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I've always been a fan of Dmitri Shostakovich and thought it may be interesting to see what, if any, of his works you enjoy. He wrote so much great music I don't really know where to begin other than just jumping right in with my own favorite works.
For some reason I adore the second Cello concerto so much more than the famous first. I think it is due the playful dialog between cello, percussion and orchestra and in particular the last movement. From what I understand it is not a very difficult work and Cellists would rather perform the first concerto for that reason alone. I’ve several recordings all of with their own merits. Of the recordings I like the original Rostropovich which I believe he did with the Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra, composer conducting, simply because his link to the composer and the music shines through. That one was on vinyl and has not seen a reproduction on disc yet. On CD the old DG of Rostropovich and Seiji Ozawa is great fun and has the added bonus of being coupled with the Tchaikovsky 'Andante cantabile' and Glazunov's 'Chant du menestrel' both of which are charmers. Schiff does a good job on the Philips label but for my money the disc on Naxos is an excellent coupling both concertos and played quite respectably by Maria Kleigel. With back up by the Polish National Radio Symphony with Antoni Wit at the baton this is a sure winner at any price.
So you can see I’m quite a fan having so many copies of just this one concerto. What pieces or recordings do you like and would recommend?
For some reason I adore the second Cello concerto so much more than the famous first. I think it is due the playful dialog between cello, percussion and orchestra and in particular the last movement. From what I understand it is not a very difficult work and Cellists would rather perform the first concerto for that reason alone. I’ve several recordings all of with their own merits. Of the recordings I like the original Rostropovich which I believe he did with the Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra, composer conducting, simply because his link to the composer and the music shines through. That one was on vinyl and has not seen a reproduction on disc yet. On CD the old DG of Rostropovich and Seiji Ozawa is great fun and has the added bonus of being coupled with the Tchaikovsky 'Andante cantabile' and Glazunov's 'Chant du menestrel' both of which are charmers. Schiff does a good job on the Philips label but for my money the disc on Naxos is an excellent coupling both concertos and played quite respectably by Maria Kleigel. With back up by the Polish National Radio Symphony with Antoni Wit at the baton this is a sure winner at any price.
So you can see I’m quite a fan having so many copies of just this one concerto. What pieces or recordings do you like and would recommend?
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Re: Dmitri Shostakovich (1906-1975)
Thu, February 16, 2006 - 12:08 AM"For some reason I adore the second Cello concerto so much more than the famous first...Of the recordings I like the original Rostropovich which I believe he did with the Moscow Radio Symphony Orchestra, composer conducting, simply because his link to the composer and the music shines through. That one was on vinyl and has not seen a reproduction on disc yet."
While it's not the recording with the composer conducting that you mention, I just noticed that Yedang Classics has released a CD of Rostropovich playing both Shostakovich Cello Concertos in a 1965 performance with the Moscow Philharmonic Orchestra conducted by David Oistrakh. Daedalus Music has it for $5.98: www.daedalusbooks.com/Product...tail.asp
The also have a recording of Shostakovich playing his Piano Concertos 1 and 2; the Concertino for Two Pianos (with son Maxim) and his Piano Trio (with David Oistrakh and Milos Sadlo) www.daedalusbooks.com/Product...tail.asp
Also $5.98. Both are definitely worth looking into at that price.
My own favorite works by Shostakovich are probably his string quartets. While they don't quite reach the heights of Bartok's peerless quartets (only Beethoven surpasses Bartok in this format for me), they are certainly among the greatest written in the 20th century; they're also a great deal more "approachable" musically than Bartok, although their emotional tone can be extremely bleak (I find I can't generally listen to more than a couple of the later quartets consecutively.) Since these quartets are such an important part of the repertoire just about every string quartet out there has recorded at least one of them and I don't have any overall favorites for the whole series, but would probably recommend the Borodin Quartet to someone just discovering these, as they worked closely with the composer during his lifetime and remain deeply devoted to his work long after his death.
