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Does anyone have a link for a tutorial or how-to on the bra straps that criss-cross in the back, loop through the D-rings, and tie at the spine? I've searched through the posts and I can only find examples and pictures of the bra.
Thanks! :)
Thanks! :)
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:37 AMI learned how to do this from Liora at: people.tribe.net/lauren_liora She's got great photo examples as well.
basically, you take (or construct) your bra base (with boobs and side pices). Where the bra straps normally attach to the top part of the boobs, attach a long strip (a few feet) of quilt binding to each. When you construct your side pieces, adjust the length to show as much bare back for the criss cross - maybe make each side 2 inches shorter than a normal bra. On the ends of the bra side pieces, attach your d-rings or make loops out of the quilt binding - you can make two or four loops, I like four for stability. When you're ready to wear it, criss-cross and lace the long strips through the loops. wha lah. -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 11:49 AMThis is the same method I use, you explained it very well, Kat.
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 3:00 PMThis is how I do it (I use O-rings instead of D-rings, because the D-rings move on me & get all wonky):
First, you remove the straps completely & replace with really long ties or ribbon, sewing them down only to the front part of the bra where the strap meets the cup. Second, you cut off the hooks & eyes part on the back/band, then pass the "stubs" that are left through the O-rings & sew the "stub" to itself so it is permanently attached to the o-ring. Then when you put it on, you take the ties from the from the front & bring them around to the o-rings in the back (you can either bring them straight back & through the corresponding ring OR you can criss-cross them and bring them through the opposite o-ring -- if your bra can go slightly "halter" without getting all weird). Finally, you bring the straps together (at the center of your back) and tie them.
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 3:10 PMThanks everyone. I'm going to attempt this and put up a picture when I (finally) get done. I've been working on this bra for a month now! :O -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Mon, April 14, 2008 - 7:01 PMI started a d-ring bra this weekend. I should have asked for directions, but I just looked at a photo. I completely covered the cups, cut off sides and replated them with matching fabric I used from the cups but lined with interfacing. Where the strap used to connect at the cup, I made a loop to hold the ring out of interfacing-lined fabric. The new sides I added are a few inches shorter than the old ones, and that is where the other loop is connected. I made long ribbons out of cotton fabric, and I attached them to the rings that are attached to the cups. It took me a few hours to get that done because the bra I decided to use once upon a time had lace and it took me a while to rip it apart and recover the thing. Covering cups always takes me longer than I think it will. You can just redo the sides out of fabric that matches the bra if you want to save some time or you could use stretchy fabric. (Personally, I like to make sure that my dance bras no longer look like underwear!) -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 12:38 AMBras have been bane of my belly dance existence- I can never seem to get the bra right! I'm about to work on yet another model, and will use some of these suggestions. I've also considered (but haven't tried) just cutting the straps and replacing them with covered elastic in a criss-cross and putting the crazy thing over my head. Is that just ridiculous? -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Fri, April 18, 2008 - 5:08 AMyeah don't go with over the head... I had one that I didn't design that way but it sort of worked out that way. OMG what a nightmare. It's so much easier if you can pop a strap somewhere, I hate having to take a strap over my head as usually my hair is way bigger than the space running from top of boob around neck to the other top. It's just no fun trying to manuever around hair, yarn shells, quills and flowers!!
Then if you put it on before the hair/make up (I usually start with make up and move into hair then start gettting dressed and then finish up the hair) you risk getting make up on it and that thought bothers me tremendously!
Keep working on it it isn't as bad as it seems and it will save you the heartache later! -
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Sat, April 19, 2008 - 1:01 AMThanks for talking some sense into me- I'll have to figure something else out. Straight ribbon doesn't give me enough support though- I definitely need some elastic in there. Maybe if I sew ribbons to elastic, then have the elastic in the front area and cover it, then the robbons tied in the back...? -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 4:58 AMLOL... just a fair warning, it REALLY is a pain in the ass, I try to make all my straps detachable, the back ones and the halter because if I need to change quickly or come half dressed due to work issues and not wanting to put said bra on at work, whatever, so I'll get half dressed, having that flexibility makes my life soooo much easier!
i totally agree though, straight ribbon just doesn't do it for me. The first one I made, was very very cool, it looks awesome *minus the beading has stretched and settled so there are little bits of string poking through* :( anyway, the sides are very cool two ribbons going back to tie in the back on each side, cool open back with strap look... but they are just straight ribbon... and I hate it.
The second one I made is pretty comfy because I essentially didn't alter the back at all, I left the straps and made them look cool... it's very stretchy... heavy so I never go anywhere without a choli underneath it, but it really enhances it because it's tribal/gypsy with shells and tapestry and tassels.
Ok... great two extremes
I FINALLY made one that fits in the middle. And I did just that... elastic plus ribbon. Essentially though what it is is the side of the bra was left in tact... I folded the edge where the hook/eye part was over itself and with the metal O ring there..... For this one I can attach either a metal belt or black velvet ribbon for a softer look.
But the point isssss.... the elastic on the side bands are left in tact for flexibility and breathing room and the ribbon or leather or what have you creates the stability. I'll try to get pictures detailing it, I'm sure someone else has them somewhere too.
Anyway, my two... or three cents... I guess it's closer to 5$ worth but there you have it. trial and error at its finest. I'll never make another bra w/o elastic and something unstretchy! -
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Re: Criss-cross Bra Construction?
Sat, April 19, 2008 - 11:00 AMYeah, I always leave the sides- learned that the hard way. My last bra I made from one of those strapless convertible bras with all the detachable straps- that was ok except the straps were a little too thin in the end for the amount of support I needed, so I ended up adding another strap about an inch away from each one on the front, and connected them together in a kind of triangle formation. Then I could just hook it on on the back. Actually, I still can't get the damn thing on by myself!
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