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Integrating CJ body rolls with poi (ie monkeyfists)

2008-04-14T19:33:36Z

So has any one played with body rolling the head of your poi. I can do it fairly well now with the right (sphere) Shaped head. One I've started to work on is a horizontal plane 2-beat butterfly reel aka "vertical mexican wave", spinning inward. As one poi head is on the upswing you can intercept its path with your arm and go into a chest roll. If your handle is weighted right, you'll end up with the "ball" rolling down and off of the hand that was spinning it and usually going into a propeller to slide or catch the handle again to a plane bend back in to horizontal plane... At which point you can do the same thing on the other side. I can get one chest roll pretty well. I'm still pretty far from the repeatable pattern.
-Alien Jon

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Contact Poi @ Fire Drums

2008-03-21T20:48:48Z

I was just wondering who all out there in contact poi land will be at Fire Drums? I just confirmed my flight this morning so I'll be there for sure. Oh and I am also planning on teaching a contact poi and tricks workshop while I'm there so if your interested please be sure to make it on over. : )

So who else is planning on going?

-Chris

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basic definition of contact poi and weighted poi

2007-12-04T05:55:05Z

contact poi definition: the process of manipulating the poi without gripping it.

Firstly, your poi: The poi body: the length of poi between handle and head, should be made from comfortable material to have constantly rubbing against your skin- generally something thicker than string would be advisable (sock poi or cone poi are the best in my opinion). You also need to have weighted handles. It depends on the weight ratio between poi-head and poi-handle to where the "propellor point" or "contact point" is. (NB: I am making these names up - but they seem to be quite fitting).

I have found that a ratio of 2:3 handle to head is optimal for ease of propelloring (propellor definition follows underneath) and also for not disrupting the rest of my spinning repetoir, actually, I'm not entirely sure what my weight ratio is... but it is best to experiment with weights to find whatever suits you.

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rocking out the infinate circles

2007-11-14T16:46:25Z

Don't know what these are called but. it's sort of a throttle but my hand stays stuck in the middle.

I can keep it infinately going on meteor.

to explain the move in more detail. with the meteor i'm able to generate centrifical force by weaving it, then let go of it, using my hand more like a fin or a rutter, rubbing against it to keep it in place, with the force pre generated keeping it going.

I've started doing this with counterweighted poi. it's a little harder since the poi is much smaller than the meteor and the couter weight isn't the exact weight. that causes the poi to want to pull my hand further towards the wick head, which forces me to have to slide my hand back down to the counterweighted end.

i find starting it from the counterweighted side easiest. i can keep it going for about 7 rotations before my hand reaches the other side or it generates too much speed and momentum for me to keep it on.

anyone else know what move i'm talking about, has it been given a name yet? friends of mine and i played with it a long time ago and made no ground but picking up meteor between then and there has made my hand more stuble.

any hints, names, ideas.

how long has anyone else made this go?

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Accia's Treek of the week

2007-10-14T01:57:49Z

Just for shareing some ideas that I haven't seen elsewhere on the web or that I've developed on my own.
I will try to post every week a "new"(for me) trick mostly of contact, in this way you have a new idea every week and I must develop it every week... I think can be a good motivation for improving my contact poi.

I hope you will enjoy!!!

1^ Week--> http://www.italianpoi.eu/cms/index.php?option=com_zoom&Itemid=30&page=view&catid=14&PageNo=1&key=0&hit=1

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Hello all

2007-10-12T22:02:07Z

Wow.. silly me, didn't even realize this tribe was here.
But I've found you and I've come to play.
Hello all,
- Sui

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Noel's Tricks of the Weeks

2007-04-06T15:24:04Z

Inspired by A's tricks here are two tricks...

Week # 1

Arm Wrappers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8C8tAJuEBM

Week # 2

Throttle to btb pass to throttle or whip catch.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLqLUwBNSpQ

Lucas thanks for sending me the link to this tribe....

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Staff moves that work with poi

2007-04-03T16:28:05Z

i think there's 2 different techniques for mimicking staff spinning with poi:
~ Use the centre point of your poi as the centre of the staff
~ Use the head of the poi as the centre of the staff

For ease, let's name these er... centre-point and head-point : cp & hp (actually, those are crap names, but will do for now).
For example propellors are centre-point moves
From my feeble dibblings in contact staff and poi, I've so far managed the following staff moves, based on Meg's lessons, as good a reference as any for contact staff moves. I might not have done them very well, but they are do-able.

Halo : cp
Backside entry half-steve: cp (Sorry, got to love that name... aka "neck wrap to arm contact roll")
Elbow-only conveyor belt: cp
Matrix (ish): hp
Fishtails: cp
Belly/back wrap - same hand catches - hp
Neck wrap to halo - cp

The "trouble" I find is that I can only do most of these with one poi (probably as they're single staff moves...).
Although this could raise the awesome possiblity of throwing one poi, contacting the other then catching into something sexy...

