8" Remo Skyndeep head

topic posted Wed, November 5, 2008 - 9:46 AM by  Dustin
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Hello,

I was wanting a 8" Remo Skyndeep head for my Raquy drum, but I am having a hard time finding one. I called Remo and of course they were no help (what the hell is up with that, btw?).

I found this:
www.activemusician.com/item--MD.SD08
But isn't the 3/8" crown too deep for a dumbek?

I am really wanting to get this kind of drum head because I played another drum with it last weekend and was very impressed. I wish Remo would not only be more user friendly (that web site is very confusing), but more helpful if finding something they make and sell.

Any help or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
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Dustin
Oklahoma City
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  • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

    Wed, November 5, 2008 - 11:39 AM
    REMO only sells through it's licensed distributors. That means you have a line of credit and can move a significant volume of their products. MidEast dot com ought to have 8" heads. I can't remember about the 3/8" crowns. I think it's the one that fits though. You want a shallower crown for the Turkish doumbeks.
    • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

      Wed, November 5, 2008 - 12:11 PM
      Well, I got someone on the phone, so I know humans work there ; ) But you think they could tell me who they sell them to at least, so I could call them. Cooperman would be a good business model. I have NEVER had a problem with them (and they love customer feedback).

      The one that Mid-East has is the same one as above, but $10 more. I guess I can order one and then just send it back if it is not, but I wanted to try here since these drum heads are talked about a lot. If this is the one that goes on that Remo soloist dumbek, then it might work.
  • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

    Wed, November 5, 2008 - 12:25 PM
    I have purchased them from activemusician.com and they fit the 8" GEF Raquy drum quite well. My friend Casey Bond plays one that I set up for her like that. Depending on how well cast the Raquy drum is, it should fit like a dream. If it isn't cast well, it may take some tweaking, but it will still fit/ (You may need to smooth down the bearing rim a bit with fine emory cloth to take off any rough edges and heat the head up a bit with a hair dryer or a heating pad, but it will fit and tune up well).
    In the past year or so due to demand from foreign sources, GEF has resorted to buying "seconds" castings from their source to fill the demand for their drums. The resulting drums have NOT been up to their usual standards.
    • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

      Wed, November 5, 2008 - 12:42 PM
      OMG, thank you for this answer! I take back what I said about Remo. I just got off the phone with them a few minutes ago and if this head (the 8" Skyndeep one) does not work out, they can make a custom head. BUT, I will order that Skyndeep one and tell you guys how it goes.

      Since my wife wants to make this her main drum (I just bought this, how did that happen?), I need to get a move on putting a new head on that.

      BTW, Raquy said to me that she has regular replacement heads for $10. Contact her for the info.

      Thanks again Jefferey & Todd!
      • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

        Wed, November 5, 2008 - 2:34 PM
        Damn Dustin! You must have some scarey connections, dude. :-)
        • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

          Thu, November 6, 2008 - 12:33 AM
          Wow, it's official now? GaF has jumped the shark?

          BD-0008-00-SD001 is the designation of the skyndeep head that fits their ergo-doumbek FYI. Shouldn't be too hard to talk them out of one...

          3/4 inch crown seems a bit much to me but I am inclined to believe Jeffrey when he says something.
          • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

            Sat, January 10, 2009 - 7:56 PM
            Hi , looks like to me you want a 8" Doumbek Head for your drum. if you buy a 8" or 9" or 10" skyndeep from Remo.
            those size's will not fit on Egyptian doumbek. unless you be the lucky one. Remo came up with 4 size's of Skyndeep for Mid eastern doumbek and the siz'e are 8" , to 9" with Banjo Style hoop. thats mean the chanel is smaller then original doumbek chanel. lot of mid estern doumbeks are the under the rims are hava a block for that resion like i said you must be lucky to fit Remo's regular doumbek head on your drum i can help with that cause im the one came up with this on buy the way i am working for Remo for past 15 Years . and i can fix all kind of doumbeks and others as well
          • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

