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      <title>Climate action camp in Hamburg (germany) 15. - 24. August 2008 / Dragonmill News</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;Ahoi :)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:36:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2008-08-02T17:36:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>please come help open source think tank</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i'm pagan and ecologically conscious.
&lt;br/&gt;the solutions are geothermal power and solar power.
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&lt;br/&gt;please come help me start up an open source think tank.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://mytalktoday.com/forum/forum.php
&lt;br/&gt;http://mytalktoday.com/forum/index.php&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:47:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>prometheusPAN</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-06-24T11:47:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>ACTION ALERT: Whaling Scandal</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;FWD from GreenPeace:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;ACTION ALERT: Whaling Scandal
&lt;br/&gt;Help us win in Japan
&lt;br/&gt;Breaking news: stolen whale meat scandal
&lt;br/&gt;1. Send Japan a message
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Dear Friends
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We just released the results of a four-month undercover investigation, 
&lt;br/&gt;and at this moment it's growing into the biggest scandal to ever hit the 
&lt;br/&gt;whaling industry in Japan. It's on the front page of one of Japan's most 
&lt;br/&gt;influential newspapers today. All six Japanese television stations 
&lt;br/&gt;attended our press conference this morning. We're demanding that the 
&lt;br/&gt;government revoke the permits of the whalers as a result of the scandal, 
&lt;br/&gt;and WE NEED YOUR HELP.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Please send this message to the Japanese government demanding a full 
&lt;br/&gt;investigation, an end to government subsidies to the whaling program, 
&lt;br/&gt;and immediate revocation of the whaling permits.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We presented evidence today in Tokyo of decades-old, widespread 
&lt;br/&gt;embezzlement of whale meat occuring under the noses of the public 
&lt;br/&gt;officials who run the whaling programme.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The best cuts of whale meat, used to make whale bacon, are smuggled into 
&lt;br/&gt;crew cabins, preserved in salt, and then shipped home in boxes marked 
&lt;br/&gt;"cardboard" or "salted stuff" to be sold on the black market. We 
&lt;br/&gt;intercepted one such box -- worth up to US$3,000 -- and presented it to 
&lt;br/&gt;the Tokyo Prosecutor's office as evidence this morning.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We have evidence that more than a ton of such whale meat was snuck from 
&lt;br/&gt;the whaling ship this year. One of our informants claims to have heard a 
&lt;br/&gt;crew member boast of building a house on the proceeds from his illegal take.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Now is the time to rock the boat in Japan. The whaling programme has 
&lt;br/&gt;been an embarrassment to Japan's Foreign Affairs department all year, as 
&lt;br/&gt;they dealt with pressure from allies to stop the hunt of humpback 
&lt;br/&gt;whales. They cancelled the humpback hunt -- surely on the back of this 
&lt;br/&gt;scandal, they must cancel the rest.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Prime Minister himself got dragged in, claiming that:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;?The research whaling which our country is doing is a lawful activity 
&lt;br/&gt;carried out on the high seas under the International Convention for the 
&lt;br/&gt;Regulation of Whaling.? --Prime Minister Yasuo Fukuda, 23 January 2008
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When a Prime Minister has egg on his face like that, somebody's in 
&lt;br/&gt;trouble. And the more trouble the unprofitable, sham-scientific, heavily 
&lt;br/&gt;subsidized whaling programme is in, the more likely it will simply be 
&lt;br/&gt;shut down as more trouble than it's worth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Send a message to the Prime Minister asking him to end whaling.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The whale meat scandal team
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;P.S. Our office and activists in Japan have never attained such media 
&lt;br/&gt;prominence for the whale issue inside Japan --ever. Please help us to 
&lt;br/&gt;help them by putting the pressure on their government.
&lt;br/&gt;P.P.S. Please send this message to a friend. Send the action alert to 
&lt;br/&gt;five friends. Ask them to send it to their friends. If you have a blog, 
&lt;br/&gt;please blog this story. This is the moment to put the pressure on hard.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 21:16:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2008-05-18T21:16:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Songs On :</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;http://youtube.com/watch?v=aYevBLUtuLc&amp;amp;feature=related
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&lt;br/&gt;good day :)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Albert Hofman</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://www.gaiamedia.org/index_eng.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>interoceanic highway in south america</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;let's do what we can about this
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.livinginperu.com/news/4352&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 03:17:30 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>RebeccaRose</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-04-24T03:17:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Breaking News: Pentagon UsedPropaganda Pundits</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Dear Friend,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Fox News:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The Pentagon is infiltrating the media with pro-war propaganda.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Take Action Now
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=KpxFlW59HxKWQ5JHuyokSw..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Yesterday, the New York Times exposed a secret Pentagon campaign to
&lt;br/&gt;infiltrate the media with pro-war propaganda.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The scheme reaches all the way to the Bush White House, where top
&lt;br/&gt;officials recruited dozens of "military analysts" to spread favorable
&lt;br/&gt;views of the war via every major news channel -- without revealing
&lt;br/&gt;they were working from Pentagon scripts and often lobbying for major
&lt;br/&gt;military contractors.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Spreading "covert propaganda" is illegal under federal law. Congress
&lt;br/&gt;must investigate these military pundits and their ties to the Bush
&lt;br/&gt;administration, defense contractors and our national news media.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Tell Congress: Investigate the Propaganda Pundits
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=s70-4BWhnPr8AKoHXRVvHQ..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Signing this letter does work. If we can get 50,000 people to join
&lt;br/&gt;this call to Congress, they will likely take action to stop government
&lt;br/&gt;propaganda.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The more than 75 analysts exposed by the New York Times have become
&lt;br/&gt;fixtures of war coverage on CBS, NBC, ABC, CNN, Fox News Channel and
&lt;br/&gt;MSNBC. The front-page article reveals the many ways that the Pentagon
&lt;br/&gt;fed them pro-war talking points and misinformation. The White House
&lt;br/&gt;even has a name for these covert propagandists: &amp;amp;#8220;message force
&lt;br/&gt;multipliers.&amp;amp;#8221;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;The pundits trade on their access to the media and the White House to
&lt;br/&gt;secure high-paying jobs as lobbyists, consultants and contractors --
&lt;br/&gt;vying for hundreds of billions of dollars in military business
&lt;br/&gt;generated by the war.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Take Action: Investigate White House Propaganda
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=CvNECpp_NTvFhfntPVcxyg..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;An administration secretly forcing favorable views via the press is
&lt;br/&gt;not a partisan issue. This is a violation of every conceivable
&lt;br/&gt;standard of journalism -- and possibly of federal law.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It's time the truth about the selling of this war came out. You can
&lt;br/&gt;help make this happen.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Take action and then forward this e-mail to all of your friends.
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=JHB51QGLIazJLTbqocVcRA..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Onward,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Josh Silver
&lt;br/&gt;Executive Director
&lt;br/&gt;Free Press Action Fund
&lt;br/&gt;www.freepress.net
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=IH-qJ26MB_k_rVl4uovYRw..
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;P.S. Read the New York Times' front-page exposé:
&lt;br/&gt;http://free.convio.net/site/R?i=5ZR7XHzAyzj_-oPfuFsf8A.. .
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;P.P.S. Help us spread the word. Tell your friends and join us on
&lt;br/&gt;Facebook.
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&lt;br/&gt;Take action on this important campaign at:
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      <title>invoking the green man</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;i had a dream of the green man the other night... its a classic image the green man being driven out of a village out of fear of his wildness by the people... it was a sad scene...
&lt;br/&gt;it makes me wonder about deforestation, habitat loss, the destroying of large areas of land to create housing developments.
&lt;br/&gt;people do not build or create their communities with nature or with any mindfulness to the wild... natural communities, wild communities of other-than-human-persons are destroyed to make room for homo-domesticus. the green man is most definitely driven out of these areas.
&lt;br/&gt;i was also thinking of a faun that comes and enters into my body from time to time... it often feels that cernunnos, the green man and the faun share a common etheral body manifesting as either or depending on what is needed of them... the faun was of a large wild wooded area near my home i had given offerings to him and asked for him to share space with me so i could learn from him... and he did... it was an amazing process... at any rate his level of mischeviousness was intense... bordering on a sick sense of humor, and a wrathful sense of justice... what made this faun sick? the forest was nothing compared to the size it used to be that he was one with... the level of respect payed there was higher then most however trash was to be found all over. the forest itself was chopped up into islands with pavement roads and developments tearing it apart...
&lt;br/&gt;the other night my grrrrl friend pointed out how dangerous and mischievous forest spirits can be, i know to well how much this is so... and she pointed out how much more mischievous and dangerous they are when threatened.... and we discussed how important it is to make them our allies if possible, to be wild and a part of the forest again in our communities and ways of life.
&lt;br/&gt;i look at the forests destroyed by housing developments and i see that none of it is nessecary at all! that its all poor planning and life style decisions as well as ecological and social apathy brought about and perpetuated by those first colonized European christains driving the green man from the village...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;how can we invite the green man back into our communities again? what offering and ritual action is needed to invoke him into our communities? what will bring the faun back to health to make him seem less of a demon to those who see him as such out of ignorence? how can we honor the horned god where we live?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We can start by looking at how we consume the bounty of nature, how we live our lives daily, where we get our food... we can invite the green man back into our village by including the wild into the village again... creating bioswales instead of draining street water into the sewar system, creating green roofs on our houses, building with natural materials like cob, straw bale, and renewable resources, getting rid of pavment and the need for mass transit by re-designing our communities around COMMUNITY, so we can walk to all the places we need to go. Or we can create our own villages as a permacultured part of the wild forest... human beings have the ability to actually aid ecosystems with their presence as well as bio-remediate the areas that have been damaged. what would the psyche of a people be like if they lived not in civilization but in and with the wild again, not beside it but a part of it?
&lt;br/&gt;the joy of the green man and the growth and balance of his dancing feet would be in our hearts, the masculine stereotypes and gender roles would change and no longer would men be seen as symbols of oppresion... art and beauty would be just another natural expression like a birds song, simple and humble and to be found in the artifacts we create for daily living.
&lt;br/&gt;to invoke these beings of nature, these spirits and powers the ritual is a change in the way we live our lives... the new magical training is skill building in eco-design, whole systems design, permaculture, renewable resources, sustainability, and alternative energy. the circle that is cast is the recognition of our interdependence, and the chants are the affirmations and oaths that we will change the way we live and no longer participate in this driving of the green man from our village, we invite him back and give offerings to him, by create the pace for him to exist in our village and in our actions...&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Made in China !</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;http://people.tribe.net/dragonfamily/blog/bcaddbc3-ba40-4de5-9458-5f262a6e0ffc
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&lt;br/&gt;:)&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>FIFTH PEOPLES' GLOBAL ACTION GATHERING IN EUROPE</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;ANARCHIST PUBLICATIONS AND EVENTS:
&lt;br/&gt;PGA INSPIRED NEWSLETTER #4:
&lt;br/&gt;FIFTH PEOPLES' GLOBAL ACTION GATHERING IN EUROPE:
&lt;br/&gt;The People's Global Action (PGA) is a loosely knit network of anti-globalization activists. It has been instrumental in organizing protests against the G8, the WTO, the World Bank and the IMF in locations across the world. The following two reports concern the recently published newsletter, available in a downloadable pdf format and the upcoming (August 20 to 27th) gathering in Athens, Greece. If you want to learn more about the PGA consult one of the sites below:
&lt;br/&gt;http://pgaconference.org
&lt;br/&gt;http://peoplesglobalaction.org 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.agp.org 
&lt;br/&gt;http://all4all.org 
&lt;br/&gt;http://balkans.puscii.nl 
&lt;br/&gt;............................................
