Ride Report?

topic posted Sat, April 14, 2007 - 11:27 PM by  Spidra
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So how'd it go?
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Spidra
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  • Re: Ride Report?

    Sun, April 15, 2007 - 9:58 AM
    It was wonderful! We had camaraderie, smiles, and zero conflict!
    • Re: Ride Report?

      Tue, April 17, 2007 - 6:39 PM
      Not to water on anyone's parade, but a dissenting view can be found here:

      izine.blogspot.com/2007/04/...ders.html
      • Re: Ride Report?

        Tue, April 17, 2007 - 7:03 PM
        I was raised to obey the rules of the road whether on a bike or in a car so I don't have this expectation that I'll be riding abreast of other bikers and yakking any more than I'd expect to be driving alongside another car and yelling a conversation between cars. If I'm someplace where there's clearly not going to be auto traffic for a while, I may ride abreast but I'll go right back into single file as soon as there's traffic to share the road with. I'm fine with taking the lane when I need to do so for my own safety, but in general I think it's rude as a very slow vehicle (my riding speed averages at 10 mph these days) to take the lane when I don't have to. Back when I used to ride Critical Mass pretty regularly (in the first couple years of its existence), I found myself often endangered by cyclists riding alongside me because they didn't ride in any consistent way. I couldn't predict where they were going to go. They often criss-crossed and I saw a couple collisions as well as narrowly missed a few myself. This tends not to happen when one is riding single file. The only single file accidents I know of happen when a cyclist in front of one has to make a sudden stop.

        Do I obey every single law there is for bikes? No. If I'm on a street with no traffic or pedestrian traffic, I won't stop for a stop sign. (I do stop for lights, however.) If I'm on the top of a T-intersection and no pedestrians are around, I'll often blow through because a cyclist riding along the shoulder can't possibly intersect badly with where the cars are going. But in general I believe there are good reasons for the laws we have and I believe that we could have a safer and more civil society if people obeyed them.

        My drive towards civility in biking (or any transit) is nothing new. I value civility. And I've seen how scofflaws and hooligans give cyclists a real PR black eye. Will pure civility get cyclists the kind of change we want? No. But neither will pure hooliganism.


      • Re: Ride Report?

        Wed, April 18, 2007 - 8:22 AM
        Yeah, I read this guy's blog, and I already replied. People are getting a Cliff Note's version of the idea behind my ride (it's about a hell of a lot more than merely stopping at lights). Also, this was the biggest ride I'd had, and the format is fluid. One reason I started a group was to get more rider input so that I can make the experience relevant and fun for all.

        Besides, Moreau, haven't you ever heard the expression, "You can't please everyone all the time." It's entirely true, and the positive comments have outweighed the negative on a ratio of 20-1. Rides may well be sprouting up in Seattle & Minneapolis.
        • Re: Ride Report?

          Wed, April 18, 2007 - 9:10 AM
          > Yeah, I read this guy's blog

          "This guy" is Amor (last name of the week). He's a spiffing guy, but we disagree on this particular matter (probably others, too, but we haven't had enough chance to find that out yet). Thanks for attending the ride and checking it out, Amor. Sorry it didn't agree with you more. (What kind of Canadian ARE you, anyway? How could you not find "Mannerism" fun and chic? ;-))

          I keep thinking that the fun thing to do would be to really push the "mannerly" part of it. White gloves, tea, knickers and bloomers, Queen's English...
          • Re: Ride Report?

            Wed, April 18, 2007 - 5:47 PM
            Oh! Hee! It took me a bit to realize it was one and the same person (Moreau).

            Well, you know what? I'm glad he showed up. I know this ride isn't going to be for everyone. I don't begrudge him his opinion, I'm just glad I didn't smell the fart he cut in my general direction.

            I'm not nearly as much of a stiff as I prolly sound like.
            • Re: Ride Report?

              Thu, April 19, 2007 - 7:01 PM
              I never claimed to be a zero emission vehicle, but the fart was more of a rhetorical raspberry. In the City, there are many more mephitic affronts. And while I may not be the most diplomatic fellow traveler, I do support anyone getting together to ride bikes.
              • Re: Ride Report?

                Sat, April 28, 2007 - 1:07 PM
                Having read your comments on your blog and what you've written here, I'm of the opinion that you don't support this particular ride, and that your comments might discourage people from trying it out.

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