Other chamber works I like include the justly famous Piano Quintet , the Trio No. 2 for piano, violin and cello Op. 67, and the beautiful Sonata for cello and piano, Op. 40
Aside from his opera, 'Lady Macbeth of Mtensk', Shostakovich' vocal music isn't really all that well known. A shame since most of it is truly fine. I really like the Suite on Words of Michelangelo for bass and orchestra Op 145a, composed in 1974, only a year before Shostakovish' death. Michelangelo's sonnets on time, mortality, art and the artist's place in the world obviously had a deep personal meaning for Shostakovich and the composer's settings are majestic, dark-hued, bitter and very powerful. Other great Shostakovich song cycles are 'The Six Romances to Verses by English Poets' and the 'Six Poems by Marina Tsvetayeva'. The Delos label released the final volume of its Complete Songs of Shostakovich series last year. I haven't had a chance to acquire or hear these recordings yet, but the idea of a complete series (five volumes) is an exciting one. -
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Thu, February 16, 2006 - 9:43 AMThanks! I will indeed be getting the disc. I actually have the other you've mentioned of the piano concertos and trio, which is a fine recording. The violin concertos are exceptional works of the 20th century but a bit heavier in weight compared to the rest on whole.
As for the chamber music I couldn't agree more. I do love a few of the quartets but Bartok does dominate that particular field en large. I think what sets the Bartok aside is the shear quality of all six. I would also like to mention the great quartets of Martinu, Villalobos and the amazing additions by Rochberg. Each of the other composers mentioned has a few that shine, but the consistency is not there as in the Bartok. Personally I like the folk based quartets of all. Use of such base material give the mind a basis in which to springboard 20th century techniques, and thus is more readily consumed. Not that I mind other usage of modern techniques, this is just what I find most satisfying a foil. So for Shostokovich the works such the second trio, the piano quintet and if I'm not mistaken the fifth of the quartets quite easily please me. The Borodin recordings I agree are excellent and overall the best complete set available.
I'm curious which of the Symphonies you like Marie Therese? I've been lately infatuated with the old Stokowski recordings of the fifth and sixth. They aren't my favorites among his symphonies but the recording itself is interesting.
And how could we forget the Preludes and Fugues? Other than the Bach and Castelnuevo-Tedesco (two guitars) I don’t recall any other complete sets. I enjoy his 20th century Russian spin on things.
And the wonderful film music and ballet music! Gosh, I could run on all day about his music simply because of the volume alone. That is one of the greatest things about Shostokovich though, the quality of composition considering the volume, is quite astounding. -
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Fri, February 17, 2006 - 8:47 PMI ordered a copy of the Rostropovich/Oistrakh cello concertos disc too! Also the two piano concertos and the trio with the composer on piano. We can compare notes later.
"I'm curious which of the Symphonies you like Marie Therese? I've been lately infatuated with the old Stokowski recordings of the fifth and sixth. They aren't my favorites among his symphonies but the recording itself is interesting."
I haven't heard the Stowkowski recordings-may have to check those out. I've liked the relatively recent recordings of the Shostakovich symphonies by Simon Rattle. I think he has a good grasp on Shostakovich's general style but also manages to keep the bombast (and some of the symphonies, Nos. 7 and 14 for instance, really are terribly bombastic!) to a minimum. I'm not a huge fan of the orchestral symphonic form in general though (it took me nearly two decades to appreciate symphonic literature beyond Beethoven), so I'm probably not the best person to ask!
I do like the ballet and film music a lot though. So witty! And joyfully, unselfconsciously "low-brow".
Since we're on the subject of Shostakovich, I thought I'd post this link to an interesting article from January of this year in The Guardian: books.guardian.co.uk/review/...,00.html The author's comparison of Shostakovich' s reputation with Tchaikovsky's in an earlier era is interesting and, I think, pretty apt. I think these paragraphs (edited for brevity) are quite fascinating:
"At the heart of both Tchaikovsky's and Shostakovich's music is superlative technique and fluency, coupled with a pronounced fondness for mixing highbrow contexts, ideas and tunes with a sometimes startlingly lowbrow flavour...This combination of highbrow and kitsch is not theirs alone, of course. Many composers have joined in the fun, including Mozart, Schubert and Mahler. But Tchaikovsky and Shostakovich certainly shared a particularly distinctive addiction to brazen melodrama. In Tchaikovsky's case, this is rooted in his love of the popular boulevard operas of his day; Shostakovich looked to the equivalent artform in his own time, cinema. Their fondness for such material is often counterbalanced by suggestions of scorn, evasion or frustration.
