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I run a Community Shared Agriculture (CSA) in Alberta, Canada. This is a fairly new concept for this area. Maybe because we have so many farms on the prairies, maybe 'cause the cities are no where as big as Toronto or Vancouver, where there are more CSAs. I network with the 3 others around Edmonton, Alberta, that I know of, but hunger for info from elsewhere. Don't want to reinvent the wheel, don't you know. I don't mind sharing info, either. 'nature' of the game.
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Re: Talk with me 'bout local growing/buying -vegetables
Tue, January 16, 2007 - 12:38 PMThanks for the posting! I've been getting into fruit and vegetable gardening over the last two years. As my partner and I start to generate a surplus, I would like to find a way to distribute it. I'm glad to give produce away, but I only know a few people who would really use it. We could sell some produce--I would really prefer doing something less based on Almighty Cash. How is your CSA organized? Do you have a physical space where you meet or does the distribution happen another way? -
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Re: Talk with me 'bout local growing/buying -vegetables
Tue, March 20, 2007 - 8:15 AMI'm so embarrassed. I didn't see that you posted this, Rahim, until now. I'll answer now in the hopes that you'll see this tardy reply.
Vegetable gardening, rather the love of it, was what got me started. The little literature that I've read on the subject states that you should either start out small or market garden for a while before starting to give you a good knowledge base. The things you need to know ahead are things like how much space does it take to grow each crop, how much to charge for the overall share/week. I know what you mean about the $$ aspect, but please consider that there are others in the business that want to make a living, so you should charge what it's worth.
I guess one has to be prepared to increase your garden space quite a bit with the growth of #s. I started out planting for 10 families and increased my garden a couple times now. My husband and I playfully argue over pasture for his horses and garden space for me. I think I might have to cap the # of families I grow for at 30. this year, we're looking at 20 families. We have both 1/2 and full shares. The full share amounts to enough veggies for a family of 4 (but they often state their relief when different seasons are over, because of the amounts of veggies they have to wash and store and eat in a week. beans come to mind).
I ask for a work commitment of 12 hours/ season. This is the same for 1/2 or full for 2 reasons. 1, I don't think anyone would get the full understanding of what is involved on 6 hours (only 2 visits) and 2, I couldn't possibly grow that many veggies by myself. Those 12 hours are broken down into 4 visits of 3 hours each. All of them in the evening. I do the scheduling and try to book with their choice of dates in mind and with the community mindedness in mind. So, more than one family can come out in an evening. This is my favourite part, seeing all that enthusiasm! 2 of those 4 evenings are dedicated to weeding, done on Fridays (so that we can have a bonfire after) and 2 of them to prepick nights, which happen the night before delivery day. Delivery day is Tuesday. On prepick evenings, members help pick all that is ready, except the stuff that wouldn't last the night in our milkhouse like lettuce. We give everything a cursary rinse, divvy it up into the shares, and put it into rubbermaid totes. VERY early the next moring, I finish picking, load 'em up and truck them into the city. One of the members is good enough to donate her back yard (I'm pleased to say it's win-win situation, she LOVEs running out to her back yard to "shop"). I buy 2 totes for each family and number them. One gets dropped off on week 1, they bring bins or bags and fill out of their tote. Those get left there, and on week 2, I drop off the second tote and pick up the first.
I write a weekly newsletter filled with farm news (the focus is reconnection to the land), recipes and storeage tips and event news. The last event of the year is our harvest day. This is voluntary but highly recommended as we have so much fun with everyone there, and we pull the last of the veggies out and share them and clean the garden up, pulling pea fences and putting away hoses etc.
You caught me at a good time, Rahim. I'm starting my seeding today. With dreams of a good season. Enough rain to collect for the dry times and enough heat for excellent tomatoes.
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Re: Talk with me 'bout local growing/buying -vegetables
Fri, March 23, 2007 - 1:21 PMThanks so much for the posting! It sounds like you've got a great system worked out. I will be very happy if I am able to move in a similar direction within the next year or two.
It seems like there are many, mnay possible systems of organization. Setting up a U-pick operation would be another way, possibly with paying on the "honor system." i like the way you've set up your garden/farm, because it's small and "knowable." You can have continuity over time, get to know the families involved, and everyone can see the whole crop cycle.
Too bad we don't live closer! I would love to visit your place someday.
I was so eager this year that I started peppers, eggplants, tomatoes, broccoli, and cabbage on Feb 1. Some of the tomatoes are 2 feet tall already! We had four or five varieties last year--this year we've started almost 30 :-) Of course the tomatoes would probably get too leggy and unhealthy if I kept them indoors for another whole month. Fortunately we just got a small greenhouse (a tent-like thingy) that we'll use to harden them off in early April, as well as for heat-lovers in the summer and just general year-round gardening.
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Re: Talk with me 'bout local growing/buying -vegetables
Fri, March 23, 2007 - 1:05 PMSo glad you found it. It's good to talk to likeminded people. If you're ever up this way you'll have to drop us a line, I'd be happy to show you around.
I thought about U pick too. It's becoming such a good part of our food system. People are becoming more aware of what they want in food and recognize that all the good stuff is grown not so far away. I pur our operation on a provincial map of U picks last year in hopes of letting people know about the concept, but as you can see above, it takes a bit of wording to get the idea across. Too much for the space this map provided. In the mean time, tho, I got to know how many U picks there are in Alberta, it was amazing! The downside to them, is that your gate is ALWAYS open, and there's no privacy. I had to do some soul searching and talking with my less than extroverted husband and decided that we'd like only those that we invite onto our already exposed property.
I've heard of the honor system as well. I have a Swiss-Canadian neighbour who said that a lot of the Upicks in Switzerland function this way. I've talked to many people here and we agree; it wouldn't work here. Unfortunately. Maybe I'll do a trial sometime. I just don't know how one can advertise that there's a box w/$ in it and not have it stolen.
We are seeing families return for their 3rd or 4th year this year. It's very exciting!
I'm seeding just now, as our growing season is further away than yours. I can't wait, tho.
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