Deep breath.
I've come to the conclusion I need to expand my creativity wardrobe. That being said I am going to attempt to do something sparkly.... ok. not sparkly per say, but more for the elegant sophisticated side of things. And I was wanting to do beads and fringe *gasp*... with the circle skirt (the shira one, with the cute splits in the front) .
When one does all of this stuff, do you attach it? I mean I have seen a lot of skirts where the beading is right on it the skirt via applique. I would like it to NOT be attached, but I guess then that begs the question, what do you do over the skirt where there are the slits? Is it like just attached to the elastic that goes around and you hope the belt stays there and covers it?
I'm kind of nervous getting into this because usually it isn't really my thing but I figured I needed something a step up from what I have and that was how I was going to do it, but it's so much work and I don't have hands on experiance with it as well as I haven't gotten to paw over anybody's peices to get the feel for how they are put together.
Thoughts? Suggestions... last words of advice, like DON"T DO IT?!?!
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I've come to the conclusion I need to expand my creativity wardrobe. That being said I am going to attempt to do something sparkly.... ok. not sparkly per say, but more for the elegant sophisticated side of things. And I was wanting to do beads and fringe *gasp*... with the circle skirt (the shira one, with the cute splits in the front) .
When one does all of this stuff, do you attach it? I mean I have seen a lot of skirts where the beading is right on it the skirt via applique. I would like it to NOT be attached, but I guess then that begs the question, what do you do over the skirt where there are the slits? Is it like just attached to the elastic that goes around and you hope the belt stays there and covers it?
I'm kind of nervous getting into this because usually it isn't really my thing but I figured I needed something a step up from what I have and that was how I was going to do it, but it's so much work and I don't have hands on experiance with it as well as I haven't gotten to paw over anybody's peices to get the feel for how they are put together.
Thoughts? Suggestions... last words of advice, like DON"T DO IT?!?!
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 11:58 AMBasha -
Relax! It's not as complicated as it sounds. ;-)
1. Circle skirt with slits = (3) half circle sections - sew (2) of these together / typically for the backside - the (1) remaining half circle is worn on the front - see, no actual splits / just not sewn together ;-)
a. if you don't want the splits to go all the way to the waist, you can stitch them down to where ever is most comfortable for you
b. another opton, leave only one side open
2. Belt = from my meager experience & knowledge
a. the base is a sturdy fabric or thick interfacing - cut to a shape that flatters you - look at the Sugar Petals website for an idea of the different cuts - and study the "fitting-a-belt"info on shira.net
b. said base is covered with fabric (??matching the bra??) and then beaded and fringed
c. inside of belt base is covered with another fabric <one with a *rough* texture to help keep it from sliding>
d. on the back and sides of your belt - you might want to stitch small loops of fabric so you can safety pin the skirt & belt together
Suggestion =
Don't go "whole hog" on your first belt. I'm afraid you'll get overwhelmed and give up. Shoot, I have hands-on experience and I've got unfinished pieces in the closet because it does get to be a bit much. It's not cheating if you can find a piece of real sparkly fabric (or thrift store goody) to use - you can always add beads and fringe. A good fitting belt base pattern is the key here.
Oops! gotta go
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:58 PMDon't be nervous you can do it!!
Most belts are not attached to the skirt. This allows you to mix and match the belt with any skirt or pants.
Circle skirts are really easy to make. Mine have a casing at the top with elastic threaded through. The full circle in back is not connected to the half circle in front, so I can slide the pieces close together for more coverage, or open them wide apart to show off harem pants. Back in the 70s and 80s dancers often wore skirts with huge splits and NO harem pants to show off a lot of leg. I never felt comfortable with that style on me. A well placed safety pin or two helps keep everything in place.
My suggestion is to start with the skirt. They look nice with hipscarves, a belt is not necessary. You could buy a pattern (Artemis Imports carries one), but the pieces are just semi-circles, so IMHO, a pattern is not worth the money. Here's some links on how to make them.
shira.net/make-cskirt.htm
www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Ful...Dance-Skirt
www.sevenveils.co.uk/learnin...cleskirt
Bras and belts are a little more complicated. Artemis Imports www.artemisimports.com carries patterns with instructions for making belts and bras, but I'm sure you'll find instructions on the 'net if you do a Google search.
To make a belt, first make the shape with heavy paper, and fit it to your body. Then use that paper pattern to cut out several layers of heavy, stiff fabric (like the denim from an old pair of jeans), and stitch them together. Then add a seam allowance to the pattern, and use it to cut the cover fabric and the lining. Denim is fine for lining, velvet is luxurious & helps the belt stay in place.
Bras are a little more complicated. Stretch fabric is a lot easier to work with and a lot more forgiving than woven fabrics. Sometimes the covering and decorations can cause the cup size to "shrink", so you might want to start with a base bra one cup size above your normal size.
Dina Lydia The Costume Goddess and Dawn Devine both have several excellent books that walk you step by step through the process of creating a belt and bra. If your nervous, investing in a book might be a good idea.
Dina's site is www.costumegoddess.com/CGtellsall2.htm
Dawn's is www.davina.org/
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 2:19 PMthanks ladies..