There is an exhilarating element of playfulness at work here, but it also raises darker questions. If Stravinsky was right when he declared that taste was a moral category, then the play with vulgarity of both Tchaikovsky (whom Stravinsky loved) and Shostakovich (whom he did not) poses questions about their artistic honesty. Some listeners - myself included - find such ambiguity fascinating. Others are repelled. Nowadays, Tchaikovsky's reputation is probably faring better in this respect than Shostakovich's, mainly because he lived longer ago. The extraordinary repugnance shown towards Tchaikovsky's music by earlier commentators, usually increased by their prejudice against his homosexuality, has begun to slip away. Little by little...we have learned to see his vast, protean, endlessly unpredictable talent as something in itself, not flawless, not immune to serious critical thought, but the product of what we should have the courage to call genius. The research of scholars and musicologists in recent years has greatly helped to bring us closer to his music.
Unfortunately, with Shostakovich, the heavy work of clearing the scholarly undergrowth is only just beginning..."
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Re: Dmitri Shostakovich (1906-1975)
Sat, February 18, 2006 - 7:37 AMShostakovich kicks ass. -
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Tue, February 28, 2006 - 3:12 PMHeck YES! -
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Tue, February 28, 2006 - 9:14 PMDoes anyone else like his preludes and fugues? They are some of the most successful 20th century ventures into this genre. -
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Wed, March 1, 2006 - 5:41 PMsteve,Am off to hear shostakovich,use the link: www.adelaidefestival.com.au/prog....aspx -
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Thu, March 2, 2006 - 11:53 AMLucky you two to have it live.
I was thinking how unfamiliar I am with contemporary Russian composers and found a great link. Aside from the music of Gubaidulina and Part it remains relatively unknown to me, which is a sad. Please forgive my source for the article on Gubaidulina, but I did find it well written and informative. The Naxos disc of her 'Seven Words' etc. is quite moving for those interested; besides, how many times do you get to hear a bayan? Also I ran across the music of Oleg Paiberdin, who is unlisted on the link, but I liked.
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Mon, March 6, 2006 - 10:48 AMI felt I needed to mention for those that didn't know it, that the Grammy winning Orchestral Performance in 06 was the Shostakovich: 'Symphony No. 13' with Mariss Jansons, conductor (Sergei Aleksashkin, Bavarian Radio Symphony Orchestra and Chorus).
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Sun, March 12, 2006 - 7:14 PMJansons has turned out to be the most perceptive of Shostakovich interpreters. His most recent release - of the Second and Twelfth with the wonderful Bavarian RSO - is one of those recordings of relatively unknown Shostakovich symphonies that makes one hear these works afresh, and without the bombast of usual adverse criticism. I haven't been so impressed by a Twelfth since Boult did one with the BBCSO many years ago.
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Sun, March 12, 2006 - 8:43 PMI've such a mixed bag of conductors doing the Symphonies, much as my Mahler and Bruchner collections, each chosen with care. I had started on the Shostokovich ages ago and have only two of the Jansons discs, the 7th and the 6th/9th recordings, both worth the price of admission and then some.
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Mon, March 13, 2006 - 12:18 AMHi Steve. No, we haven't discussed Classical Grammy winners from the past. We're still a relatively new tribe, so please feel free to kick off a thread on the subject! Other classical awards worth mentioning are the Classical Brit awards. -
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Re: Dmitri Shostakovich (1906-1975)
Mon, March 13, 2006 - 11:13 AMI kept meaning to post this bit I recalled from the ‘Landowska on Music’ book which I’ve always found amusing. Her opinions to me seem quaint and quite predictable coming from a specialist in French and early music. I’ve often wondered which of the symphonies she had heard prior to writing this.
~ After hearing a symphony by Shostakovich
This music is of undeniable vulgarity. Therefore it is impossible for me to like it, even less to judge it.