            Sat, January 10, 2009 - 7:59 PM
            Hi , looks like to me you want a 8" Doumbek Head for your drum. if you buy a 8" or 9" or 10" skyndeep from Remo.
            those size's will not fit on Egyptian doumbek. unless you be the lucky one. Remo came up with 4 size's of Skyndeep for Mid eastern doumbek and the siz'e are 8" , to 9" with Banjo Style hoop. thats mean the chanel is smaller then original doumbek chanel. lot of mid estern doumbeks are the under the rims are hava a block for that resion like i said you must be lucky to fit Remo's regular doumbek head on your drum i can help with that cause im the one came up with this on buy the way i am working for Remo for past 15 Years . and i can fix all kind of doumbeks and others as well
            oh o forgot the crown of new doumbek head will be 3/8"
            • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

              Tue, January 13, 2009 - 6:59 AM
              What do you mean by "the chanel is smaller than the original doumbek"? I should be getting my Skyndeep head this month and the only thing I was worried about is if the crown was too deep (meaning it would be tuned lower than I want it).
              • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                Wed, January 14, 2009 - 6:08 PM
                Hi i belive you geting a 8" with 1/2" crown , thats the OEM drum head for Soloist and crystal finish
                the new Skyndeep for middle eastern doumbek will be out soon i belive after NAMM. i think: and the Drum head crown will be 3/8" . thats means 1/8" shorther the OEM drum heads.thats i belive everybody looking for
                if thewre is anything else email me and i will let you know for sure it will work on you drum.
                what type of drum you playing?
                thanks
                • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                  Thu, January 15, 2009 - 7:17 AM
                  BTW, what is NAMM?
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                    Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                    Thu, January 15, 2009 - 9:53 AM
                    Hi Dustin,
                    NAMM Show, means International Music Products Association, and u can Google as well
                    i am glad the 1/2" crown will work for your Doumbek,
                    my email is saccois@aol.com if you need something let me know . i Google the GeF 8" Doumbek but didn't find any picture maybe i see if Issam or Donavon has one to see
                    thanks
                    sargis
                    • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                      Thu, January 15, 2009 - 11:54 AM
                      Well, in theory 1/2" should work. I backordered that head a while ago and I am currently checking on it. Mid-East supposedly sells them on their web site, so I might check there is Art Drum ends up not getting it.

                      If that does not work out, I will e-mail you about this. Thank you for your help so far. Those are really good drum heads (I like them better than the regular mylar).


                      If all else fails, I will order a regular head from Raquy.
                      • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                        Thu, January 15, 2009 - 12:25 PM
                        Hey,
                        you are welcome ,
                        well before you order from Raquy please let me know
                        • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                          Thu, January 15, 2009 - 9:00 PM
                          My drum head should be here in about a week, so I will keep you updated. Mid-East had one left ( www.mid-east.com/itemdesc.asp ).

                          I really hope this works out because this drum head is so freak'n awesome! I have one on my regular sized doumbek and one of my sumbatys (my other sumbaty is a Souhail Kaspar model, but I want to keep the mylar head for variety reasons).
                        • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                          Sat, January 24, 2009 - 10:06 PM
                          Hey,

