Sheepleherder

topic posted Sat, July 26, 2008 - 2:22 PM by  Mr. M
sheepleherder.wordpress.com/

Is Big Brother preparing for your death?

I dont understand why coffins are necessary when cremation and acid liquification and instant zapping "dehydration" are so much more efficient?
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Mr. M
SF Bay Area
  • Re: Sheepleherder

    Sat, July 26, 2008 - 4:18 PM
    scary, and frustrating, it is scary, but when I see all these boxes, I want clear simple logical statements based on research.
    listening to alex scream and holler only makes me uneasy, not scared, because I get frustrated and want him to demonstrate that he researched this two head lizard, and determined in fact that these aren't meant for shipping cows to japan.
    • Re: Sheepleherder

      Sat, July 26, 2008 - 8:28 PM
      Theyre for cows? Really? What a trip.

      I hate at the end how he starts yelling. It's like he's being all sensationalistic like an announcer for WWF wrestling or like those commercials on the Mexican radio stations where everything is being yelled. It's funny when they do it. When Alex does it it's like finger nails on a chalkboard.
      • Re: Sheepleherder

        Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:33 PM
        I don't know what they're for, but I don't think I'm going to find out with Alex, which is a shame, if he is on to something. He just yells, and expects logical proof to wait. I will have to see if I can hear through it..
      • Re: Sheepleherder

        Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:37 PM
        ok, theyr'e coffins, but, he disagrees that they are for bio threats, like the plaque.
        he says if there is a plague that it would be made by the government.
        I just don't know what to think/do?! If it is the gov, where are they going to go to avoid getting sick?
      • Re: Sheepleherder

        Sun, July 27, 2008 - 1:50 PM
        why in the world are you posting links to that blog? That's one of the more racist and homophobic romps I've taken on the interwebs in some time...
        • Re: Sheepleherder

          Sun, July 27, 2008 - 2:24 PM
          Underground bases Shadoan.

          j3r3my I didnt know he was racist? Is he really? Why do you say so? I figure he's homophobic if he's Christian though. I think it's interesting anyway though. I'm not going to not post something just because the person or organization may be racist or homophobic though. Like the John Birch Society for example. Posting things is like having a conversation in person. I'm not going to not talk about something because it may be un-pc to some people. Like some people that won't even discuss racism because they think if you do it means youre a racist and that other people will think youre a racist if you do. Like how some straight homophobic guys won't even discuss homosexuality because they are worried what other people might think of them. It's totally stupid. Like talking about gay shit automatically means youre a fag. That's redickulous!!! I think it's cool when straight guys talk about homosexuality. If theyre not being derogatory. I think it's good when people discuss racism too.

          Look at me goin' off on a tangent and I havent even been drinking. Yay. Happy sunday yall.
          • Re: Sheepleherder

            Sun, July 27, 2008 - 11:25 PM
            Maybe Alex's ratings go up when he's engaged in his S/M style rant? I didn't listen to the whole thing.... I believe there's some evil stuff going on but I just can't take him seriously anymore.

            It's kind of funny when the right is so far right that they are almost like radical left wingers from the 60's...

            I'm getting kind of tired of all this fear mongering. Someone I know always says "Great, let them blow up the world (release bio-warfare disease, etc.). At least I won't have to pay back my student loan...".
            • Re: Sheepleherder

              Mon, July 28, 2008 - 6:43 AM
              His sensationalis does come off like he's an announcer at a tractor pull or smash up derby or something. I still listen here and there though. I doubt anyone could tell him to consider changing his approach. I'm sure he thinks the weight of the subjects warrant his approach.

              Yeah. If I didnt have to pay back VISA thatwould be great. Fuck Chase. lol
              • Re: Sheepleherder

                Mon, July 28, 2008 - 9:43 AM
                well, look at it this way. if things get so bad, that all his predictions are coming true, he either needs to get a lot of friends with protection, or lay low.
                I say, start angry, quiet, and when powerful enough, make change. not so quiet that you don't protest, but not so loud you draw unwarranted attention.

                this brings me to a question, why throw a molotov coctail at the police, when you don't come armed to fight back if that is what you want?
                I think a lot of violence at protest is the police disquised as civilians. Thus, when civilians do protest, it will nOT be televised, as it will be actually violent, rather than a bitch slap.
                • Re: Sheepleherder

                  Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:15 AM
                  "well, look at it this way. if things get so bad, that all his predictions are coming true, he either needs to get a lot of friends with protection, or lay low.
                  I say, start angry, quiet, and when powerful enough, make change. not so quiet that you don't protest, but not so loud you draw unwarranted attention."