&lt;br/&gt;PGA* inspired newsletter #4
&lt;br/&gt;This is the 4th issue of the PGA inspired newsletter! You can download the file for reading from here: http://aresistance.net/data/pga4_read.pdf and the file for printing from here: http://aresistance.net/data/pga4_print.pdf At the PGA-conference in Dijon a need for a non-digital communication-tool was mentioned. There was an idea to refresh a printed newsletter. We would like to continue the project with this call. Our aim is to continue using this newsletter as forum of debates, different project, actions and struggles of collectives, related to PGA. The newsletter does not speak in the name of the network, but is inspired by PGA. Therefore it will continue to be an autonomous project with subjective views, but can only work through the participation of various collectives and individuals in the network.
&lt;br/&gt;This project should be an open process and switching workgroups take the responsibility for each issue.The group, working on the next issue, announces their idea for next issue and sets a deadline for article (both on the pga-process list). After layouting and publishing it’s also helpful, if the workgroup cares for skill-sharing with the next group (which means to introduce in the tools, used for the newsletter). The final printing and distribution is like the creation of article in the responsibility of all the collectives and single persons in the network. To make the next newsletter a better instrument of information and perhaps more open to global struggles, please send articles
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&lt;br/&gt;* An antiauthoritarian anticapitalist initiative network
&lt;br/&gt;----------------------------------------------------------5th Peoples' Global Action Gathering in Europe Athens 20th / 27th of August
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&lt;br/&gt;PGA - People's Global Action - started in 1998, it has been a tool and a diffuse structure coordinating groups and people sharing common struggles and practices, in accordance with various anticapitalist and anti-authoritarian principles (see the hallmarks).
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&lt;br/&gt;PGA initiated the Intercontinental Caravan in 1999, as well as international action days of actions against the G8, the WTO, the World Bank, the IMF... In Seattle, Genoa, Prague, and in a number of less popular events, PGA was a driving force behind numerous actions and reflections. At the convergence of international initiatives and local struggles, groups close to the PGA are now looking for new drives to challenge stagnation.In Europe, groups who identify with the PGA principles meet about once every two years, through the initiative of a "convener" collective. Since 1998, these conferences have been the opportunity for several days of exchanging practices and knowledge, and of establishing bonds, which allow us to be better organized in common actions.
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&lt;br/&gt;The 5th gathering of Peoples Global Action in Europe this time will take place in Greece.The responsibility of organizing and coordinating the discussion that opened in the last meetings of PGA Europe has taken up by a decentralized network of activists and collectives in the Balkans. That's exactly and the essential advantage of this initiative. The convener is not a local collective like other conferences in the past but a vital Balkan decentralized network. On the preparation all of these months several questions , problems as well as ideas for taking action have already been mentioned by all of us involved with a conference here!!! Again, in the Balkan region! We would like to open a long discussion about local activism in combination with a global perspective. In other words we want to discuss about the future of the PGA network and its process as well as the various projects , topics and ideas for action. 
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&lt;br/&gt;As a reference example : the following topics that we are already working on or we want to invite people to open meeting spaces during the PGA conference.
&lt;br/&gt;Autonomous spaces and squatting, 
&lt;br/&gt;patriarchy, gender, radical feminism, 
&lt;br/&gt;antirepression, anti militarism,
&lt;br/&gt;biotechnology, environmental struggles, 
&lt;br/&gt;indigenous spaces,
&lt;br/&gt;antiglobalization, G8, 
&lt;br/&gt;DIY activities and sharing skills, fanzines, infoshops, 
&lt;br/&gt;PGA infopoint ,
&lt;br/&gt;land and autonomy, eco communities, 
&lt;br/&gt;digital struggles and autonomous servers, indymedia tools, 
&lt;br/&gt;precarity and flexibility,
&lt;br/&gt;radical theory, 
&lt;br/&gt;productive networking, 
&lt;br/&gt;local alternatives,activism,
&lt;br/&gt;other, 
&lt;br/&gt;to be continued ...
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&lt;br/&gt;If you wanna take part on the meeting we need the following information from you!! Please send it to us as soon as possible at con2008@no-log.org.. have it in mind that our dynamic is not the best one and we need a lot of international support and definitely to know how many people are planning to join the meeting .. You also need sleeping bags and probably a tent.
&lt;br/&gt;Info that we need from you:
&lt;br/&gt;1.name of your collective (if you belong in a collective),
&lt;br/&gt;2.number of people,
&lt;br/&gt;3.workshop or topic who you want to organise (name of your workshop,what do you need for it, for ex do you need a projector?), 
&lt;br/&gt;4.if you wanna participate on the kitchen (we definitely need it as well)
&lt;br/&gt;In solidarity - 
&lt;br/&gt;International working group of the 5th PGA conference &lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;===8&amp;amp;lt;==============Original message text=============== Life despite Capitalism
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&lt;br/&gt;Building Radical Economies
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&lt;br/&gt;Escanda International Gathering
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&lt;br/&gt;4 - 9 September 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;In September 2008, the Escanda collective along with others will be hosting a five day radical economics gathering. As well as analysing the failures of the current economic system and the means of production and circulation we will learn from the possibilities and experiences of those working in the here and now, despite capitalism, to build autonomous economies from a basis of sustainability, self organisation, solidarity, respect and justice and the struggle for a better world.
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&lt;br/&gt;The gathering will provide a space for networking and will combine workshops that focus both on the theory of radical economics and the practice â€“ working towards creating and building radical economies within and between our own movements and collectives.
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&lt;br/&gt;Why?
&lt;br/&gt;Within the movement we discuss politics - what is wrong with the system and how we build our own networks, we discuss ecology - climate change and how we develop more ecological ways of doing things, relations - how to avoid hierarchies and power relations amongst ourselves, consumerism, culture, direct action, health, education... but what about economics?
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&lt;br/&gt;Over the last 5 years the Escanda collective and friends have organised a number of different meetings and seminars. Ranging from gender issues, popular education, renewable energies and social change, to a radical women's gathering. This year, we want to go to
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&lt;br/&gt;the belly of the beast and provide the space for skill sharing, learning, discussion and debate around economics. For many of us it remains a taboo word, or something we have not quite got our heads around, all of us have critiques, ideas and questions about the global economy and all of us, despite capitalism, are doing things ourselves to provide for and control our lives. In the seminar we hope to combine these different elements to develop our own individual understanding, radicalise and deepen our critiques, explore radical and alternative economies and join up with or form new networks of autonomous production and circulation.
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&lt;br/&gt;What?
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&lt;br/&gt;Whilst we have an idea about what we would like to see in the seminar, we are also very interested to hear from other groups and collectives who have been working around these issues in developing the content and programme of the seminar together. We have come up with these questions but we welcome any feedback, ideas and suggestions you might have.
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&lt;br/&gt;â€“          What issues and themes would you like to see represented?
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&lt;br/&gt;â€“          Can you offer a workshop?
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&lt;br/&gt;â€“          Can you think of any groups or individuals that would be
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&lt;br/&gt;useful to invite?
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&lt;br/&gt;â€“          What networks and groups are you involved in and (briefly)
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&lt;br/&gt;what do they do?
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&lt;br/&gt;â€“          What
&lt;br/&gt;  do you understand by the word 'economy'?
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&lt;br/&gt;So far we thought we would like to look at some of the topics below:
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·      Looking at the mechanics of the market, global economics,
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&lt;br/&gt;money, exchange, value and wage labour. Including looking at all the
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&lt;br/&gt;things we do that are not 'valued' such as domestic work or social work.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        A questionnaire and discussions amongst ourselves about ways
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&lt;br/&gt;in which we already manage our needs without money - e.g. in our
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&lt;br/&gt;families, social centres, shared flats and international networks.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        Learning about and examining existing models such as
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&lt;br/&gt;Solidarity Economics, Participatory Economics, the concept of the
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&lt;br/&gt;Commons, Anarcho-syndicalism etc.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        Learning about
&lt;br/&gt;  and examining real examples such as our own
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&lt;br/&gt;communities and social centres, the Zapatistas, Argentina from 2001,
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&lt;br/&gt;Spain during the civil war, etc.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        A networking point for those producing or circulating in non-
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&lt;br/&gt;capitalist ways.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        Working towards establishing our own production and
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&lt;br/&gt;circulation networks between groups and collectives.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        How do these model and examples link into our current real
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&lt;br/&gt;struggles? How do we hold on to what we have wrestled out of the
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&lt;br/&gt;capitalist sphere AND make them part of a bigger revolutionary
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&lt;br/&gt;process of going beyond capitalism altogether?
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&lt;br/&gt;Â·        Are these "radical economies" real and sustenible alternatives or
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&lt;br/&gt;they can only exist like parasites of the capitalist system?
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&lt;br/&gt;Where?
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&lt;br/&gt;The seminar will be held from the 4th-9th of September 2008 in Escanda. 
&lt;br/&gt;  Escanda is a collective in the North of Spain - a space for interaction and cooperation between groups of people, networks and movements. Escanda aims to practice and experiment how to live together, without exchange relations and with horizontal structures. The common thread is non-hierarchical, anti-capitalist grassroots movements, with an emphasis on the environment. We subscribe to the PGA Hallmarks and work within this framework. As such Escanda organises meetings, seminars, courses, trainings, skill sharing events and provides space for projects on a wide variety of different issues.
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&lt;br/&gt;For more information please contact lifedespitecapitalismo@googlemail.com or
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&lt;br/&gt;www.escanda.org
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&lt;br/&gt;Vivir a pesar del Capitalismo
&lt;br/&gt;Construyendo EconomÃ­as Radicales
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&lt;br/&gt;Encuentro Internacional en Escanda
&lt;br/&gt;Del 4 al 9 de Septiembre 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;En Septiembre del 2008, el colectivo ESCANDA y afinidades albergarÃ¡ durante 5 dÃ­as un encuentro sobre "EconomÃ­as Radicales". De la misma forma que analizaremos los fallos del actual sistema econÃ³mico y el significado de conceptos como "producciÃ³n y circulaciÃ³n", aprenderemos de las experiencias de aquellos que estÃ¡n trabajando en el aquÃ­ y ahora a pesar del capitalismo, aprenderemos a construir economÃ­as autÃ³nomas desde la sostenibilidad, autoorganizaciÃ³n, solidaridad, respeto, justicia y la lucha por un mundo mejor.
&lt;br/&gt;El encuentro nos proporcionarÃ¡ un espacio para el trabajo en red combinando talleres enfocados tanto en la teorÃ­a como en la prÃ¡ctica y trabajando para la creaciÃ³n de economÃ­as radicales entre nuestros propios colectivos o los mismos movimientos en que nos encontramos.
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&lt;br/&gt;  Â¿Por quÃ©?
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&lt;br/&gt;  Dentro del "movimiento" se discute sobre polÃ­tica (quÃ© estÃ¡ mal en el sistema y cÃ³mo construimos nuestras propias redes), ecologÃ­a (cambio climÃ¡tico y cÃ³mo desarrollar formas mÃ¡s ecolÃ³gicas de hacer las cosas), relaciones (cÃ³mo evitar jerarquÃ­as y relaciones de poder entre nosotr@s), consumo, cultura, acciÃ³n directa, salud, educaciÃ³n... 
&lt;br/&gt;pero Â¿quÃ© pasa con la economÃ­a?
