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A friend of mine was out with her boyfriend last night. At the club there was a lesbian who kept coming onto my friend. Her boyfriend, who is also in the theater and very acquainted with gay culture, was instantly offended, and felt disrespected. My friend could not understand why he was offended. My question for you all is this: If your straight mate was being come onto by someone of the same sex, would you feel that that person was disrespecting you?
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:07 AMOnly if I hadn't faced my own homophobic issues. I have found in many situations like his, one can make it a win-win situation.
A question I have that you didn't touch on here is how it affected his date. How did they interact while this was going on and after? -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:17 AMWell my friend, we'll call her "Lady" , was acquainted with the woman who was coming on to her. They had worked together before. Lady's boyfriend spent the entire car ride home alternately brooding and fussing about the lesbian's percieved disrespect. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:23 AMwell me being gay and all i will put a twist to this.
if a girl was flerting and coming on to my man (btw wish i had one)
i would take it as a complement, like ahah bitch you dont have a chance.....
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:25 AM<<unless he went home with her... then i might have to rethink the whole thing>>
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:29 AMI guess bi-sexuality can pop up where you least expect it, right, James?
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:24 AMWell, IMO, your friend has some big issues of his own to deal with.... -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:27 AMI'm not understanding your responce(probably because I just woke up), but my friend is "Lady". Her boyfriend had a problem with another woman seemingly coming on to her. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:33 AM<<Her boyfriend had a problem with another woman seemingly coming on to her.>>
Sorry for my ambiguity! I meant the boyfriend, leaving her, so to speak, in the lurch to have to stew over it! I think it will help if both she and he can talk this over as honestly as they can! If he can't, maybe that's a sign that this relationship is going to be rocky in the future, too! -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:41 AMI agree. it's a sorta new relationship and I'n sure they have some kinks to work out.
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:34 AMIt depends on if the person knows they are monogamous or not. Are they friends or not? If they are monogamous then she should just tell her she knows theyre exclusive. If theyre swingers and just not interested he should totally get over it. People just have to have something to bitch about I guess. I'd just feel fine in knowing the fact that I'm on my way home with my woman and am about to pounce on her as soon as we walk in the door. Mmm hmm. That other lady is back at the bar or wherever. I'm here with my lady. He should focus more on her instead of some insignificant pettiness.
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:37 AMGood specific advice, Mr. M!
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:43 AMthe boyfriend could be a bit insecure. He has openly gay siblings. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:54 AMWell if theyre monogamous and please each other in and out of bed they should both get over any insecurities they have.
Everytime I talk about str8 sex I wish I had a woman in my bed. Daaaaamn!!! "If you wanna ride, ride the white horse." lol
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:55 AMIt depends on the situation, now if the woman coming onto your friend knows that your friend is in a new relationship and the new boyfriend sensed her sort of messing with him by continuing her pursuit, I can see where he would feel disrespected.
If the relationship is new, not much trust has been built up yet and so therefore here they are, out and about and he doesn't know how his Lady is going to react to things or whether those two had history or not. I am not sure it was about it being a lesbian, I bet even if it was a guy he would feel a little disrespected.
They were together, they were out, unless there had been some talk of maybe having a threesome this other person is not respecting that they were together that night.
Maybe I am a jerk, or insecure but it seems from my perspective that the other woman was purposely testing a boundary. Or maybe your friend AND the other woman were testing a boundary with the guy.
I see people as people, whether they are straight or gay, someone coming onto someone is someone coming onto someone, gay straight bi or whatever. If I am on a date with someone and someone else is relentlessly trying to "horn" in on it I would feel uncomfortable whether I was playing the part of your friend Lady or the irked boyfriend.
If it's new, he doesn't know that she would or wouldn't do anything about the flirting. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 11:02 AMWell I was witholding my opinion until i got some responces from you guys. But I TOTALLT think that the other woman was being disrespectful. I feel like my friend should have been more vocal in the presence of her boyfriend. That might have squashed some of his fears. But then too, he should not have taken it out on my friend. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 11:22 AMthey should have been able to talk about it in a different way after. People have such a hard time being honest without placing blame on others or projecting their own shit on others.