                  I often wondered if he wasn't a disinfo agent and what he said was true, why isn't he dead yet? I mean in his world they kill people all the time for knowing too much, including US presidents... this means he doesn't know enough and his signal to noise ratio is too high....

                  "this brings me to a question, why throw a molotov coctail at the police, when you don't come armed to fight back if that is what you want?
                  I think a lot of violence at protest is the police disquised as civilians. Thus, when civilians do protest, it will nOT be televised, as it will be actually violent, rather than a bitch slap."

                  with the large number of documented cases of the FBI planting people to cause conflicts and unrest, this rings frighteningly true.
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                    Re: Sheepleherder

                    Mon, July 28, 2008 - 8:36 PM
                    I'm not even sure if I ever heard of the Sheepleherder before I posted this. I just saw the Alex Jones video and that's the main reason I posted it. I'm a white faggot and not racist. : ) If this guy is I'm most def not down with that shit yo.
                    • Re: Sheepleherder

                      Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:53 PM
                      re: with the large number of documented cases of the FBI planting people to cause conflicts and unrest, this rings frighteningly true.

                      Agent provocateur (re: Jones)... that's what William Cooper said. Look were Cooper is now...
          • Re: Sheepleherder

            Mon, July 28, 2008 - 11:11 AM
            "j3r3my I didnt know he was racist? Is he really? Why do you say so?"

            sheepleherder.wordpress.com/stuf...like/
            anyone who thinks this is amusing is racist. I hope I don't have to explain it.

            "Posting things is like having a conversation in person. I'm not going to not talk about something because it may be un-pc to some people. Like some people that won't even discuss racism because they think if you do it means youre a racist and that other people will think youre a racist if you do. Like how some straight homophobic guys won't even discuss homosexuality because they are worried what other people might think of them. It's totally stupid. Like talking about gay shit automatically means youre a fag. That's redickulous!!! I think it's cool when straight guys talk about homosexuality. If theyre not being derogatory. I think it's good when people discuss racism too."

            I think using the term faggot as a derogatory term towards people you disagree with makes you a homophobe (as the sheepleherder guy does), you may disagree, that's your call.
            First off I never suggested that there is something wrong with posting things to discuss them, I was a little shocked that you were propagating the blog of a racist homophobe, I thought it unlikely you held his views, thus I questioned if you had other reasons, maybe you just didn't read past the Alex Jones section, that's fine, that's all you had to state.
            There's a fine line of what should be left unstated because of "PC" and what should be left unstated because it makes someone look like an unevolved ape. This guy looks like an unevolved ape with a chip on his shoulder, he isn't talking about racism or addressing an issue, he is the issue.
            I talk about gay stuff all the time with my gay friends and joke about racial stuff with my black and asian friends, no one gets offended, they can call me whitey and tell me I can't dance (it's true) and we can all discuss racism and I can acknowledge the advantages I have in some situations because of what I was born, all without having to carry around white guilt about it. I guess my point was this guy isn't talking about homosexuality or racism, he's talking about sexuality and race in not very kind terms or just plain stereotyping.
            • Re: Sheepleherder

              Tue, July 29, 2008 - 2:58 AM
              I must be a horrible person because my sense of humor allows me to get a big chuckle out of both the Stuff White People Like and the Stuff Black People Like. And Marvin is going to Hell because he said fag.

              Now that that's solved.... what's next?

              You know what's considered a sin in my book? Brushing topics off without giving them due consideration. Bringing up Occam's Razor or the bullshit meter and using them incorrectly - to discredit the side with which one disagrees.

