New men and spirituality book

topic posted Sat, June 13, 2009 - 9:45 PM by  mrman
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Numen, Old Men: Contemporary Masculine Spiritualities and the Problem of Patriarchy
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Since the early 1990s there have been various waves of interest in what is often described as “masculine spirituality”. While diverse, a commonality among these interests has been a concern that spirituality has become too feminine, and that men’s experiences of the spiritual are being marginalized. Masculine spirituality is therefore about promoting what it perceives to be authentic masculine characteristics within a spiritual context. By examining the nature of these characteristics, Numen, Old Men argues that masculine spirituality is little more than a thinly veiled patriarchal spirituality. The mythopoetic, evangelical, and to a lesser extent Catholic men’s movements all promote a heteropatriarchal spirituality by appealing to neo-Jungian archetypes of a combative and oppressive nature, or understanding men’s role as biblically ordained leader of the family. Numen, Old Men then examines Ken Wilber’s integral spirituality which aims to honour and transcend both the masculine and feminine, but which privileges the former to the extent where it becomes another masculine spirituality, with all its inherent patriarchal problems. Gay spirituality is then offered as a form of masculine spirituality which to a large degree resists patriarchal tendencies, suggesting a queering of spirituality could be useful for all men, both gay and straight.

Excerpted here:
www.realitysandwich.com/mascul...riarchy
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mrman
New York City
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  • Re: New men and spirituality book

    Sun, June 14, 2009 - 10:26 AM
    Interesting material.

    From what I read of the excerpt, I agree with a lot of it.

    Still, the question remains: How do we reclaim our masculine nature within a sub-culture that encourages men to betray themselves?

    While the blurb did not elaborate on his concluding ideas, he does say this:

    <Gay spirituality is then offered as a form of masculine spirituality which to a large degree resists patriarchal tendencies, suggesting a queering of spirituality could be useful for all men, both gay and straight.>

    Can spirituality be "gay" or "straight"? And if it could, why would one sexual orientation expect another sexual orientation to adopt its' premises?

    All in all though, great discussion and food for thought.

    David
    • Re: New men and spirituality book

      Mon, June 15, 2009 - 1:34 PM
      I also wonder whether in some ways the question of gay/straight isn't just a red herring here. I think breaking free of patriarchy is perhaps at core a matter of men dropping down more fully into their own bodies and direct of experience of their bodies--something that patriarchal understandings of masuclinity actively discourages. When men do that, we learn how to understand our masculinity without defining it in terms of binary oppositions. Then we can move that deepened understanding forward into how we relate to others sexually and spiritually, and how we relate to the Transcendent. Dropping down into experience and feeling like that, in order to embrace everything in a full experience of being embodied as a man that's filtered out by patriarchal models, may be profoundly queer, because non-patriarchal and non-normative. But it's not intrinsically any more homosexual than heterosexual.

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