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&lt;br/&gt;  Durante los Ãºltimos cinco aÃ±os desde el colectivo Escanda y afinidades se han organizado diferentes encuentros y seminarios que versaron desde la cuestiÃ³n del gÃ©nero, educaciÃ³n popular, energÃ­as renovables y transformaciÃ³n social hasta un encuentro radical de mujeres. Este aÃ±o queremos entrar en el corazÃ³n de la bestia y crear un espacio para compartir habilidades, aprender, discutir y debatir sobre economÃ­a. Para much@s de nosotr@s Ã©sta es una palabra tabÃº o algo que no queremos/conseguimos asimilar, tod@s tenemos crÃ­ticas, ideas y preguntas sobre la economÃ­a mundial y tod@s nosotr@s, a pesar del capitalismo, estamos haciendo cosas por nosotr@s mism@s  para abastecernos y ser dueÃ±@s de nuestras vidas.... En el encuentro esperamos combinar todos estos elementos para desarrollar nuestra propia forma de entender las economÃ­as alternativas, radicalizarlas, profundizar nuestras crÃ­ticas asÃ­ como explorar las distintas posibilidades uniÃ©ndonos a las redes que ya existen o creando nuevos espacios para la producciÃ³n y circulaciÃ³n d bienes.
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&lt;br/&gt;Â¿Sobre quÃ©?
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&lt;br/&gt;  A la vez que tenemos algunas ideas sobre quÃ© nos gustarÃ­a que se tratara en el encuentro, tambiÃ©n estamos muy interesad@s en conocer las opiniones de otros grupos y colectivos que trabajan estos temas para asÃ­ desarrollar los contenidos y el programa junt@s. Hemos pensado en unas preguntas para facilitar este proceso, aÃºn asÃ­ cualquier sugerencia o idea fuera del cuestionario serÃ¡ muy bien recibida.
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&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿QuÃ© cuestiones y temas te gustarÃ­a que se trataran?
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿PodrÃ­as dar un taller?
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿Se te ocurre algÃºn grupo/persona que fuera interesante invitar?
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿En quÃ© grupos/colectivos estÃ¡s involucrad@ y que hacen?
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿QuÃ© entiendes por la paabra "economÃ­a"?
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&lt;br/&gt;Algunos de los temas que nos gustarÃ­a tratar en el encuentro son:
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&lt;br/&gt;  - Analizar losmecanismos del mercado, la economÃ­a mundial, dinero, intercambio, valor y trabajo asalariado. Todo esto teniendo en cuenta
&lt;br/&gt;  todas
&lt;br/&gt;aquellas cosas que hacemos y que no tienen "valor" como las tareas domÅ›ticas o el trabajo social.
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&lt;br/&gt;- Un cuestionario y debate sobre las formas en que nos dotamos a nosotr@s mism@s de las cosas que necesitamos pero sin usar dinero (por ejemplo atravÃ©s de la familia, centros sociales,pisos compartidos, redes internacionales...)
&lt;br/&gt;- Examinar y aprender de modelos que ya existen como EconomÃ­as Solidarias, EconomÃ­as Participativas, el concepto de propiedad colectiva, anarcosindicalismo, etc.
&lt;br/&gt;- Analizar y aprender de ejemplos reales que ya existen como nuestra propias comunidades y centros sociales, los zapatistas, la Argentina del 2001, la revoluciÃ³n espaÃ±ola en la guerra civil...
&lt;br/&gt;- Punto de encuentro para aquell@s que producen y distribuyen por mecanismos no capitalistas para la creaciÃ³n de nuestras propias redes de producciÃ³n y distribuciÃ³n entre grupos y colectivos
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿CÃ³mo estos modelos y ejemplos se
&lt;br/&gt;  relacionan con la lucha cotidiana? Â¿CÃ³mo mantenemos aquello que hemos arrancado de la esfera capitalista y lo incorporamos a un movimiento revolucionario que va mÃ¡s alla del capitalismo?
&lt;br/&gt;- Â¿Son estas "economÃ­as radicales" alternativas reales y sostenibles o sÃ³lo pueden existir como parÃ¡sitos del sistema capitalista?
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&lt;br/&gt;  Â¿DÃ³nde?
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&lt;br/&gt;El encuentro tendrÃ¡ lugar entre el 4 y el 9 de septiembre de 2008 en Escanda, colectivo en el norte de EspaÃ±a (Astrurias) y espacio para la interacciÃ³n y cooperaciÃ³n entre grupos de personas, redes y movimientos. Escanda intenta practicar y experimentar sobre cÃ³mo vivir juntos por medio de una estructura horizontal. El hilo conductor de nuestra actividad son las relaciones no jerÃ¡rquicas, los movimientos anticapitalista haciendo Ã©nfasis en el respeto al medio. Compartimos lo
&lt;br/&gt;  principios bÃ¡sicos de la AcciÃ³n Global de los Pueblos y trajamos en ese mismo marco. De esta forma Escanda organiza reuniones, encuentros, cursos, intercambio de habilidades y provee de espacio para proyectos de diversas temÃ¡ticas y objetivos.
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&lt;br/&gt;Best regards,
&lt;br/&gt; Joern                            mailto:joern@oekojobs.de&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;'Breakthrough' at Stonehenge dig
&lt;br/&gt;Archaeologists carrying out an excavation at Stonehenge say they have broken through to a layer that may finally explain why the site was built. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The team has reached sockets that once held bluestones - smaller stones, most now missing or uprooted, which formed the site's original structure. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The researchers believe that the bluestones could reveal that Stonehenge was once a place of healing. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The dig is the first to take place at Stonehenge for more than 40 years...
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.britarch.ac.uk/ba/ba74/feat4.shtml
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&lt;br/&gt;Stonehenge Computer
&lt;br/&gt;In His best-selling and controversial 1965 book Stonehenge Decoded, Gerald Harkins claimed the monument was a 'brilliantly conceived astronomical observatory'. He was to talk at the Fourth Conference on the Inspiration of Astronomical Phenomena, held in Oxford in August 2003, but died in May, aged 75. With archaeologist Vance Tiede, Hawkins addresses Stonehenge for the last time
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&lt;br/&gt;Why was Stonehenge built? How did it function? British archaeologists have been reluctant to say. New analysis supports the astronomical interpretation first published in Nature in 1963.
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&lt;br/&gt;At that time, many archaeologists dismissed the theory because of the poor site plan. In 1978 Richard Atkinson published a precise survey of the Station Stone rectangle, the Heelstone and the Avenue axis, ‘because the possible astronomical significance of Stonehenge has made it desirable to make new measurements of its features.’ Re-calculated alignment values confirm that not only did the centre of the sun’s disc line up with the axis exactly at midsummer sunrise and closely at midwinter sunset, but that the centre of the High Moon lined up with the long sides of the Station Stone rectangle at midwinter moonset. The short sides of the rectangle, being parallel to the axis, also point to the midsummer and midwinter sun. The displacements have decreased to less than 0.5°, the width of the lunar and solar discs – less than the width of the little finger held at arm’s length.
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&lt;br/&gt;Atkinson himself asked: ‘What is the accuracy of the alignments? ... You have to go to the site and measure things precisely’. The final result is as much as one could expect of observations with the unaided eye. This survey was perhaps the most important contribution that Atkinson made to Stonehenge astronomy. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Around 50 BC the Sicilian historian Diodorus described a temple often identified as Stonehenge:
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&lt;br/&gt;… Hecateus [c 350 BC] and certain others say that in the region beyond the land of the Celts [Gaul] there lies in the ocean an island no smaller than Sicily. This island… is inhabited by the Hyperboreans… there is also on the island a magnificent sacred precinct of Apollo and a notable temple adorned with many votive offerings and spherical in shape. They also say how the moon viewed from this island appears to be but a little distance from the earth… the god visits the island every 19 years, the period in which the return of the stars [astron] to the same place in the heavens is accomplished; and for this reason the 19-year period is called by the Greeks the year of Meton (Diodorus Siculus, II).
&lt;br/&gt;Archaeologists now regard the 56 Aubrey Holes as having held large posts. But why not 57, a multiple of the 19-year period of the Metonic cycle? 
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&lt;br/&gt;The cycle says that if there is a full moon on 21 June, the moon again will be full on 21 June 19 years later, but at a different position on the horizon. If the full moon starts over the Heelstone, for example, it will slowly slip away each 19 year interval. On the other hand, if you count 19, 18 and 19 years (a total of 56), it will stay completely on the stone throughout many cycles. It would seem that the Stonehengers had knowledge of both: there are 19 stones in the bluestone horseshoe and there are 56 holes in the Aubrey circle.
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&lt;br/&gt;It is not the return of ‘stars’ alone to the same place in the heavens that is marked by the horizon alignments at Stonehenge, but rather of the luminous bodies (astron), that is sun, moon and stars. We interpret Diodorus’ words to mean that Stonehenge records the turning points of the midsummer sun and midwinter moon with the seasonal zodiac stars, when all these luminous bodies return to the same place in the Year of the High Moon every 19+18+19 years.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Roman writer Plutarch (2nd Century AD) provides the evidence to link 56 with eclipses, supported indirectly by the ancient myths of cosmic struggles between light and darkness, Greek (Typhon vs Zeus) and Egyptian (Set vs Horus and Osiris):
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&lt;br/&gt;… [T]he 56-sided polygon is said to belong to Typhon, as Eudoxus [Greek astronomer c 370 BC] has reported… There are some who give the name Typhon to the shadow of the earth, into which they believe the moon falls and so suffers eclipse… which the sun remedies by instantly shining back upon the moon when it has escaped the earth’s shadow (Plutarch, De Iside et Osiride 30,44,55).
&lt;br/&gt;The movement of the moon has occupied the lives of many, many astronomers, and there are hundreds of terms to describe it. That the moon undergoes this movement to higher declinations, higher and higher in the sky, and then becomes lower and lower, has come out of the Stonehenge study. In certain places, such as Northern Ireland, the moon would disappear. In other higher latitudes, it would become circumpolar, never setting – the land of the midnight moon, one could say. The 56-year cycle which controls it was not really understood or mentioned by astronomers. It is something that has come from the past to us – ancient knowledge transferred in a set of alignments.
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&lt;br/&gt;There seems to be no practical value in what was going on at Stonehenge. One does not need Stonehenge to know when to plant seeds or when to breed cattle. Perhaps part of the purpose might have been for the handmaiden of astronomy—astrology.
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&lt;br/&gt;Astronomy has grown out of astrology, though we may hate to face that fact. Uncanny powers were placed on celestial objects, and predictions were made which directly related, whether they came true or not, to human lives and events. There may have been some prognostication at Stonehenge.
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&lt;br/&gt;We once said to a class of gifted students that perhaps the people at Stonehenge were able to say every 8 or 9 years, when the moon rose over the Heelstone, that it was in danger of being eclipsed. And one very, very bright young man said, ‘Why not the other way around? For 8 or 9 years, the people there could say that it was a clear year, the moon is safe. They would win out for 8 or 9 years. Even by saying “There is danger now of the moon disappearing and we must make preparations”, they could have won out, for the eclipse might not have been observable in southern England’.
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&lt;br/&gt;The sun could have been the god of life and the moon the god of death. Stonehenge might have been connected with the spirits, with the afterlife, birth and all the things that made life and existence important for people in Neolithic times.
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&lt;br/&gt;In light of Atkinson’s Stonehenge survey and the ancient accounts cited above, we conclude that the inspiration of astronomical phenomena sparked Neolithic architects’ celestial vision on Salisbury Plain. What better way to recreate their lost vision than with a digital ‘Virtual Stonehenge’ under a ‘Virtual Neolithic Sky’ in the new Stonehenge visitor centre? The astronomy has spoken and the numbers are quite clear.