I've made three different bra's at point... just not the sparkly beaded kind.
I'll have to check out sugar petals, I was thinking of going w/ their cups anyway just so I can buy the bra cups.. I was at vickies yesterday w/ the roommie and I wandered over to look and found some cool ones but it was such a heart ache to pay 50 bucks on a bra I was going to dismantle. I iddn't realize they had stuff for belt whooosits.
I'm fairly confident w/ shira's stuff I can whip up a circle skirt. (ok so we will ignore that I don't have a sewing machine at this point) I've made monsterloons and one full normal tribal circle skirt... so I think I got that.
Just didn't know about the belt aspect.
I think the difference I'll need to do for the belt is more layering AFTER the beads and things go on... and a much better fit since the skirt is much more close with flowie fabric than the stiffer cottons I had used. I wanted something elegant and sohpisticated rather than earthy. (not that earthy isn't, but it isn't airy... that's the word.. .airy.)
Ok.
And I totally agree w/ not going hog wild. Beading is going to take me a bit, its not really quiet my thing... the costume goddess of beads Miss Skinner told me... find an applique you like and use and embellish that, so I'll probably do something like that. It's just a different feel all together, so I wanted to gether some ducks and advice before I jumped!
Thanks ladies! I'll keep ya'll posted, but it's going to be ridiculously slow process, still recouping from the last costume... and prepairing for new truck tires, and a new gd windshield.... repaving the road and the trucker destroyed my windshield. bummer, there went the new sewing machine for a few months! -
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:46 PMBasha -
No sewing machine - circle skirt - let's see, you'll have to sew one seam to join 2 of the half circles and the elastic casing - use a fabric that doesn't fray and you won't have to hem it - use trim on the edges ((like tiny string sequins))
The cutting out of a circle skirt is always the worst for me ((but I hate that part of making anything anyway)). Oh, and don't forget to allow for bias stretch hang time.
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 5:11 AMthat whole hang bias thing is what's going to kill me! hurry up and wait... i totally didn't do it on the first skirt I ever made, and while it works, it's very obvious to me that it stretched a bit. I do my best w/ damage control w/ never ever hanging it up.
...and that no sewing machine, what a drag. Joanne's has a sale, they have a singer 400 bucks: off a hundred. so down to 299 (come on its 300) I'm not sure I'm ready to take the plunge, I want to get the one I want, which really I just need a forward and back plus zig sag, I'm afraid to get one of the hooah new fangled ones. They are so complicated (like a washermachine... the less complicated, the less likely it is to break!). But I did some research... NO PLASTIC PARTS! I'm going to hop over to Good will this weekend and see if I can get an old one for the time being. For now I hand sew everything... yep. hems and all.
Do they make floaty fabrics that don't fray? I was kind of resigned to just make it and do it by hand as best I could.
Any tips for cutting, it was more or less fudged on a big round table last time. Now i have the floor. = / pin everything I'm assuming and don't rush! -
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 5:44 AMBasha,
I bought an *emergency* machine at WallyWorld for $60.00. I now have (2) that need repair - which will probably cost $50-$75 (if I'm lucky) just for anyone to look at them. The new machine is surprisingly quiet - does basic straight & zigzag stitches - has an automatic button hole setting and a couple of other things I haven't looked at yet.
Bias stretch in a hurry - once the skirt is made, wet it - as in dripping, heavy as *&&% wet - pin it to the hanger all along the waistband and let it hang - do this several times over a few days - it may not take all the bias stretch out, but it will get a lot, if not most, of it
Cutting out a circle skirt - I used shira.net for the math ;-) I printed out her instructions and went slowly and my first skirt turned out fine. I've made a pattern since then and I've fine-tuned the process to suit me and the way I work. There is a lot of info out there about circle skirts - pick one - and stick to that one until you get familiar with the process.
And yes, there are floaty fabrics that won't fray. When you go looking, find the cut edge to check for fraying. No matter how pretty the fabric, if it frays - it's going to be more difficult to work by hand.
;-) ~E
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 5:59 AMI made my first circle skirt completely by hand back around 1980 or so. I was a starving college student who found the material at a flea market. No $$ for a machine. My boyfriend (now husband) was a video addict even way back then. He likes me to just sit there in the room with him and watch. Now, I'm not much of a TV person myself, so sewing the skirt by hand took a couple of weeks but it gave me something to do while sitting there.. -
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 3:14 PMsee.. my ex was like that. he would play computer games the whole time i was visiting, and then accuse me of not making time for him!
that was the least of his problems though....
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Wed, May 14, 2008 - 5:38 AMperfect bras that you can add cups to are from bealls. they have little 22 dollar ones that are awesome bases and the straps are interchangeable. I made my red one in my pic from their bras.
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Re: Belt/Skirt question
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 7:18 PMyou can also snap the belt onto the skirt at the hips to keep it from spinning around your waist and not lining up with the skirt right. if you put all your male snaps on belts and female snaps on skirts (or vice-verses, so long as it's consistent) and put them at the same spots then you can switch all your belts to all your skirts (unless they are different sizes ^_~)