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.......you know youre completely fucking insane. But you know for certain if you commit yourself to an institution it will make things worse and completely ruin your life more than it already is? : )
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 4:55 PMHave some ice cream.
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 4:56 PMThats a tough one. Maybe finding an outlet like art or writing a journal might help. Or steal money from yourself and take a vacation, you can go on a cruise and chill for a bit. -
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 5:23 PMI said you not me. Har har.
I tribe.
I am the gay messiah. Come to shave the world. ( Actually I prefer hairy. Just making a play on words. )
I met a guy yesterday and spoke with him on the phone. We're supposed to get together this week sometime. I think that's really what I need. A man like Annie Lennox. Yep. Recipe for sanity.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Sun, October 11, 2009 - 5:13 PMStart a religion.
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 3:21 PMRealize that everyone is insane and the fact that you can think and type coherently means you're already miles above most people in sanity.
If your insanity feels really good, go with it!
If your insanity feels really bad, it's probably some underlying anxiety; do the best you can to treat it. You will feel better. -
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 3:36 PMWhen I lived and taught high school for many years in Santa Cruz, I eventually had a few former students with mental disorders who joined support groups. They reported they really found great help through them in balancing their behavior and thus avoiding being institutionalized (or re-institutionalized). So I decided to Google just now, and here's one site I came up with:
Psychotic Disorders Online Health Community and Support Group
Under Mental Health and Behavior
Synonyms and/or examples: Schizophrenia, Bipolar Disorder
Related communities: Mental Health
Welcome to the Healia Health Community for Psychotic Disorders. Through this Psychotic Disorders support group, you can get Psychotic Disorders information, share experiences about Psychotic Disorders, connect with peers, and get answers to your Psychotic Disorders questions from health professionals.
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 7:47 PMI don't trust psychiatric "professionals." Psychiatry has ruined far more lives than it has helped in my opinion. Psychiatry is a fucking institutional genocide tool as far as I'm concerned. I just have to keep telling myself that the highs and lows of life are things that everyone is capable of feeling. Especially those that are "sensitive", contientious & perhaps somewhat empathic. How could one feel so much and not feel a bit insane? I should keep reminding myself that it is good that I can feel. That so many people are dead to the world like it's wrong to feel. I often feel totally, fully & completely headfucked. Yet simultaneously perfectly sane, content & filled with joy. The extreme polarities can be more than a little shocking. How the fuck can you wish you never existed and feel like suicide AND the total opposite of that at the same time? -
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 7:51 PMSo this is precisely why you and others may really like this approach: it is the -opposite- of "professional psychiatrists"! And that's why my former students and others who were attracted to it went that way.
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 8:06 PMFor years I have been needing to get into a support group for other heart patients and some kind of health program in a hospital setting or something. I need someone to force me to eat right. I'm such a trainwreck on my own. I eat okay sometimes. But not nearly enough. ( As I sip my Black Velvet and Orangette cocktail and skip dinner. Yet again.
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Wed, October 14, 2009 - 9:57 PMIf you know you are insane, you most likely still mostly sane. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:02 PM" If you know you are insane, you most likely still mostly sane. "
Ah, yes - shades of the dead man in Yosarian's tent. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:24 PMMr. M said: "How the fuck can you wish you never existed and feel like suicide AND the total opposite of that at the same time? "
I don't think you are alone in those conflicting feelings. I have had periods like that too and it is very uncomfortable. I think we live in a crazy society and it can be very confusing to try to keep a level mood sometimes.
If you can discuss your thoughts and feeling with a trusted friend or family member that is sometimes helpful. I share your distrust of so called professionals partly because they tend to place individuals into a catagory rather than adddress you as a unique person. Also many years ago I worked in a clerical position in an office with some therapists and shrinks. Although most were respectful of their client's privacy a few would talk with utter conpempt about their clients. There are also too many of them who view their job as getting people to conform to social paradigms.
It is possible to shop around and find a counselor who resonates with your needs. Try to find one who realizes that it is society that is crazy and that their job is to help you to navigate through the bs. Of course a friend or family member with a good ear and heart can do the same thing. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 2:25 PMYou're only insane if they catch you.
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 9:05 PMThanx 4 that post Humm.
James you can't hide it. Ha ha. You iz crazy man!
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:18 PMMr. M said: "How the fuck can you wish you never existed and feel like suicide AND the total opposite of that at the same time? "
I had those feelings in my twenties. Not suicidal, but as close as I want to get. I wanted to give up, wanted all the fear and bad feelings to end. Has just gone through a divorce, my first career had fallen through, failing as school because I stressed about everything. I Was taking Shakespeare' s Tragedies and Russian Lit - a bad combination when you're already depressed. I was asking God to take me out the game. Just wanted to quit trying.
One day, I said fuck it, I'm tired of feeling so bad all the time. Started living one day at time, accepting life as it came, enjoying the good moments when they came, dealing with bad as best I could. Living in the moment I suppose.
But that's just me. I think when you have these feelings, you absolutely have to talk to some one. Share them. Find some activities that get you out of your own head. Be of use to others. That always feels good. Worst thing is to bottle them up. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:27 PMI'm talking to you guys. And it's actually helping. Thank you. They just ignore me on the Depression tribe. What with all my trying to cheer people up and get people to think positively and all. lol It doesnt always have to be a woe is me pity party. But then it is depression I suppose. Not surprising. -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:31 PMTried the pharmaceutical route yet? -
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Thu, October 15, 2009 - 10:33 PMNo way. Only recreationally. I think some things may help some people. But that most things make most people worse off. I want to feel. Whether what I feel is good or bad. Better than being numb and not feeling anything at all. Being a zombie is no fun. -
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 1:09 PMSo, you trust the "doctor" hanging outside the club for pharmaceuticals vs. the one in the office that devoted his education to learning about them and how they work with individual body chemistry. And when it comes to heavy pharmaceuticals, doctors see other doctors because they know they aren't qualified to self prescribe.
You are correct about mind dumbing. All drugs sold as anti-depressants in this country do nothing of the kind. They lower emotions in varying ways by acting on serotonin levels differently. Everyone is different. The wrong one or combination can really fuck you up.
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 4:39 AMGet off the depression tribe there Mr. M...they are only draggin you down...
Silly old saying..."god helps those that helps themselves"...
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 1:54 PMIf I was drinking Black Velvet & orangey cocktails for dinner and not eating properly I'd feel like a mental case too!
Food is king! We are all big bags of chemicals. Alcohol is a depressant. Start with a big dose of B vitamins and some spaghetti and meatballs. Lay off the sauce and smoke more pot for a while, maybe. That seems like it would really help to start.
There are so many different meds out there and doctors and different kinds of therapy, there's really something for everyone. And doses vary, you don't have to become a zombie if you take meds. I know a lot of people, especially in my family, that have dealt with depression for years, and they have all found combinations of things that really helped, be it herbal, exercise, pharms, meditation, talk therapy, detox therapy, something else or all of the above.
You can find something that works for you and will make you feel better, but for crying out loud, before anything else, make sure you eat !!! Alcohol does not count as food, dude!
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Fri, October 16, 2009 - 9:33 PMI only had two beers earlier and just finished a bowl of chicken soup. Yay. I was cranking up Madonna on the way to pick up my friends wife from school. I was just driving along and feeling great. I thought to myself "I am just fine." I may not be living at the optimal levels of my full potential. But I'm aware of it. Time to listen to my conscience and follow my heart.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Sat, October 17, 2009 - 10:26 AM
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