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Greetings,
&lt;br/&gt;Tis been a while since I posted on these boards and wished to start a fresh discussion, hopefully fitting to the sentiment of this tribe concerning the devastation of protected wildlife.  I live in Staten Island, one of the five boros of NYC and work in Manhattan, and have watched the slow destruction of trees and natural settings (untouched wilderness not architectural renderings of an agencies own vision for a park) torn down to make way for homes or "renovations".  The Parks dept here has clear cut 300 year trees with ancient energies residing within them, though this agency is blind to such things, in Battery Park to make way also for "renovations" i.e. concrete water fountains, food kiosks, carousels etc, all in the name of so called "progress".  Seeing the indigenous spirits and energies that have been manifest in these areas shoved aside, or disappear altogether creates such a rage in me, and I at times incorporate a reversal of these actions in my own rites.  I am seeking how others would react to these actions--local activist groups have been quiet, what can we do, pagans, shamans, whomever are a part of the archaic way of being in regards to this....
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      <title>The burning times - witchhunts in the 17th century</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The witchhunts, the burning times are an abomination unto European history and our collective consciousness. However is is a ground of much unquestioned assumption and heresay. This little post is to hopefully bring discernment over some aspects of the matter.
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&lt;br/&gt;Part of the 'new dogma' of neopagan spirituality is the assertion that 5 million women were burnt alive in Europe during the witchhunts. Surprisingly, this idea is not founded in any evidence but ,rather, a deep and essentially contemporary outrage in the collective consciousness toward tyranical oligarchy (for 'patriarchy' - as if every man were implicated - but I argue the problem is more a form of tyranny where political power effectively rests with a small elite segment of society) - which is often attributed in some way to Christianity .
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&lt;br/&gt;"The so-called great European witch-hunt has been a much-vexed issue, one easily contorted to suit the prejudices of every age" - Sandra Miesel
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&lt;br/&gt;The body of evidence around the witch hunts leads to a bit of a different take on events, where it is neccesary to again OWN the shadow of our human nature rather than projecting it upon an external authority 'doing it to us'.
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&lt;br/&gt;The earliest reference to 9 million witches burnt is from 'the witchcraft museum' .In 1951 the owner Cecil Williamson had put up a memorial to "the estimated nine million people killed during the witch persecutions in Europe." There is no source of evidence anywhere giving any figure remotely close to this. "Cecil Williamson simply made it up. " (Hinds, 2006)
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&lt;br/&gt;* The total number of Europeans killed is generally thought to be 40,000 to 100,000, not 5 million.
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&lt;br/&gt;* Depending on european country, between 20 to 90% percent of the accused tried for witchcraft were men.
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&lt;br/&gt;* The trials were not run by churches of any denomination. They were largely held in civil courts and prosecuted by local authorities
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&lt;br/&gt;* In France, Germany, Switzerland, and Scotland, almost all of the accused were executed were garroted before the flames were lit. In England most convicted witches were hung and not all of them were put to death.
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&lt;br/&gt;* The judicial records indicate a mainly provincial and vindictive character to the 'witch hunts', much as how people are scapegoated or sacrificed in indigenous cultures for illness or bad luck.
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&lt;br/&gt;"Most of the complaints concerned pregnant women, infants, young children and lactating mothers who suffered from unexplained and sometimes fatal maladies. Such misfortunes were commonplace at a time when only half of all babies made it past their first birthday. If the mother or her family felt inclined to blame this on supernatural forces, the most likely culprit to single out would be an elderly woman who had some encounter -- even a seemingly benevolent one -- with mother or child."
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&lt;br/&gt;"Current popular history holds that the witch hunts were concerted campaigns by a male-dominated church that felt its sway diminished by stubborn pagan and folk traditions that gave too much respect to wise old women. The persecution, the story goes, was designed to stamp out those beliefs. However, when you look at actual cases, the picture is quite the opposite. "In 1627," writes Roper, "in the town of Ochsenfurt, rumors about witchcraft had involved the allegation that a child had been eaten ... Later that same year, 150 citizens gathered in force to complain about 'the enemies of their livelihood, and vermin and witchcraft,'" and to demand action. Against the bishop's express orders, the mayor and council arrested and tortured several suspects, causing the death of one."
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&lt;br/&gt;This picture, of waves of local hysteria triggered by the death of a loved one, especially a child, leading to scapegoating by the execution of marginals, is very sad indeed, and it is a scenario, a human behaviour pattern still playing out across the planet to this day, from the social ex-communication of unique people or 'outsiders' in schools and colleges, to the scapegoating of entire nations on account of resource wars. Humans urgently need to look at their still undeveloped pattern of scapegoating and sacrifice instead of assuming that this behaviour has its roots in a particular creed or historical context.
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&lt;br/&gt;dir.salon.com/story/books...e/index.html
&lt;br/&gt;www.twpt.com/burning.htm
&lt;br/&gt;www.crisismagazine.com/octobe...re1.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;Lyndal Roper "Witch Craze: Terror and Fantasy in Baroque Germany"
&lt;br/&gt;Brian Levack' "The Witch-Hunt in Early Modern Europe"
&lt;br/&gt;Paul Boyer and Stephen Nissenbaum, Salem Possessed: The Social Origins of Witchcraft (Harvard University Press, 1974).
&lt;br/&gt;Robin Briggs, Witches and Neighbors: The Social and Cultural Context of European Witchcraft (Viking, 1996). This is the best point of entry to modern scholarship on witchcraft.
&lt;br/&gt;Gustav Henningsen, The Witches' Advocate: Basque Witchcraft and the Spanish Inquisition (University of Nevada Press, 1980).
&lt;br/&gt;Ronald Hutton, The Triumph of the Moon: A History of Modern Pagan Witchcraft (Oxford University Press, 1999).
&lt;br/&gt;H.C. Erik Midelfort, Witch Hunting in Southwestern Germany 1562-1684: The Social and Intellectual Foundations (Stanford University Press, 1972).
&lt;br/&gt;James Sharpe, Instruments of Darkness: Witchcraft in Early Modern England (University of Pennsylvania Press, 1996).
&lt;br/&gt;Starhawk, Dreaming the Dark: Magic, Sex and Politics (Beacon, 1988).&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I have summoned hundreds of spirits and have boiled it all down to very simple and powerful easy to follow Magick Ritual books. Please go to www.Kuriakos.biz&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>...  community soup   !!!    :   Support Environment Commissioner who says NO to GMO.</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;Support Environment Commissioner who says NO to GMO. 
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.greenpeace.org/international/getinvolved/support-dimas-on-maize?utm_source=gpi-cyberactivist-list&amp;amp;utm_medium=email&amp;amp;utm_content=832243&amp;amp;utm_campaign=alert-eu-gmo
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&lt;br/&gt;Europe's top environment politician, EU-Commissioner Stavros Dimas, 
&lt;br/&gt;enraged agro-chemical companies last week when he refused to allow the 
&lt;br/&gt;cultivation of two varieties of genetically modified maize (Bt 11 and 1507). 
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&lt;br/&gt;He said GM crops should not be approved until new methods have been 
&lt;br/&gt;developed for assessing long-term risks and the effects on birds and 
&lt;br/&gt;butterflies. This is wonderful news! 
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&lt;br/&gt;Other European Commissioners are siding with the industry though, and 
&lt;br/&gt;want to vote on the matter within the next few weeks in Brussels. 
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&lt;br/&gt;We have only days to show our support for the Environment Commissioner's 
&lt;br/&gt;brave stand -- and to let the other politicians know that he speaks for 
&lt;br/&gt;us all. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Can you send a message to Stavros Dimas, to Manuel Barroso (the 
&lt;br/&gt;President of the European Commission) and the Commissioners taking the 
&lt;br/&gt;industry's side Kyprianou (Health and Consumer Protection) and 
&lt;br/&gt;Fischer-Boel (Agriculture).
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      <title>Help  Save  Tara !</title>
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      <title>Prussian Indigenous Revival</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;decolonization is actvism...
&lt;br/&gt;http://european-indigenous-peoples.suite101.com/article.cfm/prussian_indigenous_revival&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>London's First Vegetable Oil Powered Event!</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;London's First Vegetable Oil Powered Event!
&lt;br/&gt;***** The 4th Annual Festival of Life ***** 
&lt;br/&gt;Saturday 1st and Sunday 2nd September 
&lt;br/&gt;11am to 7pm@ St Paul's Steiner Project
&lt;br/&gt;1 St Paul's Road, Islington, London N1 2QH    [how to get there]
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&lt;br/&gt;Day tickets £8 (concessions £5) Weekend ticket £12, Under 16s Free 
&lt;br/&gt;All tickets on the door. Advance booking not required
&lt;br/&gt;No additional charges for talks, workshops and performances
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&lt;br/&gt;Grand Opening Saturday 12.30pm - Sacred Sound Ceremony
&lt;br/&gt;Conscious Dance Party Sa turday 6pm -10pm - £3 in advance £5 on the door
&lt;br/&gt;Drum Circle - Guided Dance - Tribal Rhythms from DJ Charlie (Sacred Sound Collective)
&lt;br/&gt;  Uplifting Trance with Anima - Live World Beats with Maha-Ra 
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&lt;br/&gt;Celebrating Compassionate Lifestyles, Sustainable Living, Raw/Live Food and Holistic Health. Over 40 talks and workshops including:
&lt;br/&gt;World renowned scientist and social-activist Dr Mae-Wan Ho, Nutritionist Dr Gina Shaw, Veggie-oil power entrepreneurs: Chris Kennett and Mat Bulba, Sustainability Consultant Steve Charter, Raw life-coach Jess Michael,  Angela Stokes, Matt Monarch, Rima Morrell PhD. Hugh Newman, Guy Gladstone…and many more
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&lt;br/&gt;Huge festival market place: 
&lt;br/&gt;Gourmet  Raw Food Cuisine, Organic Clothing, Raw Chocolate, Juicers and Blenders, Books, 
&lt;br/&gt;Raw Superfoods, Information stalls, Therapies and more
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&lt;br/&gt;Life affirming activities and performances for all the family: 
&lt;br/&gt;Yoga, Laughter Workshops, Ecstatic Dance, Rawfood Masterclasses, Holistic Therapies, Kid's Space, Clowns, Music, Storytellers, Alternative Technology Demos, Meditation, Permaculture [more]
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&lt;br/&gt;Full Details including how to get there at:
&lt;br/&gt;www.festivaloflife.net 
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&lt;br/&gt;The Festival is a smoke and alcohol free zone 
&lt;br/&gt;We are a not-for-profit organisation affiliated to the Permaculture Association Part Sponsored by :
&lt;br/&gt; Jess Michael www.totalrawfood.com, Living Earth Europe MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "www.living-earth.co.uk" claiming to be www.livingearth.co.uk , the Raw Chocolate Company www.therawchocolatecompany.com and Lifescape Magazine www.lifescapemag.com. Veg Oil Power supplied by Blooming Futures www.bloomingfutures.com. Going out on the Web courtesy of Veggie Vision www.veggievision.co.uk 
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&lt;br/&gt; Contact Us: 0870 7344 888 info@festivaloflife.net
&lt;br/&gt;Help Steward the Festival, see website for details or contact above http://www.festivaloflife.net/ &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>....do you thing, Atomic Power (Nu(o)clear)  is good to bake bread ?  :</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;....i have thy strong feeling that it is realy Importent to say NO to Nuclear!