              Why even be in this tribe if one can't entertain the notion that maybe they don't know everything about everything? It's not such a bad situation to find yourself in.
              • Re: Sheepleherder

                Tue, July 29, 2008 - 6:20 AM
                I say fag all the time but then I am a fag so I don't think it's a big deal. If a non-fag uses it in a derogatory way then it's not cool. Same with the N word. Etc.... Old ass conversation hardly worthy of "debate" anymore. But I think Sparkle was referring to what was posted on that site Stick. I was surprised to see it actually.

                There is more I don't know than that which I do know. I'm not an expert on anything and most certainly don't know it all. I just enjoy sharing bits and pieces here and there that I find interesting and hearing or reading about things others are interested in. Hence, the whole being on Tribe almost every day thing. lol Luvz it!!! I'm glad you guys are here. As individuals we might not always understand how we affect others. You guys are the spice of life. You make me smile and think and other things. I'm just glad that for the most part this tribe has been pretty friendly since its creation. I'm very happy that it hasnt gone to hell in a hand basket the way some other tribes have with non stop ego battles and pointless nonproductive drama. Not that I havent participated in some of that myself. But it's not something I prefer. And usually I play a more defensive role in response to the offensive role. Often times people have seen me as the offensive role. But that's just what they want to see because they werent paying attention to the origin of the bisquit. And the crust of the bisquit is the apostrophe. : )

                And yes, I am still crazy after all these years.
                BOINK!!!
                • Re: Sheepleherder

                  Tue, July 29, 2008 - 10:16 AM
                  "Why even be in this tribe if one can't entertain the notion that maybe they don't know everything about everything? It's not such a bad situation to find yourself in."

                  if the moderator felt that people who don't provide value and troll asked those of us who are skeptical to leave I'm sure we would leave this tribe to it's own cognitive dissonance. But I grew up fascinated by conspiracies and I believe there are conspiracies around us all the time, affecting broad aspects of our lives, but I also think they tend to be fairly prosaic and mundane by most standards, which doesn't lessen the importance to me. I think it says a lot of a person's beliefs if they can't stand up to scrutiny. Keeping an open mind is important, but more important is keeping an objective mind. If I open myself up to having to believe every anecdote and story I hear, without backing of solid and testable evidence, then I have to be open to believing in a panacea of crap. Otherwise I have to admit that I am selective in my reasoning criteria and I have sacred cows that cannot be subjected to the same level of scrutiny as others. If I believe bigfoot exists on the same level of evidence as is presented for alien abductions, chupacabra, lochness monster, masonic mind control, chemtrails, hollow earth theory, flat earth theory, christianity, reptilian overlords, illuminati, one world government, the fed and world banking, mayan 2012, on and on, then what do I really believe? At some point I will have to start tossing out the contradicting theories and then I am already falling down the slippery slope.

                  It reminds me (prepare for non-sequitor) of watching the Montel Williams show back in the 90s, where he has a bunch of guests come on and talk about their odd pursuits and beliefs. He has a guy who talks in detail about chasing bigfoot and his life's work of collecting data and anecdotes (but never oddly a picture). When this guy finishes they move on to a young woman who claims to have been the product of a human/alien coupling. She says she can see the future and has psychic powers and can recognize other aliens living among us. Montel then says (I paraphrase) "Of course you know what I am going to ask you now." The audience oooohs and ahhhhs and he asks her if there any aliens in the audience. "Yes" she says. The audience gets more riled up and he asks her to identify them. To this she replies she cannot as they have asked her psychically not to... The audience erupts into laughter as they cut to commercial.
                  As the camera panned back I had to chuckle and ask myself, how bad off are you when the guy who chases bigfoot is laughing at you on tv?
                  I swore I would never be that woman.

                  and Mr. M, your ability to stray off topic and get really personal is very cool, you come off as a real person who cares and your open mindedness isn't a handicap, it's even downright entertaining at times!
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                    Re: Sheepleherder

