coincidence?

topic posted Fri, March 14, 2008 - 2:15 PM by  ஹૐ adya
Is there such a thing as coincidence or randomness of the universe?

Does potential exist without a purpose?

How would you describe it?
  • Re: coincidence?

    Mon, March 17, 2008 - 7:47 AM
    There may be "such a thing" if you believe in "such a thing". Personally, I'm a stickler for everything happening for a reason, even though sometimes that reason doesn't reveal itself immediately. This topic reverts me back to the pebble in the pond and the inevitable ripples that follow. We form our own potential through our own actions, and the rippling outcrops through the universe...so every time one of us "tosses a pebble" we are all touched by the ripple. The movie, "Crash", is an excellent example of this and it's effects on only a small group of people. Remember...we are all connected by 6 degrees of humanity.
    • Re: coincidence?

      Fri, March 28, 2008 - 3:46 PM
      I don't think it is so much about things happening for a reason as the whole being an opening process. Thus, each "experience" moves forward allowing the experiences behind to follow forward, opening a greater universe of experience. It's not cause and effect, but a bit by bit progressing view of a greater picture. Then we, with conscious reason, draw up the chart and apply the labels.
      • Re: coincidence?

        Sun, March 30, 2008 - 2:00 PM
        I think life is quite serendipitous. There are all sorts of things put in our way for our own beautiful development. We are all angels for each other...we are the enlightened creatures we've been waiting for and we need to rescue ourselves.
        On the other hand, I feel like life is it's own purpose. There is no purpose other than to experience this planet, the senses, and the feeling of being alive. If you think you have a purpose, your ego is deceiving you. Perhaps you may be fortunate enough to experience a serendipity of the universe using you as a vehicle to bring light to one person or another at a given time...but the purpose is just to be. You don't have to be "good" or "bad" or anything at all. You don't have to DO anything at all. Just breathe, be alive, find your own fulfillment in the yinness of the moment.
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    Re: coincidence?

    Mon, March 17, 2008 - 7:57 AM
    Jung's idea of synchronicity is interesting although some people twist it in an attempt to control others i.e. Black magic.

    “Synchronicity is the experience of two or more events which occur in a meaningful manner, but which are causally un-related. In order to be synchronous, the events must be related to one another conceptually, and the chance that they would occur together by random chance must be very small.”

    Source: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synchronicity

    I figure there's something going on. Probably has something to do with the fact that everything exists (all past and future) and is happening now! We are all the singularity.
  • Re: coincidence?

    Mon, March 17, 2008 - 9:45 AM
    The love of my life and hopefully my life parter recently got a download from "Great Mother".
    One of the many things she shared was .... There are no coincidences.
  • Re: coincidence?

    Fri, March 21, 2008 - 12:16 PM
    For me, the difference between a coincident and synchronisity is a matter of awareness . . .
    Anam Cara, Bonnie
    • Re: coincidence?

      Sun, March 23, 2008 - 3:36 AM
      I agree,
      Remember the "Celestine Prophesy"?
      A great thesis written atrociously.
      When I'm "in the groove",a certain elevated height of awareness which happens naturally from time to time,associated with several events which would otherwise be simply called good luck ,but taken together and occurring in clusters is the hallmark of the phenomena for me. I call it dowsing with future possibilities. One part of me is in the NOW,but another part is mindful of OPPORTUNITIES and SYNCHRONIZED INTUITION. It's one thing to recognize future possibilities i.e. be able to imagine them,but it's another to take immediate advantage and go with it in ACTION. There are times in this mode when I want to push the envelope further and employ ACTIVE IMAGINATION to actually MAKE stuff happen. This is not totally unrelated to magic,a point which Jung ,previously mentioned was quite aware of.
  • Re: coincidence?

    Tue, March 25, 2008 - 7:33 PM
    I too thought of the Celestine Prophecy right away.

    I think there are no coincidences, I think synchronicity abounds all around us. I suspect much of it evolves from our conscious and subconscious desire/manifestations. The more aware we are, the better we can manifest. I see them as moments of great opportunity for certain.

    Deja Vu plays here too. When I start to experience it, I work really hard to go back to where I first had the vision/experience. I look for patterns of the first and second moment. I feel that deja vu calls us to be extra aware- we are on the path we laid and that there is a lot of power in the moments and days of its unfolding.

    Trouble is I have such a memory for patterns, there are times I think things are connected more than they are, and sometimes I get suspicious instead of feeling inspired by the possibility. It is a hard balancing point sometimes.

    You remember that Police Song.... Sorry so long- it just fits.

    Syncronicity

    With one breath, with one flow
    You will know
    Synchronicity

    A sleep trance, a dream dance,
    A shared romance,
    Synchronicity

    A connecting principle,
    Linked to the invisible
    Almost imperceptible
    Something inexpressible.
    Science insusceptible
    Logic so inflexible
    Causally connectible
    Yet nothing is invincible.

    If we share this nightmare
    Then we can dream
    Spiritus mundi.

    If you act, as you think,
    The missing link,
    Synchronicity.

    We know you, they know me
    Extrasensory
    Synchronicity.

    A star fall, a phone call,
    It joins all,
    Synchronicity.

    It's so deep, it's so wide
    Your inside
    Synchronicity.

    Effect without a cause
    Sub-atomic laws, scientific pause
    Synchronicity


  • Re: coincidence?

    Fri, March 28, 2008 - 10:44 AM
    From the Merriam Webster's Collegiate Dictionary:

    COINCIDE: [ML "coincidere," fr. L co- +incidere --to fall on; more at "chance" (1719)
    1. a: to occupy the same place in space or time
    b: to occupy exactly corresponding or equivalent positions
    on a scale or in a series

    2. : to correspond in nature, character, or function

    3. : to be in accord or agreement

    COINCIDENCE:
    1. : the act or condition of coinciding: Correspondence

    2. : the occurrence of events that happen at the same time
    by accident but seem to have some connection
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    I like to choose my FAVORITE definition....and then make it special.

    This is mine: Correspond-DANCE!
  • Re: coincidence?

    Sun, March 30, 2008 - 10:50 PM
    Om Shanti

    My humble views.
    Coincidence for us humans,lost in a maaya , but well in the predetermined lines for the Almighty.Its a part of the Almightys plan for us or for the universe in general.
    Nothing exists without a purpose.

    Om Shanti
  • Re: coincidence?

    Mon, March 31, 2008 - 7:59 AM
    I just happened to find this webpage with some really interesting COINCIDENCES on it:

    rockanuj.tblog.com/post/1969978372
    • Re: coincidence?

      Wed, April 2, 2008 - 2:38 PM
      That was great.

      I wish Mark Twain had made it on there, given he was born and died under Haley's Comet.

      Christians still admire him and think of him as very christian- SOOO funny!
      • Re: coincidence?

        Fri, April 4, 2008 - 12:33 AM
        He was a rascalian in his youth.
        My grandmother knew him when he was a boy in Hannibal,Missouri and had a wonderful story of one of his exploits. She used to refer to him as, "that Clemens boy" long after his death...LOL

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