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I came across this site while exploring the wikipedia nuclear test listing. I think it belongs here in Conspiracy because of the haphazard manner in which nuclear weapons have been used, with little concern for those who have to live with the aftereffects.
www.downwinders.org/
about us:
Downwinders is a research and educational foundation started by former downwind resident of southwest Utah, and formally established in 1978 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Downwinders takes its name from the residents living in the prevailing wind pattern surrounding the Nevada Test Site, and who have been constantly exposed to radioactive fallout from America's nuclear testing activities conducted there. Downwinders was founded with two primary goals:
* To expose the plight of downwind residents whose fallout exposures have caused cancers, leukemia, and other illnesses, and to obtain justice for their injuries.
* To fight for an immediate end to all nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site and elsewhere.
Since its founding Downwinders has expanded its efforts to other nuclear, military, and environmental projects and issues where the health and safety of residents surrounding them have been placed at risk. Over the years these have included such problems as chemical and biological weapons research and testing at the Dugway Proving Ground. Other issues of concern are high and low-level nuclear waste, uranium mining, milling and tailings disposal, phosphate mining and wastes, groundwater issues, land and air space grabs by the military, and military toxics. Downwinders has also expanded its scope of operations from regional work confined to the Great Basin of Utah and Nevada to one of global outreach.
www.downwinders.org/
about us:
Downwinders is a research and educational foundation started by former downwind resident of southwest Utah, and formally established in 1978 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Downwinders takes its name from the residents living in the prevailing wind pattern surrounding the Nevada Test Site, and who have been constantly exposed to radioactive fallout from America's nuclear testing activities conducted there. Downwinders was founded with two primary goals:
* To expose the plight of downwind residents whose fallout exposures have caused cancers, leukemia, and other illnesses, and to obtain justice for their injuries.
* To fight for an immediate end to all nuclear testing at the Nevada Test Site and elsewhere.
Since its founding Downwinders has expanded its efforts to other nuclear, military, and environmental projects and issues where the health and safety of residents surrounding them have been placed at risk. Over the years these have included such problems as chemical and biological weapons research and testing at the Dugway Proving Ground. Other issues of concern are high and low-level nuclear waste, uranium mining, milling and tailings disposal, phosphate mining and wastes, groundwater issues, land and air space grabs by the military, and military toxics. Downwinders has also expanded its scope of operations from regional work confined to the Great Basin of Utah and Nevada to one of global outreach.
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Sun, March 18, 2007 - 7:44 PMLots of content. I love it! Thank you for the link. I have been against atomic energy and weapons since I first became aware of such horrors. I was once on a plane sitting next to a scientist (supposedly) that worked at Lawrence Livermore Lab about 5 miles down the road from me. He was totally defending it all as harmless. He basically dismissed my concerns and told me there was alot of propaganda that has proliferated about the whole subject. I couldnt believe how straight faced he was telling me the things he was saying. It was really interesting to say the least. I wanted to remain civil so didnt push the issue too much. But I couldnt help thinking how as far as I'm concerned, HE is the one that has been brainwashed with propaganda. It's scarey to think how many other people think like him too.
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Sun, March 18, 2007 - 9:18 PMMy S.O. temp'd at Hanford...while preggers...
I'm hear to tell you the offspring was Evile.......
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 4:55 PMYeah, there's lots of Hanford downwinders I know. Farmers, construction workers, even little kids who were outside a lot were the most affected, although symptoms show up in other residents too. My mom's family is from that area, so I never trust nukes.
So now on the news there was this story last week about how nuclear energy is "green"? Give me a break. This nuclear engineering prof at UC Berkeley was going on about how nuclear energy is much safer now than it was just 20 years ago. I wish it were true, my friends, but that is one big meatball. I can't wait until these engineers start touting "green" fission reactors to countries that want to do the right thing and we have another Chernobyl or Three-Mile. -
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 6:41 PMChernobyl is still a wasteland. I know a few Russian and people from another country I cant think of at the moment that moved because their familes where between 250 and 500 miles away and they wanted to get as far away from there as possible. I read a pretty interesting story months ago in either Spin or Roling Stone. Pretty trippy shit. There are peole that work on site in a visitors center and people actually visit the site. But the surrounding area is like a ghost town. Hardly any inhabitants. They talked about an old stubborn couple that says they had lived their whole lives their and will live there till they die. -
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 7:46 PMYeah. anybody can tell you that (horror stories from Chernobyl), and yet we are supposed to believe that all nuclear plants, worldwide, follow 100% up-to-date protocols, have all the money they need for upgrades and sabotage-proofing, and we are all happy with this clean energy? Kinda Howdy Doody, no thanks.
I looked for an article online and didn't find anything from RS or Spin. Any other info, Marvin? -
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Tue, March 20, 2007 - 11:15 PMIt may have been Blender magazine? : ) -
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Wed, March 21, 2007 - 12:27 AMtribes.tribe.net/hoaxorrea...6f74e87b90
this was fairly interesting to go through... definitely makes me wary of nuclear power.