                          We just got back from San Fransico and there was a package containing an 8" Skyndeep head from Mid-East waiting for us. I just put it on my Raquy 4 bolt drum and it sounds really good! I will not be able to tune the doum higher than C#, but that is okay. Man, I love these kinds of drum heads!
                          • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                            Tue, March 31, 2009 - 12:40 AM
                            the model of the head is BD-0008-00-SD001? it fits?
                            • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                              Tue, March 31, 2009 - 7:35 AM
                              Yes, it fits. BUT, it can not be tuned as high as I hoped: which would make the "doum" a D. It is more around "C#" (I am basing that off of a regular tuner). I am very happy with it anyway.
                              • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                Tue, March 31, 2009 - 7:52 AM
                                Next time you come down, I'll show you the cord I rigged up to use as a spacer, if you remind me. You can also use the ring off an old head with the plastic taken off. The sound may change, a bit depending on which one you use. That is, if you really really want the doum to be a "D".. :-)
                                • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                  Tue, March 31, 2009 - 7:13 PM
                                  Thanks Todd. I am happy with the tone anyway (well, my wife is too since she is the one playing my Raquy drum), but I would like to see how you do that since my experimentation of using an old ring (and weed waker wire) have ended in ruined heads.
                                  • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                    Tue, March 31, 2009 - 9:32 PM
                                    Weed wacker... "are you 'fixin' to cut some weeds?" (sorry its the scotch I swear)
                                    • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                      Tue, March 31, 2009 - 9:50 PM
                                      I have purchased several of the SkyDeep heads for the 8" 4 lug GEF doumbeks and they have all fit beautifully and tune easily with plenty of room to tighten it much more. There is no standard to the height of the crown on many of the cast aluminum doumbeks coming from GEF and Egypt, so your experiences may vary. I have not had any of the problems that others have posted here. You must have all gotten them from another batch. I will say that I have noticed that there is a big difference between the current drums coming out of Egypt the last year and a half. They seem thinner and not cast as well. The ones that I have worked with are at least two years old and nice and heavy.
                                      • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                        Wed, April 1, 2009 - 4:28 AM
                                        Issam, working for Nemo as you know, told me he is working with them on this. They are shifting their focus away from their drum more to their heads. He's taking a trip to Turkey this summer to go to some of the bigger manufacturors there to get a feel for the crown depths required, so that REMO can make heads to fit. From what I can tell, REMO's already doing this. It doesn't hurt that the best mass produced drums are already getting more standardized, and are coming out of Turkey. Am I correct that the GeF drums are still coming out of Egypt and are using contractors? That may be part of the challenge with these drums. I don't know, just my logic and gleaned from my and all of y'all's exerience. ("All of y'all" is correct grammar in Texas!)
                              • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                                Tue, March 31, 2009 - 11:32 PM
                                thanks very much!

                                it's not important for me to tune exactly to D. i tuned my Raquy drum to around C# yesterday (with the included clear head) and it's sounds ok :)
  • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

    Mon, November 10, 2008 - 2:27 PM
    I just got an e-mail from Kim at Mid-East mfg, Inc. saying that they just put the 8" Skydeep head on their web site:
    www.mid-east.com/itemdesc.asp
    I believe this is the one that goes on the Remo Soloist dumbek that has an 8" head.

    The only problem is because of how Remo does their orders, it will take two months. I am supposed to be hearing back from the guy at Art Drum (dot com) about this same head. I will keep people informed because these Skyndeep heads rock! (or is that raq?)
    • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

      Wed, November 12, 2008 - 11:46 PM
      I'd wait until activemusician has those, they'll be a lot cheaper there.
      • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

        Thu, November 13, 2008 - 7:11 AM
        That is funny you mentioned it because I am getting this 8" head from www.artdrum.com instead. I bought the 8 5/8" head and the 9" head from Activemusician (they are a lot cheeper for the same thing).
        • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

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          • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

            Wed, July 1, 2009 - 7:06 AM
            Thanks Ted, I will keep that in mind when I need to replace the head on my wife's Raquy drum.

            isfahani, I stopped recommending Art Drum, so no worries there. Thanks for that report, though (it is good for the list to know).
            • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

              Wed, July 1, 2009 - 2:28 PM
              Why have you stopped recommending ArtDrum? I've had pretty good experience with him in the past (albeit, I haven't done business with him for a couple of years now) ...
              • Re: 8" Remo Skyndeep head

                Wed, July 1, 2009 - 9:01 PM
                I had made a back order and he pretty much forgot about me. I had ordered this drum head (see topic title), he gets them through Mid-East, three months latter Mid-East has them and he has not gotten my order filled yet. So, I canceled and spent a few extra dollars to get it from Mid-East because after three months I was tired of waiting.

                THEN after recommending Artdrum to a friend, she orders a drum that should have been in stock and after almost two months of it not getting there, she tries to cancel her order, only to have him stall her even more (and it was never answered why he did not have a standard black Alexandria dumbek after all that time). So, I got an ear full after that from her. Thankfully she got her money back, but after seeing the pattern, I decided to pay extra to go through Mid-East because I have never had any problems through them (or Active Musician).

                So now, I am cautious about recommending on-line stores to people.

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