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&lt;br/&gt;And to have the     "Konsequenz"       to do so.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>dragon council</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://www.dragonnetwork.org/council/index.htm
&lt;br/&gt;dragon networks council of all beings...&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Christian Rätsch - Karl der Große...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Would be nice if someone could.....
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      <title>the elm dance</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://www.joannamacy.net/html/elmdance.html
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&lt;br/&gt;Around the planet, as people gather to work together for the healing of our world, a simple, beautiful practice is spreading. To celebrate their commitment to life and solidarity with activists the world over, they join hands in a circle dance.
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&lt;br/&gt;Set to the haunting strains of a Latvian song, the Elm Dance took form in Germany in the 1980s, and in the early 1990s moved eastward to the areas poisoned by the Chernobyl disaster. There, and especially in Novozybkov, the most contaminated of inhabited cities, the dance became an expression of the will to live.
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&lt;br/&gt;When I was with the people of Novozybkov in 1992, I made them a promise: to tell their story wherever I went. In keeping that promise, I shared the Elm Dance. Then, in a way that no one could have imagined, the dance began to spread and spread and keep on spreading, beyond all reckoning, with a momentum of its own. As we began to realize, the dance gives activists and lovers of life the world over a tangible way to feel their bone-deep commitment and their solidarity with each other across the miles.
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&lt;br/&gt;Now we have found an equally tangible way to return the favor and honor the people of Novozybkov--by providing radiation monitors with group instruction in their use. This project, begun in spring of 2003, has already made great strides in reducing the uncertainty in people's lives and igniting ways of working together. As explained below, Elm Dancers everywhere are invited to take part.
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&lt;br/&gt;The Elm Dance music and story booklet are available for a $8 donation to Joanna Macy Intensives, 2812 Cherry St., Berkeley, CA 94705. Please specify tape or CD format. For more information, fax 510-649-9605 or email info@joannamacy.net .
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      <title>johana macy</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;this is her web page... lots of interesting material...
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.joannamacy.net/html/living.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Splitting the atom; a clue  to what meddling kids can do...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I wonder, do folk want this sort of thing posted here? I won't again if not but have tried all year on three message boards to get druids interested and have totally failed as far as I know except for Kreb Dragon Rider and Moonweed. 
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&lt;br/&gt; I have been blowing raspberries and excersising democracy (anti-nuclearealitly) since 1992, and totally enjoy faslane peace camp every visit (www.faslane.co.nc) as it is compost poo postitive and there are kids dogs pixies and rogue elephants (nice noisy hoover tubes). They are one part of faslane365, a normaler set up synchronised in England (website below). I can't wait for the ceilidh on the Friday 28th Sept. As ever on Monday I will not get arrested as that is not my path, and easy to avoid. There are lots of other roles!. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Check out the beautiful Bamboo Blockade made by Japanese radiation victims who planted the camp cherry tree 25 years ago!
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&lt;br/&gt;Dear friends of Faslane 365,
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&lt;br/&gt;It is hard to believe that less than two months now remain in this extraordinary year of resistance. Thus far 114 Blockading Groups have made 164 days of presence with 919 arrests and 37 prosecutions. It continues to be amazing to see so many diverse and creative groups each making their presence felt in their own distinct way. From the youthful creative energy of Bang-Europe (the true name of Next Generation) to the delightful highland games played by Assynt, this month has been no exception. But I think I speak for all of us when I say that the Bamboo Block by the Japanese had to be the most moving witness in this year of relentless testimony to the terror of nuclear weapons. We are united in our desire to make sure that there are, in the words of the Japanese banner, No More Hiroshimas, No More Nagasakis.
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&lt;br/&gt;We hope all of you who together have created this historic campaign of resistance can come together and bring new friends to press once more for the disarmament of Britain’s wmd at the BIG BLOCKADE on the FIRST of OCTOBER.
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&lt;br/&gt;Plan Beyond Faslane 365
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&lt;br/&gt;On Saturday 29th and Sunday 30th September in Glasgow there will be a planning session for continuing the energy of Faslane 365. For more info please contact us.
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&lt;br/&gt;Celebrate F365
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&lt;br/&gt;On the evening of Saturday 29th September we will have a celebration including music, poems and films. We invite your contributions.
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&lt;br/&gt;Accommodation, Training, Transport
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&lt;br/&gt;Accommodation and training will be available in Glasgow the evening before the Big Blockade. Coaches will be leaving Edinburgh at 4:30am and Glasgow at 5:30am on 1st October.
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&lt;br/&gt;To book contact 0845 45 88 365 or info@faslane365.org
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&lt;br/&gt;Spread the Word
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&lt;br/&gt;Faslane 365 Needs YOU to help make this Grand Finale a success by spreading the word. To download leaflets click here or call us to request a stack of leaflets.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>...why is nearly everybody still using thys uncorrect strange Sun "Gregorian" Calender ???</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;:  Gregorian  
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&lt;br/&gt;adj. of or pertaining to any of the popes named Gregory (especially Gregory I and Gregory XIII); of or pertaining to the Gregorian calendar 
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&lt;br/&gt;The Gregorian calendar is the most widely used calendar in the world. A modification of the Julian calendar, it was first proposed by the Calabrian doctor Aloysius Lilius, and was decreed by Pope Gregory XIII, for whom it was named, on 24 February 1582 via the papal bull Inter gravissimas. Its years are numbered based on the traditional birth year of Jesus, which is labeled the "anno Domini" (AD) era and sometimes "common era" (CE).
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&lt;br/&gt;:
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&lt;br/&gt;like octo  = 8           October 8  
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&lt;br/&gt;is the 281st day of the year in the Gregorian Calendar (282nd in leap years). There are 84 days remaining in the year.
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&lt;br/&gt;does thys meens  2+8+1  = 10 ???  hahhahahhahhahaha
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&lt;br/&gt;The octopus (Greek , 'eight-legs') is a cephalopod of the order Octopoda that inhabits many diverse regions of the ocean, especially coral reefs. The term may also refer to only those creatures in the genus Octopus. In the larger sense, there are 289 different octopus species, which is over one-third of the total number of cephalopod species.
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&lt;br/&gt;or 30 days and 31 days   thy crazy februar ........  
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&lt;br/&gt;...and so on.....smile.......
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&lt;br/&gt;do you know more errors fehler in there ?
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&lt;br/&gt;wyh not going with thy moon and thy stars ?
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&lt;br/&gt;in schweden thy say, no tree is standing where it has been standing before.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <dc:creator>dragonfamily</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;    And God said: Let us make man in our image, after our likeness - (Genesis 1:26)
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&lt;br/&gt;    The first man Adam became a living being, the last Adam a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven - 1 Corinthians 15:45
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&lt;br/&gt;    Man in made out of the dust of the ground. it is only after eating from the forbidden fruit that god said: "Behold, the man is become as one of us." - John G. Jackson (Pagan Origins of the Bible)
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      <title>New collaborative project: The Earth's Voices are Heard</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The Earth’s Voices are Heard is a collaborative project that explores the meanings in inter-species communication. This project aims to collect as many experiences of this type of communications as possible. From there, we can then see the commonalities that emerge in the messages. Join us, and share your experiences!
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&lt;br/&gt;Here's the tribe: http://tribes.tribe.net/tevah
&lt;br/&gt;Here's the blog: theearthsvoicesareheard.blogspot.com &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Saltwater fuel</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Breakthrough???Heres an interesting discovery.
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F0vycQ06a04&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>suggestions</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;if i was to print a t shirt with the design of this tribe the dragon tree rune would you include any text with that image??? &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>have no fear....christianity is as pagan as you want it to be...</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;wow...best definition i've heard for the Bible..."astrotheological literary hybrid" ....this film is PHENOMENAL.....judeo-christian faith pretty much a rip-off of Egyptian and other surrounding spiritualities....and is originally astrologically-myth based....another beautiful metaphorical story of the world, lost to greedy vampires....
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&lt;br/&gt;anyhow, here's the film...and there's a little more tacked on about current affairs: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>How Neo-Pagan Authors Might Handle the Chicken Crossing the Road</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://www.ecauldron.com/humorindex.php
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.ecauldron.com/humor46.php
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&lt;br/&gt;How Neo-Pagan Authors Might Handle the Chicken Crossing the Road
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&lt;br/&gt;Margot Adler: The recent chicken resurgence, it can be argued, is
&lt;br/&gt;directly based on a response to the suburban middle class experience.
&lt;br/&gt;While I found that chickens-who-cross-roads who responded to my survey
&lt;br/&gt;are of a wide range of ages and backgrounds, I discovered some trends
&lt;br/&gt;in the "why" of crossing the road. For some it is was freedom. For
&lt;br/&gt;some it is chickensim. Many chickens told me they crossed the road for
&lt;br/&gt;intellectual satisfaction. One thing is clear: the growth of road
&lt;br/&gt;crossing by chickens is expanding in the numbers of chickens and in
&lt;br/&gt;the ways they cross the road, including at chicken festivals and for
&lt;br/&gt;political blocking of roads.
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&lt;br/&gt;P.E.I. Bonewits: Real crossing-the-road, we have seen, is a very
&lt;br/&gt;interwoven and complicated subject. Our conclusion could be that real
&lt;br/&gt;crossing-the-road is the build up of chicken emotion in conjunction
&lt;br/&gt;with chicken concepts to vary the modulation of chicken energy so as
&lt;br/&gt;to effect the modulation of the road's energy. That's all! Perhaps it
&lt;br/&gt;is unfortunate, though, to use the word "chicken" in relation to it,
&lt;br/&gt;since the "C" word is being used now in a way it was never used before
&lt;br/&gt;in the English language and is an utterly meaningless term without a
&lt;br/&gt;qualifying adjective. And this, of course, is the fault of the
&lt;br/&gt;medieval Christian Church, through the Gothic Chickens it invented and
&lt;br/&gt;used as the basis of persecuting men, women and chickens. The word
&lt;br/&gt;"chicken" itself comes from an Indo-European root, "cheeka/e" meaning
&lt;br/&gt;"one who lays eggs," and it has no relation to the later Anglo-Saxon
&lt;br/&gt;word for "wise spirit of flight," as so often stated by certain
&lt;br/&gt;contemporary "Chics." An'Chk'Rrhod ("Our Own Chickens on Our Own
&lt;br/&gt;Roads"), an authentic Neo-Chicken Rooster tradition, offers the best
&lt;br/&gt;of paleo-, meso- and neo- Chickenism.
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&lt;br/&gt;Carlos Castenada 4/10/1964: I spent 14 hours, without food or water,
&lt;br/&gt;sitting on the dirt and under the sun in front of Don Juan's house,
&lt;br/&gt;grinding chicken feed. I asked Don Juan if I could have a drink of
&lt;br/&gt;water, and he told me that it was always this way, that a man who
&lt;br/&gt;wanted to cross the road with the chicken cannot have any food or
&lt;br/&gt;water till the chicken feed is ground. I asked Don Juan if the chicken
&lt;br/&gt;is an ally, like the little smoke. Don Juan seemed to get angry and
&lt;br/&gt;stayed silent. After I completed grinding the corn, I hallucinated
&lt;br/&gt;from heat exhaustion, and Don Juan said I was ready. As I collapsed to
&lt;br/&gt;my side, I spilled the chicken feed around me. A chicken appeared to
&lt;br/&gt;be eating the feed around me, and I became strangely absorbed in the
&lt;br/&gt;vision. I heard Don Juan's voice tell me, "You must let the chicken
&lt;br/&gt;cross the road into you. It is very painful, but for a man of
&lt;br/&gt;knowledge it is easy."
