I started this tribe because I've found many people to be curious about Datura, and even more people are badly informed about her. Of course you're gonna have a bad trip if you make a tea from 60 leaves and boil it for 2 hours. Yikes.
It seems that Datura is picky. So we must be as well. She inspires some kind of indulgence, and everyone takes too much. Start out small, smoke a little and gauge the effects. She doesn't bite if you don't bite first. RESPECT.
It seems that Datura is picky. So we must be as well. She inspires some kind of indulgence, and everyone takes too much. Start out small, smoke a little and gauge the effects. She doesn't bite if you don't bite first. RESPECT.
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Sat, July 2, 2005 - 1:15 PMI have never heard of Datura before this. Looked it up on Wikipedia, and am curious as to where it gorws. Some of it is called desert, but listed as being used in the Revolutionary War to incapacitate soldiers. -
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Sat, July 2, 2005 - 3:06 PM>>am curious as to where it gorws.
All over the place. I am in the SF East Bay and my Angel Trumpet is just starting to bloom. I planted Moonflowers, which do not seem to have come up. I also grow Morning Glories. They are not datura but ipomoea. I'm hoping to get some Belladonna and Hemlock as well, but that may have to wait until next year. . .I think I've waited to long to go and dig it up.
I have Oriental Poppy seeds but am still trying to figure out if I can go to jail for just growing them or if I have to actually slash them to get the opium before the Feds will descend on me. :)
I don't use any of these plants, I'm just fascinated by them and they are lovely. -
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Mon, July 4, 2005 - 9:46 AMI live in San Diego and Riverside and see her growing everywhere. She likes the sides of freeways, ditches, areas with runoff, etc. Wherever people have been. Take a hike and you're almost sure to find her.
Some people think that the wide spread of Datura is due solely to humans. I've noticed she springs up wherever there's a lot of activity. For instance, there's a spot between two large hills where people hang out a lot, and she grows everywhere there, but nowhere in the surrounding area where no one hangs out. It makes me think she has a special relationship to humans and wants to be near them.
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Fri, August 31, 2007 - 9:56 AMDatura is also called Jimson weed (St. Johnstown weed) for poisoning most of the inhabitants of that town, who harvested the growing tips, thinking they were food. (i have always wondered at beings/persons that smell her, and never heed the warning she presents in her odor.
Gwenny- when you say 'oriental' poppy, i am assuming you are referring to somniferum strains. And it is legal to grow them. It is illegal for the police to notice that one has scored the newly formed poppy pod. Grow them in the backyard, and be aware of the neighbors watching the scoring. The alkaloid salts from datura flowers (dry, leave in a jar, until a 'frost' develops. add a tiny bit of this to freshly collected poppy sap) added to the poppy latex can yield a wonderful, colorful evening, that is quite unique. -
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Fri, August 31, 2007 - 9:58 AMI usually do not beleive in promoting a particular business, but check out horizonherbs.com. Ricco carries a nice variety of datura persons. He also carries quite a few intresting and hard to find entheogenic plant seeds.
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Thu, July 27, 2006 - 1:36 AMI know you said "freeways" but where exactly can I find Datura in San Diego? Off the 8? 5? 805? 15? Mission Valley? Carlsbad? A North County Times article said it grows off the 5 in Carlsbad but I don't want to drive that far if I don't have to. I had a friend who tried Datura once and I think he found it on the 8 but he never said where. Any helpful hints? I've been a psychonaut for a couple of years, have done a lot of reading about Datura and would love to see what I can find out about myself. -
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Wed, August 9, 2006 - 9:52 PMNumerous varieties are available as seed from nurseries, as well as whole plants. Inoxia, in particular is a popular garden plant, as is Purple horn of Plenty (meteloides). They are extremely easy to grow, and whilst wild plants are hugely powerful and there is evidence they filter out pollutants better than most plants, growing a plant yourself is a guarantee to bond with it better, and perhaps a good way to respect her power, by nurturing from the get go.
Alchemy-works.com has several varieties and the seeds are always viable.
As far as local, there are tons of datura plants in old town san diego, and off the 15? ridiculous. most of that is stramonium. i prefer inoxia, but stramonium is a noble lady. However, "trying" anything without guidance, or at least a sitter, is foolish. Datura is a powerful Queen, and is not afraid to bite back.
Praise rampant to the Green Queen,
J
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Tue, March 6, 2007 - 9:33 AMNamaste. Your tribe header says never eat datura, but arguably the best report I've read on erowid is about chewing a couple of leaves and going for a run, which sounds truly divine, the FDA "poison" listing notwithstanding. I had assumed folks would follow Castenada's methods, but that seems not to be the case either (maybe I'm just getting old.) I am open to finding a new friend as it seems likely salvia is about to be classed as schedule 1 in my state. I haven't seen much about tea, but think that could be a viable means of meeting this ally. If not 60 leaves boiled to 2 hours, what about five steeped for 5 minutes? How long would a hypothetical investigator expect to take before being safe to drive to the dayjob?