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wibbles and variations

2007-03-16T16:00:45Z

THE WIBBLE - source: www.spherculism.net, written by Matt Terry.

Wibble = throw, tapback, tapback, tapback, tapback, tapback....
where each 'tapback' is hitting the handle of the poi back the way it came.

If you make contact further toward the center of the poi body the poi won't wibble back straight away, instead it will do 1 wrap around your arm, then wibble off again. This doesn't have a specific wibbling name, it's just a wibble as far as i'm concerned, perhaps a propellor followed by a wibble if you want to get technical.

But 'Wibbling' is more 'a familiy' or 'style' of moves than a single specific thing.

Propellor = poi spinning round constantly in same direction, exactly the same as the 'propellor' devilstick move.

Doing this is tricky and releys on you making contact with the poi at the center of gravity (CoG), then sliding up toward the handle, poi jumps off a little, reset hand position to CoG. I find using 2 fingers is best.

So generally if the poi continues in the same direction then it's a propellor, if it changes direction it's a wibble, the 2 are closely related.

Both are considered 'Contact Poi' since you can make the 'throw' so tiny that the poi remains in contact with your body. Or you can throw it high and continue the propellor or wibble.

oh yeah:

wibble = 1 spin
dibble = 2 spins

ibble was a name given to the move where you tap the tail, then tap the head, so :

ibble = 1/2 spin (ie a proper juggling tapback)

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wibbles = contact?

2007-03-15T22:10:14Z

very nice video and great idea. i am a fan of videoz to explain what you're talking about in 2 seconds rather than try to textualize it, which takes 20 times as long to do and 40 times as long to understand...

i just wanna clarify something...personally i don't see wibbles/tibbles whatever as contact. I believe contact means the poi has to do at least 1 full revolution around a body part. those are just throws - you are changing the throw and catch technique a bit but i would definitely classify that as throwing rather than contact in my book. do you disagree?

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The "I can't quite do it yet, but it should be possible" thread

2007-03-08T10:26:50Z

For all the ideas which *should* work but you can't quite nail, or you pulled off once and can't repeat

"Well-well-wells"
Or Wrist-elbow-wrist-elbow propellors ;)
Feels alot like the second half of a staff conveyor belt. Propellor with wrist, lifted onto the (now bent) elbow for another prop, wrist comes round and back into props.
(Current record = "well well")

Airwrap release into elbow prop (and maybe halo)
Both poi wall plane CW
enter airwrap/hyperloop as if going for throw, release LH, bend right arm catching LH poi on to elbow.
Can either try an elbow prop throw, or try and turn it into a halo.
(Current record = 1 black eye and lots of swearing)

One-handed b/f propellor
Cos in theory, as with a normal b/f it's just an up-down motion, same as a prop, and you can prop with RH regardless of direction of the poi (CW/ACW). So it should be do-able I reckon.
(Current record = one nearly spilt glass of ribena)

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Contact Poi Tutorials Rising

2007-03-04T13:04:44Z

Well, I' going to go out to take some footage now,
so Ithink that as Aurora said somewhere else, we can provide a big contact poi "database" and, because contact poi is a pretty young discipline we can film what we are kind with to share and improve this wonedrful style of poi.

Then can we do a "division" of the work between us?

in ex. Aurora->propellor
me->throttle
and so on...

I can dedicate a specific gallery on Italianpoi also if you would like...

Let me know!!

Acciaio

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contact throws and catches

2007-02-26T18:10:24Z

- haven't experimented a great deal with these, but the basic contact throw would be from a propellor - releasing the poi just after you give it an upwards push - minor hand movement variations can determine the direction of the throw. In a similar way, the basic contact catch would be a catch straight into a propellor - you just need to watch the rotation while its in the air and go into the propelloring motion as the poi head is just coming down from the 12-o-clock position.

Another contact throw is what I like to call the bounce throw, e.g. on the arm, from a wall plane RH poi anti-clockwise spin, with the poi head coming down from the 12-o-clock position to 9 with the Larm in the way, you place the handle on top of the Larm and let the rest of the poi body swing underneath, releasing the handle only as the poi starts to rise up again and giving a little *bounce* from the Larm. The RH poi will then spring off the arm. The direction of the throw can be altered by the length of time you hold the poi handle before the *bounce*

Then there´s the wrap-bounce, which is similar to a propellor at fisrt, but you dont let the poi slip at all, and it wraps around your (arm/ankle/neck etc) until it reaches the poi-head, at which point is bounces off in the direction of the swing.

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propellors

2007-02-26T17:49:37Z

propellors - I stole this name from the devil stick movement, seemed apt. Basically you move your hand from the poi handle onto the poi body, but maintain the rotation and tension of the poi. This can be done horizontally (much much easier), or vertically, and lead to endless possiblilties With the vertical propellor, you will find you need to give a little upwards push for every rotation to keep the momentum.

props can also be done on the foot, ankle, elbow.... not that i can, but its possible!

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