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Lilith in Scorpio

topic posted Thu, October 4, 2007 - 10:46 AM by  MaryEllen
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<excerpted from Interpreting Lilith by D.G. Jay (1981), a book specifically for Dark Moon Lilith, but I believe the interpretation can be applied, liberally, to all the Lilith forms, especially if you are still confused about which witch is which>


With Lilith in Scorpio there is exaggerated emphasis on pride, ambition and/or challenge. The inner need for challenge is so magnified, as to make it a prime necessity within the chosen work. This one cannot remain long where simply a working routine predominates. Instead he must find another outlet for the overstate investigative urges. This, in order to eventually help set in motion the kind of changes he determines are needed in the work atmosphere & to do away with whatever (or whoever) is obsolete. Selfishly applied it brings his own obsolescence down upon himself.

There is a deep hunger for control that is, for the most part, undetectable in early life. This remains so, until a creative outlet or area within the vocation is found that is challenging enough to qualify for the powerful releases of his reform & super-perfectionistic drives, in a socially acceptable manner.

There is a persistent draw to the unknown or supposed impossible. They are valuable people in research work; investigation; in any one of the medical or metaphysical arts; or business, where they may enjoy a delicious new set of challenges over & over within the career. Divine release from wells of submerged tension comes in the overcoming. Where there is emotional objectivity, Lilith in Scorpio gives a strong scientific bent which can be brilliantly released.

In Scorpio, Lilith causes the person to feel an insistent need to reach beyond himself, to uncover hidden areas of/or attached to the work, so that they may be overcome. The extremism of Lilith in the extremist sign of Scorpio may cruelly surface to the detriment of the individual, if the exaggerated personalization or overstated pride is misguided, as in the case of Richard Nixon.

These people are basically loners, contrary to outward appearances, with a near reverence for the use of strategy. They believe that growth can only come from attempting to reach beyond their stretch, so to speak & that the only failure comes from not trying. Change is what counts & opposing strength is respected.

In personal areas, they need to learn to recognize when the time arrives that the real victory is in the letting go, or suffer the emotional purging they bring down upon themselves that acts as a disciplining factor, that will, hopefully, leave them the wiser. The cookies in the jar to be let go of are the desire of power on the mundane level. They too fully understand power over others & the goal once set in motion is seldom turned away from, unless this person can detach enough to gain perspective.

Persons with Lilith in Scorpio appear extremely controlled as a way of compensating socially, to deny the powerful tensions that drive them from within. They are not above deliberately putting on excessive weight in some cases, to protect their vulnerability to emotional enslavement to another sensed in anticipated romantic relationships. There are strong (though not necessarily voiced) opinions one way or the other on any subject that interests them. However, for the most part it is conformistly held in check to avoid unnecessary exposure of the self, but he may abruptly disappear when others tread too closely on HIS truth ~ as those close to him can testify.

An early sexual awareness is intensely felt, but is kept to the self, lest a surfacing of something they haven't yet learned to handle is misunderstood or troublesome beyond their mein. One student made reference to this as, :making sure you can handle the dragon before unleashing it".

In the comparisons children automatically make to one another, the difference is sensed, which in turn is inwardly subject to denial (bottled up). It manifests in later years as a disarming magnetism that is difficult to ignore when keen interest is directed from them to another.

When desire is aroused, for whatever reason, the concentration of feeling becomes an intensely persuasive social over-charm exuded over the object of interest. Under ordinary circumstances it is not visible. Quite the contrary, it is seen on those rare occasions when the person anticipates something challenging & then it is quite automatic. The Lilithian energy, released through the powerful desire nature of Scorpio, has a quality of fascination that draws, not unlike Neptune, bit is far stronger. It is very unique to watch & is manipulative toward the desired effect (probably unconscious). Magnetism seems to exude from every pore at that time. When the desire of 'impressing' interest is over, the noticeable persuasive quality & particularly the brilliance in the eyes, dims. There is this hypnotic brightening of themselves that is the giveaway of one with Lilith in Scorpio.

In Scorpio, Lilith magnifies whatever the degree of emotional instability that lies in the makeup, which has a great resource from deep wells of tension.