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 11:23 AMIf that person knows your friend is have new man she was probably playing games. Just seeing how he'd react. That's kind of messed up. Or maybe your friend wanted her friend to do it to see how he'd react? The good or bad of it is subjective I guess. If it's as simple as you say then the one that was coming onto ( or is it on to ) your friend was in the wrong. Or maybe she was just being playful and there's an overeaction by the man? I would have stepped up and said to my new girlfriend "Hey honey. Are we having a 3 way tonight?" And just smiled. : ) -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 11:34 AMI've only met the guy twice and very briefly, but i dont think he is confident enough to do that. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 12:19 PMJust tell him Mr. M says to grow a set. If he asks who I am, just say "Say what mutha fucka?!!! Whatchew mean you don't know who be Mr. M?" Put your hands on your hips, purse your lips & shake your head back and forth in digust. lol Maybe execute a perfect triple overhead / round the world snap. : )
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 12:33 PMSounds like plain rudeness, genderless no matter what their preference. Once is fine, cool. The second time you're turned down, they meant it, they're not interested. After that, fuck off, you're just being a dick, get used to disappointment. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 12:59 PMthe issue isn't about gay or straight it's about etiquette
it is extremely ill mannered to hit on anyone's date unless
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 4:30 PMThis isnt a gay vs straight issue at all, this is a respecting people too kind of thing. If she understood that they were together and was openly hitting on her I dont care if its a lesbian or a straight guy, not cool.
If I was at a bar and some woman came up an hit on my girl I wouldnt take that badly at all. Adversly if I was there with my girl and a aquintance that knew we were together nuh uh no way not cool completly disrespectful
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 6:06 PMWas there no possibility for a threesome? Sounds like a opportunity to me. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 7:23 PMSounds to me like they are on a page or chapter or so before people like us.... -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 7:53 PMHe should have cut her hair off and slapped her. : ) -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 7:54 PMUmm. I that the "tough love" approach?
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 8:05 PMMake her an honorary member of the Slap-a-ho tribe. j/k
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:24 PMNone at all, My friend is completely straight. -
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Sat, October 31, 2009 - 10:26 PMGood clarifying response!
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 9:02 AMI am way too lazy to read all 30 posts...I read about 5 into the thread...lol
I am not sure it is about gay or straight. Maybe just about plain Respect in her boyfriend's eyes.
I use to go out with my gay guy roommate all the time. When straight men came on to me, he got really upset. His thoughts were...
How did these men not know we were together? Trying to pick up someone when they are with their man or woman, right in front of the person, well is disrespectful.... it doesn't matter if your male, female, straght, gay or bisexual... it's one's intentions. -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 9:58 AMI agree completely, and yes, well said. -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 3:11 PMWill said well said & is too sexy for his shirt said Right Said Fred. Is this too much for my head? Do I need to go to bed & wake up dead?
BOINK!!! -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 3:14 PMMr M you were a restless child werent you? -
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Sun, November 1, 2009 - 3:45 PMI still am Coach. : ) If you Skyped me you'd swear I had schizophenia or was on heroin or something. I like to pretend I'm Russell Crowe in A Beautiful Mind. Especially when I'm at work. I suppose it's not pretend anymore if you do it enough though.
Patty cake patty cake bakers man. Mommas in the kitchen cookin' fast as she can!!!
Weeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 7:23 PMI was in a club once and this woman was trying to come on to me. Before I could respond, my husband came over to me and she got visibly offended! It seemed she felt he was muscling in on her game or something. It never occured to her that he and I came in together. -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 7:53 PMEven though there are thoughtless people out there that annoy, I have found more and more, that if I try to practice patience and observe closer you may see why certain things happen they way they do. So instead of sighing in exhasperation and thinking or saying something like "Jesus fucking Christ! What a stupid dumbfuck!" I might think "Oh. There's a different dumbfuck in front of this dumbfuck. So this person isnt the dumbfuck." Or "Oh. There are pedestrians I didnt see initially." But really with a lot of things in life. You can't always understand why people do what they do. What may seem completely idiotic may be totally logical to the other person. But this surely doesnt mean that the world isnt totally full of stupid dumbass people. Myself included. We are all ignorant in our own special ways. Just some much more ignorant than others. If youre doing 30 in a 40 zone for no obvious reason? In my mind? Youre a total dumbfuck and need to get the hell out of my way as I blast past you with the music cranked up. "Get the fuck out of my way retard!!!" God that feels good. : ) -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:05 PMI made a stupid mistake some ten years ago or so ago to take my gorgeous and undoubtedly (and Ib kinda knew, but i didn't really know how homophobic he was) ultra-straight friend Mike who was jonesing for a great all-night dance venue when we were in S.F. clubbing. So I immediately thought of to Club Universe at the late-lamented 177 Townsend. As soon as we got in to the hot and sweaty atmosphere, of course I was charged and he was horrified. All these guys were coming on to him. His hell was my heaven! Oh-oh! I had to pull him out before he slugged some guys (who i thought were cuties). Yet another example of how one man's meat is another man's poison... -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:10 PMI think I posted my last post on the wrong thread. See what not drinking does to me. : ( -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:13 PMHa! And drinking, in may case, young master! -
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 8:21 PMBoink! " in may case"! Yeah, it's good I'm not driving right now....
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Mon, November 2, 2009 - 9:53 PMI used to take my straight friend to gay clubs with me. He just enjoyed the mucis and the $1 well drinks. I spent most of the night on guard duty.
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