                    Tue, July 29, 2008 - 8:48 PM
                    Thank you. I know that opening ones mouth at all for any reason pretty much opens you up to riducule. But I don't care. Tribe is for posting and I refuse to shut the fuck up. lol If noone posted there would be no content and Tribe wouldnt even exist. I do prefer quality over quantity posts but if there is a good balance of trivial light hearted fun thrown into the mix I prefer that over everything being totally serious all the time. I'm all for the serious shit. The nitty mutha fuckin' nitty grittay yo!!! But some comic relief most def lightens it a bit. Frowning is great but smiling and laughing occasionally can be therapeutic in the midst of le chaos. No matter how fucked up shit gets I still have to laugh at things. Even if there is no desire. In the deepest darkest blackness. I gotta laugh. That is one of the main things that helped many victims of genocide survive. The human spirit. Even at our lowest there will always be a tiny spark that can't be extinguished. And when it is, it won't matter anymore anyway. We will be set free and fly like eagles into some other form. Maybe.
  • Imagery and the power of nightmares

    Wed, July 30, 2008 - 5:41 PM
    Why do bank robbers wave the gun around when everyone knows they have it already? Why did the soviets march military equipment through red square on Mayday? Why does the US media have periodical Bin Laden sightings, complete with crappy recordings?

    To scare the hell out of anyone crazy enough to ask why. That's why. Or at least that's my opinion why, which is a good reason to stock up and be prepared for anything. Unlike the bank robber, our government usually uses the gun it is waving - on the bystanders.
    • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

      Thu, July 31, 2008 - 11:42 AM
      "To scare the hell out of anyone crazy enough to ask why. "

      i just watched the Marilyn Manson segment from Bowling for Columbine where Mr. Manson states the fear mongering in the media is designed to make us buy crap... a culture of fear makes us easy to manipulate, but try convincing your neighbors hiding out in the bomb shelter of that... ;)
      • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

        Thu, July 31, 2008 - 12:52 PM
        I'll do that as soon as I leave my bomb shelter. I didn't say we had NOTHING to fear. I think we fear the wrong things, like a bunch of CIA trained cave dwellers who pulled off the most spectacular assualt in history flying incredibly complex machines at high rates of speed at a precise angle that would cause an energy release SO MASSIVE that it generated enough heat to drop two towers at a speed equal to gravity - yet cleverly not so hot that one of their passports escaped the tower collapsing heat unscathed, thus proving that they DID, in fact, defy the laws of physics and necessitate the rise of the police state in which we are now being enveloped.

        I prefer to fear simpler things like a mercenary army so cozy with our government that they arrive in New Orleans without a contract to enforce property rights, because they know they're going to get the contract. You know, screw posse commitatis, we're Blackwater and we're in with Dick and his little Georgie.
        • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

          Thu, July 31, 2008 - 2:03 PM
          events like Katrina show very well the true reason for a police force, to protect and secure private property.
          • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

            Thu, July 31, 2008 - 2:12 PM
            It's cool. We're just looking at the same problem from different angles. I used to believe that things like private property existed, then Keno swept that away. I think we Americans talk a good game anymore, but few of us even know what game is being played, much less how to win it.

            I choose to avoid ideals on the right or the left and focus on the reality in the middle. It isn't so pretty right now, but things change, we come and go and the world will be just fine in the end, regardless of whether or not we're left standing on it. Here's hoping that you and I never need the services of law enforcement following any catastrophe in our lives, or the lives of our friends and families.

            On that we can agree wholeheartedly, yeah?
            • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

              Thu, July 31, 2008 - 2:56 PM
              oh yeah!
              • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

                Thu, July 31, 2008 - 3:47 PM
                if we all where dead they would not be our SHady OVERSEERS anymore !shucks!
                we are safe until the clones and robots are up and running cuz they will work them to death, or without food and breaks.
                bring it on. we will be there with our ipods, designer chinese shoes & gps in our phones, if not our asses. smiling as we wait for the latest press release form angelina jolie.
                .... unplug from this reality, ignore the fed, ignore the tax, lose your identity,make or grow your own, stop answering the phone and they all may just go away and rot in misery.
                • Re: Imagery and the power of nightmares

                  Thu, July 31, 2008 - 7:14 PM
                  That would be nice roman. The there's that whole TOTAL GLOBAL DOMINATION / WORLD SLAVERY scenario. Don't get me wrong man. I totally agree with you. But I see ongoing genocide in the present and it is only escalating every day into the future.

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