Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

topic posted Thu, December 28, 2006 - 6:09 AM by  Aliyah
I'm feeling discouraged. I'm about halfway through my second year of bellydance lessons, taking the intermediate/mixed class.

The first year was a struggle - a struggle I expected, because I'm very much challenged by dance and by movement. But I felt like, finally, I was getting it. I was taking two classes a week - one beginner, and one mixed. The very cool part of that was that the beginner class felt easy - well, maybe not easy, but I understood it, and got the moves. That helped with the mixed class, as I was the least experienced dancer in that class, and focusing on the basics in the beginner class was very useful in putting it together in the mixed class.

This last summer, I dropped back to one class a week - financially, I needed to do it. Plus, it was hard to have two nights a week that were off-limits because of dance class - especially when we started doing swing dance lessons on yet another night each week. This fall, I stayed with one class weekly. On my teacher's recommendation, I stayed with the intermediate/mixed class.

But I'm just not getting it. I'm leaving class feeling like I might as well have stayed home. In this class, there's a lot of follow-the-leader. By the time I've figured out what move I'm supposed to be following, we're onto a different move. We've been learning to dance with sticks - which I HATE. I can't twirl the darn stick the way I'm supposed to, and it feels ... eh. I don't like the moves, I totally lack any sort of enthusiasm for this. I'm not driven to WANT to learn it. I'm not even working up a sweat. At least before, even if I didn't get the moves, I felt like I was ACTIVE, that eventually I would get it.

I haven't talked to my teacher about this yet. I kept thinking that I was maybe having an off night (ok, off nights for 3 months), that I would feel better about it next week. Last night we did a lot of improvising with the sticks - and all I wanted to do was toss the stick out the window. I'm not good with improvising to start with, and add that stupid stick - it was not a positive experience. The sticks don't feel like dancing to me. Though she said last night that we wouldn't be doing the sticks again til March.

So now I'm wondering if maybe I need to switch back to the beginner class. I'm ok with spending 95% of the class feeling inept, as long as I get that 5% of "Hey, I get this!" It's the 100% inept classes that are discouraging me. I hate feeling like the slow, problem child - too old, too fat, too clumsy, too slow, with the rest of the class all getting it right.

Is this common? Do other dancers at this stage of learning have this problem? Is it just something I need to work through? Or maybe I need to focus more on practicing at home, and not worry so much about the class.
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Aliyah
Vermont
  • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

    Tue, January 2, 2007 - 8:32 AM
    Hi!
    I felt exactly in that way last year: I was following a class in which I was a "new entry" and I felt like I was unable to learn anything. I talked with my teacher and she told me that many students have a period in which they feel like they're not learnging anything and they're not able to do anything, but usually this "off period" has an end...you only need to be patient!
    Really sometimes I still feel in this way...but thing are going better!
    I don't think it's a good idea to come back to beginners' class, if you have the basics off course! Why don't you talk with your teacher? I think she will give you some good advice!
    • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

      Tue, January 2, 2007 - 10:35 AM
      Thanks, Leyla. I think you're right on this.

      We performed Sunday night, and that was a huge boost for me. I felt way less discouraged after that, and I am feeling a lot of incentive to work harder and improve.

      I'll stick out this next set of classes, and hopefully will be more on track. If I'm still feeling lost, I'll talk to the teacher about it.
      • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

        Wed, January 10, 2007 - 8:47 AM
        hi Laurie,
        stick to it - you'll get past it. I wrote an article on the sophomore syndrome a while back, I know how it goes. Sometimes you have to talk yourself through things, just so the negative feelings about class don't become a habit; how you look at things makes a huge difference. And moods can be catching - or distracting at least!

        I think your teacher would really welcome knowing what's going on with you, we "are" psychic haha but can't always tell what the specifics are. Chances are she knows something's wrong anyway & is hoping you'll talk to her...
  • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

    Wed, March 14, 2007 - 9:27 PM
    I know it's been a while since you posted this, but I feel compelled to put in my two cents.

    Anytime you learn something new (bellydance aside) you hit these plateaus, or blah moments when you feel so stagnant and like you're just stuck. It's common, and yes, it happened and still happens to me at times. But what I personally heard in your post is that maybe this type of particular class just isn't your style. I'm assuming that you are learning to dance with cane? Maybe it will make you feel better to hear that I can't stand cane. I took a workshop with it and it did nothin' for me. That prop just does NOT speak to me. If that's the stick you wanted to toss out the window, I don't blame you. (No offense to cane dancers intended).