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Thu, March 22, 2007 - 12:28 AM"former downwind resident of southwest Utah, and formally established in 1978 in Salt Lake City, Utah. Down-winders takes its name from the residents living in the prevailing wind pattern surrounding the Nevada Test Site"
Having lived on the Nevada, Arizona and Utah borders for ten years we became acutely aware of the problems living down wind from the test site... They had articles in the local papers about high rates of cancers and birth defects... Even had warning about wind blowing dust that still was hot with radiation, plus valley fever... Many thought the Valley fever warning was just a cover up for the radiation...
Indian Springs, Nevada is the western gate to the test site, in the fifties and early sixties you could see the top of the mushroom clouds over the top of the mountains... My family use to make a yearly trip to Idaho to drop me off at my uncle's place and we would stop for a meal in the town (little tiny burg then and now). Two times we saw and felt the blast from above ground tests, many years later I lived and worked in Las Vegas and the whole town would shake from the underground tests... Scary stuff to be around...
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 12:23 AMwww.columbiatribune.com/news/2...ne-man/
On the Fourth of July weekend of 1957, Darrell Robertson was on a train from Fort Lewis, Wash., to southern Nevada. He was one of hundreds of young men with orders in hand to take part in a training exercise that they were told was crucial to the fight against communism.
The native of Lamar was headed deep into the burnt landscape of the Mojave Desert, to a place called Camp Desert Rock. There, between 1945 and 1958, the U.S. military conducted 106 atmospheric nuclear tests.
At the time, Robertson said, military brass believed a nuclear confrontation with the Soviets was likely. They were intent on developing a group of troops hardened by repeated exposure to radiation. They thought exposure to radiation was like sunning on the beach: First you burn, then you tan.
“Today, you think, ‘How would you ever harden troops to that?’ ” Robertson said in an interview this week at the Tribune. “It’s not something that you can become accustomed to or environmentally be exposed to and continue to go on. That’s just not a fact. But see, they didn’t know that then.” -
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Fri, June 12, 2009 - 11:06 AMWe're all downinders if you want to think about it. Radiation has been falling out of the upper atmosphere since the beginning of the madness. It's been raining down worldwide ever since. Then add in the toxic chemical stew that is spread throughout the world we all live and breath and eat and drink.
When I was a baby playing in the water and sand of Ocean Beach San Diego in the 50s the Navy was lighting off nuclear depth charges 300 miles off the coast. Ocean drift of course brought the residue right into the SoCal coastline. Oops.
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Re: Downwinders Set Sail~
Sun, June 14, 2009 - 10:33 AMWhen Chernobyl happened, I remember reading that Deer as far north as Sweden were effected from the radiation.. ie, their offspring that year were in trouble, and their milk was spoiled.
The wind went around the world...
I remember hearing on an "Orb" song, a sample of a British sounding preacher.. saying "you know what Chernobyl means in Russian? WORMWOOD!!"
The bar code is 666
This would be amazing if Freemasons hadn't gotten ahold of the King James Bible, and planted these prophesies.
To watch them open up seals, one by one, is annoying.
But... what if Freemasons didn't in fact splice in a plan... But faithfully translated John the Revelator's visions?
Well, we still don't have to sit back and let ignorance and rebellion against the Golden Rule take over!
We are on a sinking ship some would say... To paint the deck is futile...
This is the taste of Puritanical Ignorance I was fed as a child...
I say, Let us Raise in our world, a new Heaven, and Forget waiting on some mysterious "Second Coming"
We are the Crux of it. Sacrifice our greed on the pyre
We have in us, the knowledge and voice, speaking gently and calmly, "follow the code"
All it takes is a collaborative vision of how to live without greed.
IF you notice all humans, when void of empire and colonizers, will live as Nomads then you have realized what we forgot. -
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Re: Downwinders Set Sail~
Sun, June 14, 2009 - 3:04 PMI just have a real hard time seeing 7,000,000,000 nomads stumbling around the planet trying to find enough to eat...and there being enough!
Actually, I think we as a species are "over the hump" so to speak on survival. We've just done too damn much damage to the planetary ecosystem and our own genetic code in the last 60 years or so. Amazing how quickly the poisons were invented during and since WWII and spread worldwide... Read a recent study of newborns, from hospitals in NYC to dirt shacks in Idaho, that showed EVERY baby had at least 250 man-made toxic chemicals in their bodies at birth. Mutagens, hormone disruptors and mimics, cancer-causing, just an incredibly toxic stew just in our own bodies...
Then throw in everything else from resource depletion to catasrophic climate collapse (which is what the science boyz are trying to tell us but nobody is listening because "climate change" sounds so peaceful) and just where the fuck do we go from here? Big sigh.
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Re: Downwinders Set Sail~
Mon, June 15, 2009 - 6:30 AMI forgot to mention... Your right, if all 7 billion (in maybe 2 yearS?) people were nomads, then yeh. that would be crazy..
but, to sum up years of my thoughts: I started wondering what society would be like if 50% of people lived in giant arcologies....
Which only take up 1/5th the footprint of stupid cities... (in other words, all of Chicago could fit into a self relatively self sustaining arcology 1/10th the footprint of currently sprawled city)...
well, ideally, we would have these wonderfully designed arcologies that make up the ant hills which emerge at varied distances amongst the wild and sometimes cultivated nature. Through which, the other 50% wonder as nomads.
This is the key, that we start living in smarter cities.
we currently don't see that we are dealing with living creatures, (cities) and because we do not understand this, our cities are not healthy, nor balanced in most cases.
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