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Just out of curiosity - are Border collies talkers? I know some breeds are much talkie than others and rat terriers really don't talk much - but Sadie Mae is half and half and she talks all the time.
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Re: Grumbly beast
Fri, October 30, 2009 - 2:19 PMas a rule, BC are not talkers. Altho I have met one or 2 exceptions.
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Re: Grumbly beast
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 12:40 PMMy sister's dog (though mixed with something else...some sort of spaniel, I think) "talks" sometimes. If she's looking for a treat, she can sound like a pirate or sing (which is simply a less annoying and trained way of whining). I've not seen it from any other border collies I've known, but I haven't known more than a handful, to be honest
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Re: Grumbly beast
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 1:27 PMMy rat terrier is a talker. So much so, I talk with him all the time.
Maybe is depends on what dogs have on their minds and the need to express themselves. -
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Re: Grumbly beast
Thu, November 19, 2009 - 6:47 PMSam was a dog that I had to forcibly remove from living on the streets (it was the one and only time he bit me, didn't break the skin). he lived with me for 14 years; was a mix of yellow lab, terrier, collie, whippet, and who knows what else. He was a talker. It always cracked me up that he just HAD to get the last word in, especially if I said good night. Then he'd grunt, I'd say good night, he'd grunt, "Good night", grunt, "good night".....then he'd wait up to a minute to be sure to get the last "good night" in! I never won! -
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Re: Grumbly beast
Fri, November 20, 2009 - 11:22 AMMy late rattie had to have the last word if she was barking but the only time she made other noise was when she was sleepy and was being petted. Then she'd moan and groan. Toby grumbles a bit when she's relaxing. But Sadie warbles, woofs, mumbles, and generally carries on all the time. It's quite entertaining! -
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Thu, November 26, 2009 - 7:05 PMI have only lived with one BC. Rescued her in mexico, and smuggled her across the border. She was a companion and friend for 14 years. Rosie was not overly barky. She had an alpha partner, but she was the most alert. So, if anything happened, she would sound a one of two bark alarm, and the alpha dog would get up and take a look. If he started barking, then she would join in.
Rosie would also dream. First the feet would start moving. Then twitching. Then a bark or two, which would wake her up. She would lift her head and look around. Then go back to sleep.
In open play space, Rosie would bark at birds, but that was about it.
My experience with BC's (also as a veterinarian) is that they are smart and discriminative. If they are barking when you would not like them to, they are easily trained. In general, my impression is that they are not a "noisy" dog. They bark when they think it is appropriate. It should be an easy matter with such a smart breed to train them when it is appropriate to bark, and when not to. They are working dogs who aim to do a good job, and to please.
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