Shostakovich certainly has the sense of rhythm. But why these unsuccessful attempts at being grotesque, at humor?
The frame is apparent and rough; it is like the wood used for crating furniture. There is no mystery in this music, but at least it is honest, and I prefer that to mystificators with empty bellies. -
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Mon, March 13, 2006 - 2:35 PMSteve : I am off to the Shostakovich tonight, should I take into account this persons critique, or perhaps just listen for myself? I lean to the latter actually.Van Gogh didn't sell anything once,did she do the crits? -
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Mon, March 13, 2006 - 10:17 PMWanda Landowska was a famous early music revivalist, specializing on the Harpsichord. She is what could be considered the modern pioneer of the instrument, much like Segovia on the classical guitar. She did partake of modern music; with Poulenc and DeFalla both having written concertos for her. I personally love Shostakovich and just thought her point of view interesting given the distance in years. Her personal notes were collected and bound into the volume mentioned and the snippet comes from a chapter titled 'Thoughts on Modern Music'. She was born in 1879 so you can quite imagine the changes she heard growing up in the music field. Shostakovich must have sounded extreme to her at the time.
Of her recordings my favorite are the Scarlatti sonatas; you can hear the Nazis bombing England in the background on one of them. Strangest thing is she didn’t miss a single beat when that happened and the bomb explosions actually seem in tempo. Most famous for her Bach recordings, to modern ears the Harpsichord she played on sounds completely overblown and you don’t get all the repeats due to the recording methods at the time.
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Mon, March 13, 2006 - 10:26 PM"But why these unsuccessful attempts at being grotesque, at humor?" It's no wonder Landowska couldn't grasp the wry satire in Shostakovich's music, not having lived under the thumb of Stalin herself. Must have been very strange and interesting times musically.
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Mon, March 16, 2009 - 7:36 AMMy grand father's half-sister (b1862 - d 1934), and a violinist with the Boston Symphony, said in her diaries that Landowska was a "sick in the mud, who wouldn't know good modern music if it hit her in the head."
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Re: Dmitri Shostakovich (1906-1975)
Wed, March 22, 2006 - 10:03 AMBeing new here...Hi All!
I've always been a big fan of Shostakovich, especially his symphonies. Though many were written for others to feel good about their war, his music reflect his times and conditions.
Maybe not at the top of my list, at least well above the midway point.
jazz
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Re: Dmitri Shostakovich (1906-1975)
Wed, June 21, 2006 - 12:19 PMI love lots of his music but couldn't live without the quartets. Another favorite is the Trio No. 2 Opus 67. There's a nice recording of it with a cello sonata on CBS. Shostakovch balanced so many qualities beautifully - modernism & tradition, classical & romantic, accessibility & sophistication - under the most horrible of circumstances. One of my 20th century heroes.
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Mon, March 16, 2009 - 7:10 AMHi Steve,
I have just joined the tribe and discovered your posting.
Still love DSCH ?
Have new acquisitions of his Cello concertos CDs ?
Meanwhile I'm doing a survey on his Op. 107.
So I took out my collections and buy some more. But I still don't have everything.
I only have the following :
Maria Kleigel/ Wit , as you mentioned.
Tortelier/ Berglund (EMI)
Ma/ Ormandy (Sony)
Schiff/Maxim Shostakovich (Philips)
Gutman/Kondrashin (my favourite) [Live Classic]
Maisky/ MTT/ DG
Hanna Chang/ Pappano (EMI)
Bailey/Martin West/ Telarc (the latest recording so far-2007)
D. Mueller-Schott/ Kreizberg/ Orfeo
Sadlo/ Czech Phil./ Ancerl/ Supraphon
Rostro / Ormandy (the premiere recording made in 1959)
Rostro/ Rozhdestvensky (EMI - the Russian Years), rec 1961
Rostro / C. Groves (EMI DVD, also 1961)
Rostro/ Oistrakh (1965)
Rostro / Svetlanov (66)
Rostro / Ozawa (87)
I listened to Turl Mork's. But too 'cool' (or cold) for my taste so I don't bother to keep it.
What else do you have, Steve ?
Regards
Savio