Hi, i'm hoping someone can help me with replacing the skins on my fathers drums.He recently passed and we have quite a few that need fixing.He was a great musician and played professional for many years. His legacy lives on in the famous albums he made and his children who cling to our
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 7:48 AMI can help, but I need to know exactly what kind of doumbeks you have. Are they the old "Turkish/Syrian kind that have the rings and the bolts on the outside with the stamped or repoussage decorations or are they the "Egyptian stye" with the recessed bolts? Are they the even older style of hammers steel where the head is glued on? I re-head drums all of the time for people but the techniques are just slightly different depending on the drum. -
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 9:22 PMHi Jeff the drums we have are the old syrian kind that have the bolts and rings on the outside. They are the metal with the tapped engraved design on the outside. Some of them have some dents from shipping do you think if they were tapped out the sound would be ok? I would appreciate any help you can give. Thank you very much for replying. -
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 10:09 PMOkay, this is not that difficult then. The old heads were stretched over a metal ring and then held in place and tightened by the top hoop and bolts to the lower hoop. You need to remove every thing and get and save the "flesh ring" that the original skin was on. This metal hoop is VERY important. Soak that old held in a tub of water until it becomes limp and get that ring.Check the bearing edge on the drum to make certain that it is smooth and there are no breaks or sharp edges. If there are then use some emory cloth and smooth them. Also check the hoops and make certain that they don't have any sharp edges or raised sharp bumps on them, if there are, then smooth them also. It is these sharp edges that can lead to a head failing. Purchase another goatskin that is at least 6 inches larger in diameter than the ring and soak it in a tub of water until it becomes quite limp. Place this very limp, wet and pliable new goat skin over the drumshell and then put that very important ring that you saved over it and pull the excess skin up all around so that you are capturing that ring in the new skin. replace the top hoop (the one with the bolts in it and allow the excess skin to be wedged between the bearing edge of the drum and the hoop and replace the hardware. You want to keep pulling on the excess skin until the flesh ring is almost level with the top of the bearing edge and tighten all of the bolts so that the skin is securely sandwiched in place and everything is very high on the drum. Pull the excess skin hard enough that there aren't any wrinkles and ripples in the drum head but don't tighten to tune anything at this point. The skin is wet and hasn't tightened yet and is very fragile at this point. Don't trim any of the excess skin at this point and be patient. Allow the skin to dry thoroughly for a few days. (it takes a lot longer to thoroughly dry on the flesh ring, so even though it may seem dry to the touch on the head itself, it could still be very wet or damp on the flesh ring. This is where patience is very important....... let it dry.
Once dry, the skin will feel hard, but it will be terribly out of tune and real low. Now start cranking up the bolts going from side to the opposite side (like tightening lug nuts on a tire) and tap the head about an inch and a half in from the rim towards the center of the drum head until you get exactly the same note at each lug. Then once it is equal all around, in quarter turns of the tuning lugs tune it up to where you want it to be. Then very carefully, you can trim off all of the excess skin flush to the hoop (if you are using a sharp knife, don't cut towards the drum head but away from it towards the hoop , please be very careful here, you don't want to damage your new head.)
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Sat, April 26, 2008 - 9:12 AMJeffrey thank you for all the information I really appreciate it!!!! I'm going to get my brother to help me since he is the mechanically inclined one, it doesn't sound to hard. Thanks again!
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 2:41 PMIf you posted pictures of the drums it would help a lot.
"His legacy lives on in the famous albums he made..."
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Fri, April 25, 2008 - 9:44 PMThat's a great idea I will take some pictures. The drums are the old fashion syrian drums, metal with rings and bolts on the outside ring and hand tapped engravings on the outside. My dad played with Mohammed El Bakkar in the 50"s and 60"s and well known in the Syrian community. He played with Hannan a famous arabic singer and donated his time and musical gift to raise money with Danny Thomas for aslac the charity of St. Judes. His name was George David. He has some pretty unique personal drums too.
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Re: How to replace goat skin head for metal dumbek
Sat, April 26, 2008 - 9:49 AMJeffrey's instructions are as usual perfect. I just want to add a couple points. Sometimes the head is "wrapped and tucked" over and under the ring. Don't worry about it, follow Jeffrey's procedure. If you blow it, you can always redo it as long as you haven't cut the head. Though it may be difficult the first times you re-head to judge, you will soon become adept at figuring out whether or not you have a success. Then, when you go to trim the head, you can cut it against the outermost rim while this rim is still protruding above the edge of the drum. Then go for the final tightening. These drums are easy to do. Now, if his ceramics show up, that's when the real fun begins.