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&lt;br/&gt;Scott Cunningham: A chicken passes between the grasses, clucking. The
&lt;br/&gt;wind blows, and the chicken knows, knows, that this is the time. She
&lt;br/&gt;puts her energy into taking the steps, in harmony with the gravel and
&lt;br/&gt;the stones of the road. She is across; it is over, and the chicken
&lt;br/&gt;stands in the field on the other side of the road. Natural chicken
&lt;br/&gt;crossing is unique among most other branches of the art of chicken
&lt;br/&gt;road crossing. It doesn't require years of collecting or fashioning
&lt;br/&gt;coops, feeders or hen houses. Indeed, the most important tools of
&lt;br/&gt;natural chicken crossing are free: the road, the chicken and you, your
&lt;br/&gt;personal chicken power. You're already familiar with it. You've felt
&lt;br/&gt;it. You are a chicken. Crossing the road is you, with your chicken
&lt;br/&gt;need. And, you can do it on your own. After all, who initiated the
&lt;br/&gt;first chicken?
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&lt;br/&gt;Janet and Stewart Farrar: Since so many editions of Gardner's Chicken
&lt;br/&gt;Book of Crossings have appeared in print (some accurate, some not), we
&lt;br/&gt;think it won't "lay an egg" too much if we clearly present "The
&lt;br/&gt;Chicken Crossing Rite," especially if we do so after two and half
&lt;br/&gt;pages of well researched introduction set in six-point type. In
&lt;br/&gt;version A of the Chicken Crossing Rite, we find many pseudo-archaisms
&lt;br/&gt;(e.g.,"Yea, Ye Anciente Rite of Ye Chiks and Ye Rodes is a moste
&lt;br/&gt;powerful Crafting,taking thy athame..."); however, Doreen Valiente
&lt;br/&gt;notes (in version C, which is what we present), and we agree, that
&lt;br/&gt;underlying it all is a basic ritual for summoning the astral road
&lt;br/&gt;through the spirit of the Chicken (drawn down in the person of the
&lt;br/&gt;High Priestess, holding the black handled feed bin; of course, a
&lt;br/&gt;second degree may assist or perform the rite when.
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&lt;br/&gt;Llewellyn's Practical Chicken Magick Series: To some people, the idea
&lt;br/&gt;that "chickens crossing the road" is practical comes as a surprise. It
&lt;br/&gt;shouldn't. The whole idea of Crossing the Road is practical for
&lt;br/&gt;chickens. While Crossing the Road is also, and properly so, concerned
&lt;br/&gt;with spiritual growth and psychological transformation --the "why" of
&lt;br/&gt;crossing the road-- every chicken's life must rest firmly on material
&lt;br/&gt;roads. Crossing the Road is the flowering of chicken potential. And
&lt;br/&gt;the profits from publishing all those books on how to do so? Well,
&lt;br/&gt;that ain't chicken feed.
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&lt;br/&gt;Starhawk: The chicken crossed the road to reclaim the crossing
&lt;br/&gt;experience, the experience of being fully alive, with streams and
&lt;br/&gt;earth and rocks and road, in the fullness of her chickenhood after
&lt;br/&gt;thousands of years of roosterarchy. The chicken crossing the road
&lt;br/&gt;--not a chicken laying eggs, not a chicken being roasted and eaten-- a
&lt;br/&gt;chicken strong and free, crossing the road, this is something I can
&lt;br/&gt;believe in. We chickens, as chickens, can reclaim this in harmony with
&lt;br/&gt;the Earth who gives life to all chickens and Who has been terribly
&lt;br/&gt;scratched by roosters. Exercises: Dance the Spiral Chicken.
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&lt;br/&gt;Doreen Valiente: Old Chicken really did exist, and she really did
&lt;br/&gt;cross the road. Gerald talked about her often, but she didn't cross
&lt;br/&gt;the road till before I began studying with Gerald. Still there are
&lt;br/&gt;records of Old Chicken which confirm her reality. As for all the
&lt;br/&gt;comments that Gerald had a "thing" for chickens, that is simply not
&lt;br/&gt;true. The reason we worked with chickens is really quite simple: it
&lt;br/&gt;worked!
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&lt;br/&gt;Silver Raven Wolf: Although many times people have asked me why
&lt;br/&gt;exactly the chicken crossed the road, I often wonder myself. My point
&lt;br/&gt;is that every chicken comes to the road in a different way, and there
&lt;br/&gt;is no one correct way for the chicken to get to the road to be
&lt;br/&gt;crossed. The study of crossing the road is hard work if the chicken is
&lt;br/&gt;going to develop any degree of proficiency. It is not something where
&lt;br/&gt;you can just cluck yourself across the road. The first time my chicken
&lt;br/&gt;crossed the road was for my chicken's friend, whose rooster was being
&lt;br/&gt;abusive. The chicken worked the steps for crossing the road after
&lt;br/&gt;carefully considering all the reasons for crossing the road and all
&lt;br/&gt;the steps she would have to take. Finally, my chicken just started
&lt;br/&gt;clucking and flapping her wings and started across the road. When she
&lt;br/&gt;reached the other side, her friend's rooster was respectful!
&lt;br/&gt;Afterwards, the chicken ate some corn to ground herself.
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&lt;br/&gt;Great Book, on this, to go deep to our man-kind roots, step by step by step and step ...Dionysus...  Shiva  Wotan  = Odin.
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&lt;br/&gt;A Live Issue
&lt;br/&gt;Ancestors, Archaeologists and the 'Reburial Issue' in Britain
&lt;br/&gt;Copyright © by Jenny Blain and Robert J Wallis 2006
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&lt;br/&gt;        This paper is a companion to one that appeared in British Archaeology in September 2004. There, we were trying to help archaeologists understand pagan views of landscape, sacredness, 'heritage' and some aspects of the 'reburial issue'. Here, we're trying to show something of the issues faced by heritage management, and maybe archaeology more generally, with regards to pagan claims to 'indigeneity": and at the same time to open some questions relating to reburial and ancestors. We know that many pagans are discussing these issues, and there are many views: here as elsewhere, pagans do not speak 'with one voice'/ How indeed could we do so? Paganism is not one 'thing' but a wide ranging association of religious traditions, emerging from different worldviews.
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&lt;br/&gt;        Currently, archaeologists worldwide are engaging with calls from indigenous communities for the repatriation and reburial of ancestral remains. As, co-directors of the Sacred Sites, Contested Rights/Rites Project, we (Jenny Blain and Robert Wallis) are examining contemporary pagan engagements with prehistoric archaeology in Britain, and so we turn our attention to a reburial issue closer to home: how heritage views and pagan views differ, and sometimes agree, about how human remains and associated artefacts are excavated and curated.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Introduction
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&lt;br/&gt;    At the summer solstice in 2004, English Heritage facilitated 'managed open access' allowing an estimated thirty thousand people into the Stonehenge environs, the fifth consecutive year such an event had occurred. Two years later, in 2006 with the solstice on a weekday, there were around 21 thousand people present. Earlier in 1998, 16% of people expressed 'spiritual motivation' as their reason for visiting Avebury, the World Heritage Site twin to Stonehenge, and 11% said 'personal meditation' was the purpose of their visit. Figures such as these are starting to show the heritage industry that pagans are serious about their attachment to 'sacred sites'; as a focus of increasing attention and tension, and therefore that interest in archaeological sites and the past from Britain's contemporary pagans warrants serious academic scrutiny.
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&lt;br/&gt;    In 2001 we started an academic project, based on previous work: so now the Sacred Sites, Contested Rights/Rites project, co-directed by an archaeologist, Dr Robert J Wallis (Richmond University), and an anthropologist, Dr Jenny Blain (Sheffield Hallam University), and recently funded by the ESRC (Economic and Social Research Council, RES-000-22-0074), has spent the past five years attending to theoretical and pragmatic on-site issues of how British prehistoric archaeological sites have been renamed 'sacred sites' by contemporary pagans who engage with them spiritually and by heritage management itself which has had to negotiate these issues. In doing this, we have been exploring practical and theoretical issues of paganisms and identities in today's society, meanings of 'sacredness', beliefs and practices. We are working within an academic environment. We are trying to explain pagan practices, to those within that environment. We're also picking up on how heritage personnel, and archaeologists, themelves regard paganisms and view pagan practices at sacred sites. Their use of the discourse (of the 'sacred site') is interesting. David Miles (Chief Archaeologist, English Heritage), while involved with pagans at the excavation of 'Seahenge', said that he accepted Seahenge was a 'sacred site'. And Clews Everard, until recently site manager at Stonehenge, used 'sacred site' as a term which might develop dialogue between the interest groups involved in 'round table' negotiations over summer solstice access and other ritual occasions (pers.com.). The Sacred Sites project has examined the renewed currency of 'sacredness' in archaeology and pagan discourse, and the interface between them. The issues raised have implications for, most obviously, archaeologists who excavate and interpret sacred sites, and heritage managers who curate (re-present, manage and conserve) them. The implications extend to anthropologists interested in constructions of identity in contemporary Britain, local communities, the hospitality industry and, of course, pagans….
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&lt;br/&gt;    Paganisms and archaeology today
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&lt;br/&gt;    Part of our task becomes interpreting 'paganisms' for the heritage- industry: that is, attempting to convince archaeologists and others that pagans are serious and sincere about their paganism, and that just as not all archaeologists think in the same ways, so do pagans differ. 'Contemporary paganism',covers an alliance of (more of less) nature- orientated religions, paths or traditions ranging from polytheism and animism to duo or even monotheism; that is, it is not a singular religion or centrally coherent belief system. The pagan paths most familiar to archaeologists are Wicca, Druidry (well-known for its interest in Stonehenge as well as the European Iron Age past) and Heathenry, and some archaeologists, of course, are themselves pagan, often Druid or Heathen. To those unfamiliar with pagans, our interests in cultures and spiritualities of the past may appear, at first glance, laughable, spurious, inauthentic and romantic; and indeed some pagans may romanticise 'the past' in order to 're-enchant' their lives in an increasingly secular society. But an increasing number of archaeologists are now realising that paganism is far more complex than tabloid stereotypes: many pagans are deeply committed to their religious practices and take their interest in prehistoric 'ancestors' very seriously. Pagan archaeologists may report that their interest in 'the past' arose from their paganism, and pagan worldviews are increasingly attracting the attentions and imaginations of people in today's Britain. So there is a growing awareness among heritage personnel that pagans' interests in the past need to be engaged with and taken seriously, by those whose professional interests lie with the past.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Yet some archaeologists do still express considerable antagonism towards 'pagans' or 'Druids' - saying, for instance that they just get in the way of excavations and that they interpret things 'wrongly' or ask questions (awkward questions, we wonder?).
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&lt;br/&gt;    Sacred Sites
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&lt;br/&gt;    Not all pagans 'visit' sacred sites, but those that do may do so in a way which goes beyond simply 'visiting': such places may be where the presence of ancestors, gods, goddesses, wights and other nature/spirit beings is felt most strongly, and where communication with these other- than-human persons' is particularly effective. The places may be considered, simply, as 'home'. Rituals and ceremonies, however simple or elaborate, may take place at any time, though they are most obvious at these sites during 'pagan festivals', such as Beltane, Summer Solstice, Samhain, Winternights, Winter Solstice or Yule (pagans do not all mark the same festivals), which celebrate, at both individual and community levels, the turning of the seasons and subtle changes in people (human and other-than-human). Seasonal Heathen, Druid or other pagan rites happen at hundreds of archaeological sites across the British Isles and Ireland, and indeed other parts of Europe, as well as Australia and the US. Also to be considered is the phenomenon of 'Goddess Tourism', experienced by its clients as pilgrimage to important sites worldwide, and constituting a substantial industry (just as do organised pilgrimages to Christian shrines). Avebury, Stonehenge and Callanish are major focuses of this branch of the tourist industry.