    I'm also wondering if in an ideal world, you would do better in a class that is slightly more advanced than beginner, but not moving quite so fast as this mixed class. Or maybe you need a smaller class, with more one on one? Have you considered trying a different teacher in addition to this one? Sometimes extra help or things explained a different way can be a world of difference. I'm not sure if you practice regularly either, but especially when I was a new student, practicing between classes helped me immensely.

    As a teacher, I encourage all my students to come talk to me about any questions or confusion. I hope yours is also approachable and you have made some time to open up to her. She might sense that you are frustrated, and not be sure how to approach you, or she might be distracted with the masses and not even realize you are struggling. Speak up! You're paying, and you deserve a little feedback every once in a while.

    Hang in there, it sounds like you love dancing and have a solid foundation of the basics. It will all click, trust me.
    • Thank you all for your comments.

      Tue, April 3, 2007 - 9:08 PM
      It's gotten better - we've ditched the canes, thank goodness. Apart from simply hating the cane dancing, I think it's really a case of feeling impatient with myself in this "plateau."

      I have a great teacher - and the class size is small. Perhaps it's a confidence issue for me; when I don't overthink it, the moves work. I've been practicing a lot more lately, and I don't know if it's helping, but it can't hurt.

      I'm trying to be less hard on myself, and that's helped, too - not beating myself up for not getting a move quickly. We're working toward a recital in May, and by then I think it'll be OK.

      It's been really helpful to read what you more experienced dancers have to say about this. Thanks so much! You guys are great!
      • Re: Thank you all for your comments.

        Wed, April 4, 2007 - 8:02 PM
        hey, you're welcome!
        I'm trying to be less hard on myself too. It's a human thing, it's always a struggle. Glad to hear that you're feeling better, and yes, practice will help! Dance on sista...........
  • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

    Sat, November 3, 2007 - 11:36 AM
    I know exactly how you feel (or felt since this was a while ago, lol) I've been dancing for almost 2 years now and I take two seperate classes I was doing really well until one teacher introduced me to veil work, lol. I like veil dancing but I sometimes feel really awkward with it or I'll start dancing and forget that I even have it, lol. I end up getting really frustrated because Im used to being able to pick things up pretty quickly but I just havent quite gotten the veil down. I can do a few basic moves but thats about it. So i think its definitely a "sophmore" thing because we arent really beginners anymore but we still have a lot more stuff to learn and we end up getting frustrated because we want to be better (or at least I do, lol) :)
  • Re: Is this just "sophomore stumble"?

    Sat, December 22, 2007 - 1:19 PM
    Been there, done that! I've been dancing for almost three years and STILL go though slumps (in fact, I'm in the middle of a HUGE one right now). I think it comes with the territory whenever you are learning something new.
    If I may speak candidly, I'm not so sure a "lead and follow" class is all that good for a belly dance newbie such as yourself. That class format may work once you have some experience under your hipbelt but, when you are just starting out, I would think that it could lead to confusion and frustration (ie the "sophomore stumble"). Heck, I've been at this for awhile and I have trouble with that type of instruction! Remember, as a beginning dancer, it's important to have belly dance moves thoroughly explained and demonstrated so that you learn proper form and technique. That's hard to do when you are trying to keep up with more experienced dancers in a mixed class situation while playing "follow the leader". OK, I'll get down off my soapbox now....

    Anyway, Laurie, hang in there, don't lose heart, pick some music that you absolutely love to practice at home to (and it doesn't have to be Middle Eastern music - I practice to anything from Marilyn Manson to Renaissance music!) and, most of all, DON'T GIVE UP!

    Slumps come and go but the joy of Bellydance is forever!!!!!!
    • LOL, still struggling, but hanging in there.

      Tue, March 11, 2008 - 5:12 AM
      You're right - for me, lead and follow doesn't work well. It's just not the way I learn.

      What does work is to slowly go over each new move piece by piece, until I feel like my body knows how to move to make that work. So for now, during those parts of class, I just fake it as best I can.

      Luckily, lead and follow is never more than 10 minutes or so of class time.

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