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Hi all,
I am looking for a cd with several basic rhythms in an instrumental band setting that would be easy for a beginner to play along with. Any suggestions (or could you please point me to any former posts, I looked but none popped out at me)? Thanks for your help.
Caitlin
I am looking for a cd with several basic rhythms in an instrumental band setting that would be easy for a beginner to play along with. Any suggestions (or could you please point me to any former posts, I looked but none popped out at me)? Thanks for your help.
Caitlin
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Re: Practice Music
Mon, July 20, 2009 - 11:19 AMI can't think of any real professionals who have purposely spent the time and money on making an entire CD doing that. My group, Helm, included several tracks on our CD titled Itneen that has a solid percussion base for Karachi, ciftetelli, sema'i, etc that have a heavier emphasis on the frame drums in the mix to make it easier to practice to. Our new one (Raqset el Sajat), which is for finger cymbals instruction, can also be used to practice drumming. These may help to some degree.
I think what you really are looking for has more to do with the speed of the songs than the simplicity as long as your basic rhythm concepts are solid. One such album that comes to mind is the one with Rabbani's songs done in a setting that feels very much like a jam at someone's house. I can't remember the title right now but I am sure someone here will supply the title for you. Great classic songs, excellent musicians who are there for the music and not just themselves. The LA group, Kan Zaman, is also very strong in this same respect. The percussion section for most of their recordings is led by Faisal Zedan. -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 11:45 AMmark, is it this one?
"Bilafrah" by Ziad Rahbani
anyway, this album is awesome!! someone told me it is music for smoking... um... not cigarettes. -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 12:03 PMAbsolutely the one! Thanks for having a functioning memory. -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 2:12 PMWhat was it they said about memory and funny cigarettes?
I forget.
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 5:24 PMI LOVE that one. And I don't smoke...um...anything.
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 8:25 AMI googled it and found this: bilafrah.blogspot.com/2007/09...977.html
Is that the one?
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 9:46 AMHi Fungus. That's the one. Personally I think anyone playing Middle Eastern music has to own this recording. Great music, great musicians, great arrangements. Percussion section blending perfectly in the sound pocket. If you are just beginning, I think it is easy to tap along. As you progress, you will hear the more intricate embellishments open up for you. -
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Wed, July 22, 2009 - 2:33 PM...and if you time it right you can pretend all the "oh, yeah"s are for you! :-)
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Tue, July 28, 2009 - 12:30 AMI have a few copies of Bilafrash
206-632-1906
erik
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 11:55 AMI don't have any, either. I have over 425 songs on my iTUNES, some of which are "Itneen". Not all of them by any means are Turkish or Arabic. It has taken me that many to find songs I can learn from just by listening, and some by playing along with them.
As Mark said, this presumes you are fluent with the rhythms. Listening (not just hearing) is one-half of becoming fluent. Many of the songs I can now play along with started as rhythmic blurs. For example, "Beats Antique" is kickin my butt, but I figured out "Catepillar". YEY!! FUN SONG! I can play 2, maybe 3 of the songs of the 10 the Toids latest CD. And it's taken me a year to learn those.
Lastly, get rid of the cable hookup to your TV, and spend that time listening, practicing, and playing with others. Play with your ears open, and your ego in check, but without fear of fucking it up. Because you won't learn unless you fuck it up, A LOT! -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 3:22 PMSolace, Jerimiah Soto: Rhythms of the Dance (with Instrumentals)
The Dancing Drum: Issam (rhythms for practice)
Awzan: Arabic Rhythmic Modes Souhail Kaspar (with Taqseems) -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 3:56 PMThanks everyone! I'll definatly check those out. I'm pretty much just trying to find something that I can play with (other than a metronome, although I totally get how invaluable those can be) that my roommates won't mind listening to for a decent period of time. As long as you can hear a definate rhythm in the song, I don't really care what other instruments are with it. -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 4:04 PMThere was one other I saw last year. Let me look on my favorites list and see if I can find it. Come to think of it now, it was something like what you were asking about, Caitlin.
The rhythm
The melody
Both together
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 4:06 PMIn all honesty, now that I'm thinking about it, I really don't even know where to start looking for music, other than the songs/artists you all recomended. I've tried looking at my local library and all they had on the subject was Hossam Ramsy, which isn't bad but there is a point when one needs new music to listen to. So if you could tell me some other places to look or good search key words, that would be really cool, too. Thanks! -
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 5:36 PMRashid Music Sales in NYC for CDs at a very fair price, Jeremiah's stuff and ours are available at cdbaby.com and I think they now have single tracks you can download, fcbd.com also has CDs for sale, and the mega's like iTunes and Amazon have downloads but it's easier, a lot easier, if you know what you want as per title, artist, than just browsing there. You can genre browse on cdbaby quite easily. More to come from other tribe members, I'm sure.
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 7:47 PMSorry, it's hidden somewhere in my favorites. I remember it vividly now. Maybe I'll run into it again.
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Mon, July 20, 2009 - 11:40 PMMusic: Mid-east Belly Dance Music MINUS DRUM by Scott Wilson -
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Tue, July 21, 2009 - 11:29 AMI can testify to the wonderfulness of the Itneen tracks for playing along to -- they make you really excited to be playing and there is room in there for you -- that seems to be key, there needs to be room in it, space, for your line, and the speed needs to be reasonable too -- when you try to play along to Hossam Ramzy and so many others, forget it, you can't even think, it's so fast and complex and full, you can't even hear yourself. When most people make a CD, they're going to really show off, and you're stuck with maintaining the most basic rhythm way in the background, which isn't going to expand your skills. The Rhythms of the Dance also good. A couple of the Beats Antique are stellar---and it can also be really helpful to listen to and play along with stuff that is not strictly Middle Eastern or belly dance, try to insert the ME rhythms you know in there by modifying them, truncating them, it's very interesting how the ear quickly accepts this and stops hearing what you're doing as "middle eastern" -- I do this all the time in my drum group where it's congas, dumbeks, djembes, whatever.
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 1:30 AMCool Dave,
I never heard of that recording. I wish I had something like that
when I first started out.
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Thu, July 30, 2009 - 11:20 AMCaitlin, here's a CD by Uncle Mafufo that goes over 25 rhythms. He gives you the name, counts the beat, verbally gives you the Dtk sequence, and then plays it. His playing gets fancier as he goes along, but you can just stick to the basic rhythm and practice that way. After a while, you can hear what his fills are, and then you can play those too or riff off of him.
unclemafufo.com/shop/cds/2...prod_8.html
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 1:25 AMYeah, I was wondering why noone had mentioned the Uncle Malfufo CDs. They are great to play with.
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Tue, August 11, 2009 - 6:07 AMNourhan Sharif has 4 albums which may be of interest to you. www.last.fm/music/Nourhan+Sharif is thelink at lastfm radio on the net. You can listen to the albums one song at a time in their entirety. There are also links to buy the cds. Or, you can click on the link to play Nourhan Sharif radio and lastfm will take you on a tour of "similar artists". Lots of fun when you want to play along or just hear something new. Cheers!
Melvin
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Wed, August 12, 2009 - 9:09 PMI would say go for raquys instructional kit it is a instruction book a cd and a dvd its a great package