for some years now, and I must say, this is the first time I have met "born again" elves... oh, I have met many who have been reincarnated, and I myself have experienced rebirth many times... but I think its time we look at the human religion of "christianity" from a truly elven perspective... The Life of an elf stretches back long before the age of of the fisher king...
To begin, christ was not a person... christ is an archetype... many religions around the world have worshiped the son of god (je zeus as pronounced by the greeks) The story of the virgin birth, miraculous life, blameless sacrifice, and reincarnation are almost universal in pagan (of the people) religions... Look at Dionyssus, the green man, and horus... they all lived the same story told of the jesus of modern christianity... these elements of the story refer to the natural cycles of the sun as it passes the winter solstice (dies) and three days later, is resurected. And this is the common theme which allowed modern "christianity" to blend with so many hereditary faiths
the term Christian rightly refers to any religion that worships the christ (sacrificial lamb) not just to catholics, protestants, and hatemongering fundamentalists
There probably was a man in Galiele who came to be known as Jesus... A teacher who stepped up and spoke out against the roman rule and encouraged the downtrodden with important truths.... truths such as "Even the least of you, can do such as this." in reference to his miracles... What Jesus was telling the world is that we are all the sons and daughters of the creator, we can all access the magic directly, we do not need priests, angels, emperors, or saviors standing between us an divinity...
The emporer claudius saw the danger inherent in a populus with direct divine connection... This is why he converted to christianity... declaring himself the representitive of god on this plane... in order to place himself between the people and the creator... this was the foundation of the christian church as we know it... egomaniacle deification for the purpose of maintaining political control... before this, the term "church" in christian writings only refered to the collection of believers...
Perhaps the most misunderstand, misused, and misquoted verse of the new testament is "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the father except by me." Modern christians have blindly accepeted the definition of this verse as it has been handed down to them from the ancient roman controllers... They take it to mean that belief in Jesus is all that is required for mankind to enter heaven... In truth, this an example from the teacher called Jesus of practical spiritual living... Jesus was adknowledging the oneness of being... refusing to seperate himself from the life he lived..
Jesus defines himself (and all other spiritual beings) with the following 3 statements
I am the way (the Tao)
I am the truth (the absolute)
I am the life (the essence)
He then continued by using the word "me" as an analogy for the spiritual principals with which he just defined himself
No one comes to the creator except by (accepting the way, living the truth, and honoring life)... me
Jesus was not telling you to worship him... he was telling you to be your own guru... he lived an exemplary life as an inspiration to others, not to set himself apart from them... Jesus walked with those who were considered "sinners" at the time, without judging them... he expressed this in many ways... "Judge not, lest you be judged" "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If you seek to share in the life of the christ... do not seek to enforce your morays on others...
Elves, in this time of change you must set aside attachents to the dogma you have inherited... it no longer serves you, the mother earth, or the father sky... We are all sons and daughters of the creator... We are all miracle workers... don't rely on figures of ledgend to make magic for you... when even your christian savior has told you to do it for yoursElf...
love light laughter and song
myrth
To begin, christ was not a person... christ is an archetype... many religions around the world have worshiped the son of god (je zeus as pronounced by the greeks) The story of the virgin birth, miraculous life, blameless sacrifice, and reincarnation are almost universal in pagan (of the people) religions... Look at Dionyssus, the green man, and horus... they all lived the same story told of the jesus of modern christianity... these elements of the story refer to the natural cycles of the sun as it passes the winter solstice (dies) and three days later, is resurected. And this is the common theme which allowed modern "christianity" to blend with so many hereditary faiths
the term Christian rightly refers to any religion that worships the christ (sacrificial lamb) not just to catholics, protestants, and hatemongering fundamentalists
There probably was a man in Galiele who came to be known as Jesus... A teacher who stepped up and spoke out against the roman rule and encouraged the downtrodden with important truths.... truths such as "Even the least of you, can do such as this." in reference to his miracles... What Jesus was telling the world is that we are all the sons and daughters of the creator, we can all access the magic directly, we do not need priests, angels, emperors, or saviors standing between us an divinity...
The emporer claudius saw the danger inherent in a populus with direct divine connection... This is why he converted to christianity... declaring himself the representitive of god on this plane... in order to place himself between the people and the creator... this was the foundation of the christian church as we know it... egomaniacle deification for the purpose of maintaining political control... before this, the term "church" in christian writings only refered to the collection of believers...
Perhaps the most misunderstand, misused, and misquoted verse of the new testament is "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No one comes to the father except by me." Modern christians have blindly accepeted the definition of this verse as it has been handed down to them from the ancient roman controllers... They take it to mean that belief in Jesus is all that is required for mankind to enter heaven... In truth, this an example from the teacher called Jesus of practical spiritual living... Jesus was adknowledging the oneness of being... refusing to seperate himself from the life he lived..
Jesus defines himself (and all other spiritual beings) with the following 3 statements
I am the way (the Tao)
I am the truth (the absolute)
I am the life (the essence)
He then continued by using the word "me" as an analogy for the spiritual principals with which he just defined himself
No one comes to the creator except by (accepting the way, living the truth, and honoring life)... me
Jesus was not telling you to worship him... he was telling you to be your own guru... he lived an exemplary life as an inspiration to others, not to set himself apart from them... Jesus walked with those who were considered "sinners" at the time, without judging them... he expressed this in many ways... "Judge not, lest you be judged" "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone", and "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." If you seek to share in the life of the christ... do not seek to enforce your morays on others...
Elves, in this time of change you must set aside attachents to the dogma you have inherited... it no longer serves you, the mother earth, or the father sky... We are all sons and daughters of the creator... We are all miracle workers... don't rely on figures of ledgend to make magic for you... when even your christian savior has told you to do it for yoursElf...
love light laughter and song
myrth
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Re: expanding the elven perspective on christianity
Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:31 AMInteresting.... while I do not believe all 100% I must admit there are truths here: truths that many conservatives reject as heresy. Of course many have rejected me as an heretic..... -
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Re: expanding the elven perspective on christianity
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 2:07 PM"Heresy" is what the controllers shout, when they hear a truth that threatens their power structure.... Ideas cannot threaten the truth... they either support it or are disolved by it... when you look at all the faiths, of all the people, of this world, It is the common ideas that come closest to the truth... Dogma is a poison, a contagion, passed from the hearts of the fearful to the minds of the uncertain...
it does not matter what valley we come from, or what mountain we climb, when we reach the top, and turn our gaze upward... we see the same sky... and when we look down to where we have come from... we see the same earth...
love light laughter and song
Myrth
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