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Thu, September 6, 2007 - 10:51 AMhekate.timerift.net/--etc has been a valued resource.
hekate.timerift.net/roles.htm
Also, greetings.. as today I have joined this tribe and tribe.net.
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 5:49 PMThe Temple of Hekate Online:
www.pacificnet.net/~spectre/Temple/
If you go to the graphics library, there's two wheels I made LONG ago (1998?).... lol. Those were the days.
To bastardize the Animaniacs:
Wheel of Hekate, turn turn turn... Tell us the lesson that we should learn....
J
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Sun, January 8, 2006 - 5:58 PMFour invalueable and easily available (thanks, Amazon) books regarding Hekate:
Hekate Soteira by Sarah Iles Johnston
The Rotting Goddess by Jacob Rabinowitz
Hekate in Ancient Greek Religion by Robert Von Rudloff
Crossroads by Greg Crowfoot
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Tue, October 3, 2006 - 11:06 PM" Four invalueable and easily available (thanks, Amazon) books regarding Hekate:
Hekate Soteira by Sarah Iles Johnston
The Rotting Goddess by Jacob Rabinowitz
Hekate in Ancient Greek Religion by Robert Von Rudloff
Crossroads by Greg Crowfoot "
both of the S.I Johnston books mentioned in this thread ('Soteira' ,and 'Restless Dead') are wonderful!
von Rudloff is good, although i found him to be a bit timid.
Rabinowitz had a few things in it that i found very useful, but unfortunately he falls into the trap of creating a theory and then finding only the evidence that supports it. bad scholarship imo, but probably worth getting if you can find it used and cheap.
unfortunately i found the Crowfoot book to be little more than neoPagan revisionism, and as such was of no use to me at all.
the Ronan book i've never been able to find in my price range, so i can't give an opinion yet (and i can hear the relief from here... lol)
all just my opinion, ymmv.
however there is one book that eveyone devoted to Our Lady of Zerynthos must read, and that is 'The Cults of the Greek States, Part 2', by L.R Farnell, which devotes an entire chapter to the ancient worship of Hekate, as well as a related chapter on Artemis (hard to study one without the other).
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Hekate gets her powers...
Wed, January 18, 2006 - 5:08 PMpassage from Hesiod describing the dominion of Hekate over gods and men, throughout the three worlds.
"Phoebe received Coeus' passionate embraces; God and Goddess united in love, and she conceived and bore Leto, the Goddess with the azure robe - Leto always mild, mild from the day she was born, the gentlest of all on Olympus, kind to men and to Gods. She also bore Asteria, honored name, whom Perses took to his great house to be his wedded wife. Asteria conceived and gave birth to Hecate, whom Zeus the son of Cronus exalted above all with honors. He gave her fine gifts: he assigned to her rights both in the earth and in the barren sea, and the immortal Gods honor her greatly. To this day men on earth call on Hecate whenever they wish to make propitiation with the rich sacrificial offerings which the law commands. The man whose prayer is favorably received by the Goddess acquires great honor and wealth with ease. Such is the power of Hecate; she has a share in the rights and privileges of every one of the Gods born of Earth and Sky. Nor did Zeus forcibly deprive her of the properties she had received at the hands of the earlier generation of the Gods, the Titans; she still retains rights on earth and in the sky and on the sea, as assigned in the beginning by the first division of powers. Nor is her rank diminished because she is the only child of her mother; rather it is increased because Zeus honors her. She greatly aids and blesses her favorites: she sits beside kings in the judgement seat to give them majesty, and in the assembly of the people her favorite is conspicuous. When men put on their armor and make themselves ready for war, which destroys so many, Hecate with her generous aid enables her favorites to win victory and obtain glory. The Goddess can if she wishes help bless a contestant in the games: his strength and vigor win an easy victory and he happily carries home a fine prize and brings honor on his parents. And when men who work on the dark and treacherous sea pray to Hecate and to Poseidon, the God whose mighty blows make the earth quake, the great Goddess can easily give them a plentiful catch; or, if she wishes, she can easily take it away from before their eyes. Along with Hermes, she has the power to make the animals on the farm multiply: if she wishes she can make cattleherds and flocks of mountain goats and woolly sheep greatly increase or diminish. Thus hecate, though the only child of her mother, is endowed with every privilege which the Gods possess." -
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 5:09 PMsorry- Hesiod's Theogeny, Brown translation -
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 5:19 PMNo thanks necesary. All in service to the Triple Bitch Queen of Hell.