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&lt;br/&gt;    While most rites leave no trace of their occurrence, others may have a significant impact on sites. Instances of graffiti and fire damage have been reported, as we and indeed many other pagans have remarked on, at Avebury, and have photographed, alas, at Castlerigg in the Lake District. Most seem, like the Castlerigg events, accidental, a result of 'not thinking about' the effects of heat on turf and stone, particularly wet stone. Some extreme and deliberate examples include a group named 'Friends of the Stone' which ignited ersatz napalm at Men-an-Tol in Penwith, Cornwall, and more recently the daubing of yellow gloss paint on the Rollright stone circle. It is not clear which pagans are involved in these latter instances, or whether pagans are involved at all: what is at issue is that it is pagans who are being linked with such events, and why this should be so.
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&lt;br/&gt;    We are trying to explain to the heritage industry that such incidents are atypical of pagan engagements with sites, since pagans tend to have reverence for 'places of power' and many tend also to agree with the 'preservation ethic' of heritage discourse. To show their respect, some pagans leave votive offerings, increasingly in some places, from flowers and mead, to more enduring 'ritual litter' such as candles, incense and crystals. Such material is common in West Kennet long barrow (where tealight heat is cracking orthostats) and at a wide variety of other 'sacred sites', especially stone circles and related megalithic monuments. In the end, someone has to clear up the material remains of pagans rites: in general, this job is seen to fall to National Trust and English Heritage site curators (though always assisted by anonymous individuals who saw clearing up sites as their own form of offering, taking along their own 'sacred sacks' for the 'sacred litter' they knew they would find there); however, over the years, groups such as SOSS (Save Our Sacred Sites) and ASLaN (Ancient Sacred Landscape Network) have established, in at least some archaeologists minds, that pagans are concerned and active participants in site litter-clearance. The promotion of suitable site etiquette is obviously a concern, and conservation-conscious pagans promote the maxim 'leave only footprints', borrowed from the Country Code and environmental/heritage groups in Britain and the US. Nonetheless, pagan engagements with the past extend beyond the day-to-day use of sites for ceremonies - increasingly, pagan discourse engages with the meanings of sacred place, how ancestors engaged with them, and of course 'reburial'.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Reburial and ancestors
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&lt;br/&gt;    The 'reburial issue' is one which heritage management has had to negotiate elsewhere. The politics of the reburial of prehistoric human remains and associated artefacts has been a 'hot topic' in the US and Australia. The example of Kennewick Man in the USA illustrates how the claims of contemporary Pagans - however controversial - have been included alongside those of archaeologists and indigenous groups. In this famous case, not only were claims made on prehistoric remains by both local Native American communities and a local pagan organisation, the Asatru Folk Assembly (unusually, among pagans, being right-wing), but also both groups were granted access to the remains to perform ceremonies which honoured the 'ancestor', while the scientific analyses of the physical anthropologists were halted by law. This was a complicated case, too complex to examine sufficiently here, but it certainly evinces the way in which both indigenous groups and, now, contemporary pagans, are making claims to the past, including reburial - with ramifications for pagans and archaeologists in Britain.
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&lt;br/&gt;    On the one hand we have 'repatriation': for instance, a Ghost Dance shirt brought to the UK by Buffalo Bill was returned in 2000 to the Lakota (Sioux) by Glasgow's Kelvingrove Museum, to the accompaniment of considerable publicity; then, in 2001 the Royal College of Surgeons revised its policy on considering the return of human remains following requests from indigenous groups; and, a working group set up in 2002 to examine 'the current legal status of human remains within the collections of publicly funded Museums and Galleries in the United Kingdom', has made recommendations (Human Remains Report, November 2003) for dealing with requests for the return of human remains, notably the assessment of claims by an independent expert panel - greeted with approval by the World Archaeological Council. This working group did not, however, make explicit recommendations with regard to British prehistoric material.
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&lt;br/&gt;    On the other hand, some British pagans, drawing on such indigenous claims and, indeed, on the response of the working group, have been calling for the 'return to the earth' or reburial of some (not all) prehistoric remains. They are not alone in this call, nor is their voice a 'fringe' one., Archaeologists and museum curators are discussing unease among members of the public when seeing prehistoric human remains (for instance on forums such as a British archaeology email list) and some reveal considerable sympathy for the call for (at least) their removal from public view. Pagan calls, though, go further, regarding context and philosophy of reburial as well as a need to 'remove' the remains from public view, with reports in the national press and pagan magazines (e.g. 'Pagans Angry at Christian Burial' in The Times [24.10.99] and articles by Davies and Shallcrass in the BDO purblication The Druid's Voice in recent years, discussed below).
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&lt;br/&gt;    Through rituals, pagans may identify themselves as spiritually allied with the prehistoric peoples who built the monuments. Rites at megalithic tombs and related sites - from Mesolithic pits (in the Stonehenge car park) to bronze age round barrows along parts of the Ridgeway - involving potential communication with prehistoric 'ancestors' in particular, prompt participants to feel a responsibility to ancient peoples and the 'sacred sites' themselves. In turn, not only have pagans been collaborating with site managers in site welfare, such as picking up litter and removing chalk graffiti; they have also begun to address issues of 'ancestor' welfare; i.e. concerns over the archaeological excavation and storage of human remains and artefacts, and indeed challenging the excavation process itself. Archaeologists excavating at Avebury in recent field seasons, for example, have had to deal with interest - some of it negative with regard to the excavation, some of it positive- from local and other Druids and pagans. Even a small, very shallow, excavation at the Nine Ladies on Stanton Moor - attempting to find out the extent of erosion cause by visitors' feet! - attracted considerable questions, some potentially hostile, about the 'right' of archaeologists to disturb the circle's ambiance and its relationship with the landscape.
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&lt;br/&gt;    In the meantime, yet another working group (Church of England and English Heritage, 2005) has produced a report on Guidance for Best Practice for Treatment of Human Remains Excavated from Christian Burial Grounds in England. This emphasises the need for treating any remains found with 'dignity and respect', but very obviously works within a Christian worldview - such was its remit.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Druids' Voices
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&lt;br/&gt;    Some pagans have framed their approaches to British reburial in language similar to that of Native Americans and other indigenous communities. This is how British Druid Order member Paul Davies raised the issue in The Druid's Voice:
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&lt;br/&gt;        Every day in Britain, sacred Druid sites are surveyed and excavated, with associated finds being catalogued and stored for the archaeological record. Many of these sites include the sacred burials of our ancestors. Their places of rest are opened during the excavation, their bones removed and placed in museums for the voyeur to gaze upon, or stored in cardboard boxes in archaeological archives…I believe we, as Druids, should be saying "Stop this now. These actions are disrespectful to our ancestors. When archaeologists desecrate a site through excavation and steal our ancestors and their guardians…It is a theft…We should assert our authority as the physical guardians of esoteric lore. We should reclaim our past.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Davies's view clearly has an indigenous-inspired tone to it. Given that many pagans, including Shamanic practitioner, actively engage with indigenous spiritual practices (however contentious this may be, with implications of appropriation of 'indigenous' spiritual practices and meanings), such rhetoric is not surprising -some pagans perceiving themselves as 'new tribes' or in the phrasing we've used, 'new indigenes'. To Davies, the reburial of prehistoric human remains in Britain 'makes perfect sense; bones are living people and should therefore be respected and ceremonially reburied' (P. Davies in Druids' Voice 1998/9:11), and he outlines how pagans can get directly involved in this issue:
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&lt;br/&gt;        I speak for the ancestors and guardians of the land, those spirits not currently represented in the archaeological record…The Druid or Pagan shaman can use their gifts as 'harmonic bridges' to communicate between the realities of archaeology, land developers and Pagan Druids…Druids should join together and encourage debate between archaeologists and museums in the reburial issue (pp:10-12).
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&lt;br/&gt;    Quite obviously, individual pagans and pagan groups do not have agreed core beliefs or practices, let alone centralised spiritual beliefs concerning disposal of the dead. Nor is their discourse on 'ancestors', in a multicultural Britain, clear-cut (and, of course, nor should we expect it to be). Some pagan groups, like some non-pagan groups, adopt attitudes to 'blood-and-soil' issues, in which particular 'ancestors' become important. (It should be noted that the Kennewick Man controversy in the US was linked to issues that had more than a hint of racism, with some of the pagans involved claiming the bones to be those of an ancient European and hence in some convoluted sense their ancestor.) Within religious studies in Britain, Anne-Marie Gallagher has explored how an assumption of kinship with a romanticised 'Celtic' distant past can lead to implicit exclusion. We (Jenny and Robert) have likewise looked at how a few heathens use concepts of separateness and indeed how the idea of neatly bounded 'peoples' each with their own unique 'religion' and 'pantheon' can rather easily slide into ideas of ethnic exclusion, cultural supremacy, and indeed racism. But it seems to us that the majority of pagans walk a liberal line of ethnic tolerance and inter- racial dialogue. Nonetheless, in the 'time of tribes', the reburial issue is gathering momentum and coherency. Stonehenge, within the context of the Management Plan and disputed proposals for a tunnel to replace part of the A303, has been a focus for the British reburial issue, an issue which has been raised at Stonehenge Project meetings - the liaison group established to discuss the future of the Stonehenge environs. There are calls for some of the remains found at Avebury to be reburied there. Devizes museum (to name but one) holds a number of bronze age remains from the barrows around Avebury and Upton Lovell: can these be returned to the earth?
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&lt;br/&gt;    One initiative (with which we're involved) is the organisation Honouring the Ancient Dead (HAD), formed by well-known Druid Emma 'Bobcat' Restall Orr, as 'a British network organisation set up to ensure respect for ancient pagan human remains and related artefacts' (from homepage at www.honour.org.uk). This arose initially out of the controversies around Stonehenge 'options', but now is involved with a number of other issues including the protest camp at Prittlewell, where a Saxon cemetery is threatened by road building plans. Bobcat described to us its aim to facilitate 'clear interactions between archaeologists, historians, landowners, site caretakers, museums and collectors…and the pagan community':
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&lt;br/&gt;    The purpose of this interaction is clear and positive communication that will inspire a broader and deeper understanding of the sanctity of all artefacts (notably those connected with ritual, sacrifice, burial and human remains) sourced from the Pagan eras of the British Isles. HAD will be seeking assurances that there will be communication and consultation on matters relating to such artefacts and remains (pers.comm.)