When aspected with Pluto, denial of sexual expression is not uncommon. Celibacy may be preferred, forced or accepted by choice, as an answer to an unpleasant or unhealthy situation. The energy may eventually break out into strong metaphysical interest to develop the stretch into the unknown this one desires.

When desire is motivated by intellectual, creative or social-esthetic considerations, detachment (as the impersonal) overcomes the personal, underscoring a dedicated one-pointed perseverance that will not back away from any challenge to achievement in the chosen field.

Power of one kind or another is the signature of one with Lilith in Scorpio.

examples:
Annie Besant
Walt Disney
Uri Geller
Samuel Goldwyn
Patricia Hearst
Peter Hurkos
Christine Jorgensen
John Lennon
Marilyn Monroe
Richard Nixon
Sigmund Romberg
Pancho Villa


& me

love all-ways,
mem
posted by:
MaryEllen
SF Bay Area
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  • Re: Lilith in Scorpio

    Thu, October 4, 2007 - 10:40 PM
    "With Lilith in Scorpio there is exaggerated emphasis on pride, ambition and/or challenge. The inner need for challenge is so magnified, as to make it a prime necessity within the chosen work. This one cannot remain long where simply a working routine predominates. Instead he must find another outlet for the overstate investigative urges. This, in order to eventually help set in motion the kind of changes he determines are needed in the work atmosphere & to do away with whatever (or whoever) is obsolete. Selfishly applied it brings his own obsolescence down upon himself."

    Fits to a tee....even the second part...House building works for all this..I can tear it down too, and often do, just before I rebuild it..Ya and the "Oh I've never done that before, But I can do it" Then it's like war, I'll do it dam it, and I'll win...
    Funny-- Scorpio-- Aggresively Re-arange matter-Taurus...Pluto and Mars in sync...Both in 10th. good thing huh...lol...
    Cool read Mem thanx...
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    Re: Lilith in Scorpio

    Mon, October 8, 2007 - 9:49 AM
    ..and me too...

    altho i vibe with the general statelment, i think the 'handling of the dragon before unleashing it ' needs a bit of detailed clarity ..the handling is a bit of an illusion, or a double bind, and maybe the basis for inner tension, for we sooner or later know that handling or controlling it is out of the question untill it has been unleashed and understood many a time throught the years.
    there can't be one without the other.
    so, over the years i've learned to feed the inner beast a feast of movement, the highly intellectual and so called impossible, and good romp or martial arts session, problem solving, home renos and lots of nature. i've dearly learned that a fed beast is a happy beast indeed...and this does not necessarily mean destroying the self in the process...
    altho during that destruction process, mostly in my teens, i've also learned that from it comes creation. fear is an illusion, and the beast is there to eat it up yum, to filter all that which would have otherwise hurt me. that which did not kill me made me stronger.

    thanks for this stimulating thread mem...i've never shared this so openly before...
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      Re: Lilith in Scorpio

      Mon, October 8, 2007 - 9:52 AM
      ps - the rest fits to a tee.....hee-heee!
      • Re: Lilith in Scorpio

        Mon, October 8, 2007 - 7:06 PM
        there is an art to finding the right way to let it out to play so to speak, were you don't cause alot of damage to something you really don't want to damage, self or others..
        But also not just bottle it up..
  • Re: Lilith in Scorpio

    Mon, November 5, 2007 - 7:28 PM
    Hi All =)

    I've been trying to find out more about Lilith and this seems to be the only place I've found has information about yet I would like to know about its aspects with other planets.

    We'll as a good aquarian I Am, I have:

    Moon in scorpio in 2nd house
    Pluto in 2nd house - in libra
    And Lilith in scorpio in 2nd house as well
    That, adding that my Chiron in Taurus is house 8th. (scorpio's)

    I Really appreciate any information related. but more over just the company of people with same interests.

    B.T.W I don't find Lilith that doomed for men. That's a nit of a believe system.

    Anyhow, much love for you all =)

    These are my details if you feel like checking my chart. I love doing that so I guess someone here will ;)

    Cheers!

    Lucas

    27th January /81
    9:05 Pm
    Bogota. Colombia

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