En Erebos, Phos~
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 5:38 PMWell, now let's get technical...
Persephone is the Queen of Hades.
Hmmm, I thought "Triple Bitch Queen of Hell" was what they called Katherine Harris. ;-) -
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 6:18 PM"powerful in heaven and hell alike...."
Well, now if you expand Hell (which I guess is a modernization of Hades, but more properly applies to the Germanic Nifleheim and the christian concept of ternal damnation, lake of fire, kingdom of the Fallen Angels ruled by Satan) to include the whole conceptual structures of the afterlife, and follow the Hekatean stream through and beyond the greco-roman worldview- she becomes most definitely the Queen of Hell, Heaven, and all in between. Even in the written greek accounts- Hekate is granted DOMINION over all three worlds by Zeus himself- including the kingdoms of Hades. She is Queen and Ruler by default. She is a Titaness and one of the few honored by the Olympians.
The Homeric Hymn to Demeter calls Hekate the 'preceder' and 'follower' of Persephone. Being equated with the Cosmic Soul of the Universe, present at all births and deaths, and mediator between First and Second Fire and the Earth in the Chaldean Oracles, and in the Greek Magical Papyri refered to as Triple Hekate: Selene, Artemis, Persephone (ah.... syncretization).... I guess it all depends on who is attached to whom and at what point in history we are debating.
Persephone is Queen of Hades. Hekate is Queen of the Hell of Existence and the prisons of the flesh, bequeathed power over the three realms by the God, and all respect to Persephone, but Hekate, Enodia, Trivia.... Oi.
As for Katherine Harris... well. I'm not moving to Florida any time soon... Lets not equate bitch with Bitch Queen Whose Howl Shakes the Universe..... but I understand the resemblance...
Four pomegranate seeds, a fish, a loaf of bread, and eggs for thee,
J
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 6:24 PMIndeed, Hekate has dominion over all the Realms. She can pass from Earth to the Underworld and back... and visit Olympos as well. But, Persephone is Queen of the Underworld specifically. I agree with you! ;-)
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Re: Caelo Ereboque potens...
Wed, January 18, 2006 - 6:34 PMOkay, I'll concede. You know how it is with cultic devotions- you place your patron over EVERYONE else... but Persephone's a good gal, never done me wrong.
And I most heartedly agree that Tartaros would be the ancient equivalent of what he now know as Hell.
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Wed, January 18, 2006 - 6:38 PMYeah, I just got that ancestral tie with Persephone, so I have to defend her royalty LOL. But, Hekate deserves all that praise you give!
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Sun, January 22, 2006 - 9:15 PMA little side note: Anyone take notice that theoi.com looks to be out of commission? -
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Sun, January 22, 2006 - 10:20 PMYes, Tim! This was pointed out to me not too long after I posted all those links/deity threads, either here or on the Silvanus tribe. That is such a great site, so I hope they get it back online soon. Have you seen it before?
In the meantime, if anyone wants to add other links or written info or thoughts in these threads, they should feel free to contribute!
Thanks,
Badger
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Mon, January 23, 2006 - 9:56 PMDoesn't show for me yet. Backing out to www.theoi.com it asks for an administrator password... -
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Mon, January 23, 2006 - 10:24 PMYup, Rory, I got that too. Sorry! -
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Sat, February 18, 2006 - 8:29 AMThoi is back up now.
Jesse mentioned four books regarding Hekate. Crossroads by Greg Crowfoot looks interesting... thanks!
Sarah Iles Johnston also authored Restless Dead: Encounters Between the Living and the Dead in Ancient Greece, which, from the reviews I have read, is pertinent to the study of Hekate, as there is an entire chapter devoted to her.
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Sat, February 18, 2006 - 8:30 AMTHANKS!!! I am so glad that site is back up. Thanks for all your suggestions as well. Welcome to the Chthonia tribe!
Badger
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Mon, February 27, 2006 - 7:39 AMGreat recommdation on Restless Dead. I had heard of it, but never picked up a copy. Maybe its time I do.....
Cthnoically,
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Thu, March 2, 2006 - 7:51 AMOff and on... I try. The minute I'm back on for good... you'll be the first to know, Badger!
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Sun, October 15, 2006 - 12:50 AMdoes anyone have any good sources for Hekate being Hittite in origin other than Rabinowitz)?
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Mon, January 29, 2007 - 8:07 PM