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&lt;br/&gt;    HAD is not calling for mandatory reburial, but is concerned to further dialogue between the interest groups and in particular establish consultation between these groups during excavations as well as the opportunity for pagans to 'make ritual in appropriate ways, honouring the spirits involved'. There are issues here of how 'appropriate ritual' is constituted, since we do not know what sorts of rituals, if any, were associated with these remains, and this is also something seen as problematic in some quarters of the pagan community, as discussed on the Association of Polytheist Traditions (APT) and BritWitch email lists. Clearly 'the pagan community' can never be in its entirety represented by HAD - we might rather speak of diverse and often conflicting pagan communities (Bobcat is in agreement, here). The aims of HAD to promote dialogue and respect seem useful ones to pursue.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Other pagans are pushing for more than respect for 'ancestors', the possibility of ritual, and dialogue on reburial. Philip 'Greywolf' Shallcrass asked a National Trust representative:
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&lt;br/&gt;        …if there was any possibility that priests used to working with the spirits of our ancestors could get access when such burials were uncovered and could make ritual for the spirits of the dead… He expressed his personal sympathy to the idea. Inspired by this initial contact, I wrote a letter to some appropriate folk in English Heritage and the National Trust. In it, I expressed my concern that any burials found might simply end up in boxes in a museum basement. I asked for access to burials on site when they were uncovered, for permission to make ritual before burials were removed, and also whether it would be possible to re-bury the ancestral remains after a suitable period of study… The National Trust are putting my letter forward to the next meeting of the Stonehenge Archaeology Group and I'm awaiting developments.
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&lt;br/&gt;    After further meetings of the Stonehenge Project, Greywolf had this to say:
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&lt;br/&gt;        I've come to focus on respect and reburial as my primary reasons for being involved in the talks. I don't like the idea of any remains that may be uncovered during the work ending up either in a museum display or filed away in a cardboard box in a storeroom. I have been, and will continue asking for any remains that are found to be treated with respect and then returned to the earth as near as possible to their original burial sites, preferably with any accompanying grave goods and with suitable ritual.
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&lt;br/&gt;    He explicitly states that respect and reburial is his main reason for involvement with the Stonehenge Project. While some archaeologists, especially osteoarchaeologists, might react with outrage, and while private landowners may find themselves in a difficult position on this issue (perhaps erring on the side of anti-reburial on their land),some pagans have been proactive in negotiations and have had some success in their campaigns. Philip Shallcrass (in The Druid's Voice, 2003) reported on his involvement in the reburial of an early Saxon woman in the Woodford Valley, near Stonehenge. Following excavations by Wessex Archaeology, and a period of scientific analysis, the Home Office agreed to a reburial. The District Council's Director of Housing and Health sanctioned the burial site in the near vicinity of the original excavations, after which Wessex Archaeology (who had legal and moral responsibility over what they had excavated) reburied the woman's remains. Clearly, calls for and negotiations over reburial are not only in evidence, but reburial itself, in this instance at least, is now in effect.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Negotiating the Issues
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&lt;br/&gt;    In November 2003, an event at the British Museum facilitated the ritual re-engagement of a London-based Maori community (Ngati Ranana) with various Taonga - 'treasures': what many in the west would misleadingly and too simply term 'artefacts' - including those collected during the well-iknown voyages of Captain James Cook. This case exemplifies how a mutually beneficial and dialogic relationship between indigenous peoples and the current curators of such 'sacred' artefacts might be successfully established. While indigenous communities may be able to (and are compelled to by, for example Federal legislation in the US) demonstrate genetic or cultural links to satisfy the law, addressing the extent to which pagans can claim British prehistoric remains are 'theirs' is (obviously to many pagans) to miss the point.
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&lt;br/&gt;    First, dialogue between heritage management and pagan 'new-indigenes' is already in action at several sites including Stanton Moor, Thornborough Henges, the Rollright Stones, and most noticeably, Stonehenge. While each of these is different, the first two - Stanton Moor and Thornborough - show how pagans and heritage management may recognise that sometimes they are fighting the same corner: their interests (protecting heritage or sacred space) coincide against quarrying proposals. Recent pagan-heritage negotiations over the British 'reburial issue' at sites of prehistoric burial and their associated artefacts, too, suggest similar - respectful - processes are in effect. Just as pagans do not all leave tea-lights and drip wax over ancient monuments, archaeologists do not all treat prehistoric burials or cremated remains lightly. Current archaeological publications stress 'respect' - an example being Mike Parker-Pearson's The Archaeology of Death and Burial, which has an appendix on guidelines for practice devoted to the respectful treatment of remains.
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&lt;br/&gt;    And second, the issue here is not one of 'repatriation' or exclusive 'ownership' of remains or artefacts. In other places, indigenous people - having to prove indigeneity by (let's face it) neo-colonial requirements, are required to stake an exclusive claim based on kinship or land use from 'time immemorial'. Most pagans, whatever their claims on the past, generally do not, and cannot, claim an exclusive relationship to 'the ancestors'. As a Heathen friend points out, in Britain we are 'all mongrels'. In a sense, rather than our ancestry determining the relationship to landscape, it is how we see the landscape that affects whom we see as 'ancestors' - including those who have been on the land before us, those who have made the trackways and the stories that we now re-experience.
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&lt;br/&gt;    And, this issue gets still more complicated. On the surface, it's about an 'objective' academic/heritage discourse versus public understanding; or of (scientific) authenticity versus (perceived 'wacky' pagan) inauthenticity. We think that both issue and perceptions are much more complicated There are not two groups or two discourses but diversity in spiritual practices, understanding, and relationships, and many voices need to be heard. Academically we can say that the issue is of multivocality, maintained through many discourses that convey spirituality as well as forms of knowledge and power.
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&lt;br/&gt;    On which note: some more reactionary archaeologists may perceive they have the power - and obligation - to make such charges of inauthenticity because 'scientific' archaeological claims are perceived to be more objectively substantive than pagan interpretations, and because pagans have no 'unbroken line' to the past. But increasingly within archaeological theory and practice (in line with current social sciences and humanities research methods generally) there is a recognition of many 'ways of knowing' about the past, and a recognition that the past and its stories are 'for' people today. Archaeology is about interpretation, and interpretations are created within political and spiritual contexts, for a purpose. In the current politically aware and interpretative climate of archaeology, with its emphasis on community engagement, dialogue, and 'public archaeology', there is need for archaeologists, heritage managers and others to be self-reflective, accountable and transparent, and for them to open up their research/data to external scrutiny. So the issue is really whether archaeologists are prepared to address social pluralities that include paganisms, and negotiate and dialogue with pagans, rather than dismiss them as 'fringe' and 'eccentric'. Clearly, some are: indeed museum staff and archaeologists are asking for input, seeking guidance, seeking to understand worldviews. Currently The Manchester Museum is planning a conference to bring together pagans, archaeologists and museum personnel, with an object to offer 'practical guidance for museums and archaeologists considering reburial as an option' according to its initial draft programme.
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&lt;br/&gt;    And in turn, there is need for pagans (of what ever persuasion) to appreciate complexities of the reburial issue. Remains and artefacts are taken from the earth. Can we always just put them back? There are, on museum shelves, bones whose previous context in landscape is now destroyed: built on and in, quarried away, changed through the numerous processes in which humans engage with landscape. Where should they go? Today little excavation is carried out for its own sake, but these is considerable rescue archaeology - excavation to gain knowledge before a place is removed for building purposes or a landscape irreparably altered.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Even if there is a place to which bones, or a cremation urn, can be returned, what of the artefacts placed with these remains - for a purpose? If they are replaced in a barrow, what happens if they are located by a metal-detector? If they are retained by the museum, is the purpose of reburial then served? And, are there ways in which having artefacts 'on view' increases the respect shown to the cultures and peoples of our past?
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&lt;br/&gt;    If bones are replaced - what happens to the places where they are put, and how do the meaning of such places change for pagans? To illustrate, we can consider that notable monument frequented by thousands of pagans in a year, West Kennet Longbarrow in the Avebury landscape. If we can collect and replace the bones found there (some were of course destroyed), what happens to the monument? Currently visitors go past the great blocking slabs and into the chambers of the tomb. Do we replace remains, remove the concrete and the roof window, and re-seal the tomb? Some would see this as only fitting, but for other pagans the monument is currently a 'temple' where they make ritual, for instance taking advantage of the interesting acoustic properties of the (reconstructed) chambers. In the period in which the barrow was in use, it was not sealed, and there are indications of ritual taking place within it and in the forecourt of the tomb - what is possible in today's climate of opinion? These are hugely complex issues and.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Sacredness vis-à-vis Science
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&lt;br/&gt;    The 2003 Human Remains Report has met with its detractors. Views expressed include, at an extreme, those expressed online by Jenkins (2003), who points out, (quoting from p.7 of the report) that 'the affiliation of remains, as defined by the committee, extends 'beyond families' ties' to someone from the same 'country, culture or belief group' - in sum, anyone who might fall into the category of 'cultural descendants'. For Jenkins, this is a serious problem, denying the claims of scientists for the study of skeletal material. Similarly, this online critique suggests that according to the report, 'Every molecule, hair and fingernail is seen as sacred until proved otherwise'.
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&lt;br/&gt;    We see the report as having opened up a considerable debate, with room on all sides to explore the contested territory of what is 'sacred' and how 'science' may negotiate with the sacred. Today, indigenous peoples are joined by many British people - including pagans and archaeologists - in indicating that 'sacredness', rather than perceived 'objective' and universally applicable scientific knowledges, should be the default position: that indeed '[e]very molecule, hair and fingernail' is sacred, and so is the earth around. Prehistoric burials involve the deliberate placing of a 'person' (however variously constituted) within a landscape (also culturally constructed in some way). We cannot know the particular interpretations of that landscape, or the person's relation to it pertaining at the time of internment of skeletal or cremated material, or the meaning behind the burial or how a particular culture at a particular time conceptualised 'personhood'. We do know that there was an intention which, from comparison with ethnographic records and indigenous accounts today, suggests a consistent 'sacred' relationship. By interrupting the association of person, land, and grave-goods, we are intervening in that relationship.
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&lt;br/&gt;    We do not negate claims of scientific knowledge, nor do we automatically support the case for reburial put by Davies, Shallcrass and Restall Orr. We do suggest that the 'spiritual' evaluation of respect for British prehistoric remains is every bit as pressing as that for overseas indigenous claims, and we posit that science should have to make a particular case for the retention, in the private or public eye, of such material. In the wake of the report on Human Remains, we anticipate seeing similar recommendations for indigenous British material in the near future: and in the wake of the Church of English/English Heritage report, we anticipate an extension of the current idea of showing 'respect' into an appreciation of how that may be demonstrated or received within different worldviews.
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&lt;br/&gt;    This is an issue on which pagans will hold many differing views. It seems to us important that the issues are addressed and debated. So we close with a question to readers. Does this issue matter? If so, how does it fit with the worldviews that you hold? We welcome any thoughts and ideas.
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&lt;br/&gt;    Further Reading
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&lt;br/&gt;        * 3rd Stone. 1996. Editorial. 3rd Stone: The Magazine of the New Antiquarian 35: 3.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Antiquity. 1996. Reports: The Future of Avebury, Again. Antiquity. 70: 501-502.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Bender, B. 1998. Stonehenge: Making Space. Berg.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Blain, J., D. Ezzy and G. Harvey (eds). 2004. Researching Paganisms. Walnut Creek, California: AltaMira
&lt;br/&gt;        * Blain, J. and R.J. Wallis. 2001-2006. Sacred Sites, Contested Rights/Rites.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Chippindale, C., P. Devereux, P. Fowler, R. Jones and T. Sebastion. 1990. Who Owns Stonehenge? Batsford.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Church of England and English Heritage Working Group on Human Remains. 2005. Guidance for Best Practice for Treatment of Human Remains Excavated from Christian Burial Grounds in England.
&lt;br/&gt;        * Davies, P. 1998/9. Speaking for the Ancestors: The Reburial Issue in Britain and Ireland. The Druid's Voice: The Magazine of Contemporary Druidry 9 (Winter): 10-12.
&lt;br/&gt;        * DCMS (Department of Culture, Media and Sport) 2003. Report of the Working 