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      <title>Permaculture video</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=495ntje2mt
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      <pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 05:22:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tinkles</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-29T05:22:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>online book Mobilizing to Save Civilization</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;http://www.earth-policy.org/Books/PB3/Contents.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;Lester R. Brown
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Plan B 3.0: 
&lt;br/&gt;Mobilizing to Save Civilization 
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&lt;br/&gt;2008&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 21:24:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>libramoon</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-05-08T21:24:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Panama paradise pictures and opportunity.</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;We continue to move forward on the Panama property and have yet another investor who will join us pending his visiting the property the last week in April.
&lt;br/&gt;Also, there is a new link for the Google video showing the beautiful meadows - see below.
&lt;br/&gt;It looks like we have another 2 week window of opportunity to get those who are interested to see the property and/or place their investment in the safe escrow account for procuring the land once clear title can be obtained.  Let us know if you would like to visit during this time.
&lt;br/&gt;This is a spectacular 400 acre property in Panama for intentional community with rivers &amp;amp; waterfalls &amp;amp; year round springtime.  And, it backs up against the La Amistad National Park, one of the most biodiverse environments in South/Central America - a tremendous asset for hiking and an ecovillage.  We want you as a community member &amp;amp; investor.  Present owner needs to sell immediately &amp;amp; could sell it to a developer if we don't purchase it NOW!  It's only $3250 per acre! See the slide show at:
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&lt;br/&gt;http://s251.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/docvogue/adfa474e.pbw
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&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=841879949869730133&amp;amp;q=paradise+haven&amp;amp;total=67&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=100&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=0
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&lt;br/&gt;We presently have a number of committed &amp;amp; we need more $50k to $100k investors (safe in escrow) to move forward, particularly in the next 2 weeks.
&lt;br/&gt;If you are inspired by what you see &amp;amp; would love to be in community on a property that is divine &amp;amp; will skyrocket in value, contact us at your earliest convenience at sacrednamaste@gmail.com  We will call/write to you asap.  There’s much more information to share. Namaste!
&lt;br/&gt;Our mission/vision includes, Building a community which is sustainable on all levels: (ecological, financial, &amp;amp; social), Creating a quiet, peaceful, mindful, spiritual environment, Maintaining an on-site medical/healing center, Ensuring freedom of lifestyle for all members in their lifestyle choices, Shaping a living landscape which is spacious/open, ecologically sensitive, &amp;amp; architecturally beautiful &amp;amp; natural, Creating opportunities to celebrate &amp;amp; have fun, Fostering the arts &amp;amp; culture (music, photography, writing, fine arts, &amp;amp; performing arts), Ensuring that members are encouraged to act in integrity &amp;amp; transparency in their continuous support of building an emotionally-healthy community.&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 02:22:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-04-11T02:22:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Looking for living communites!</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello!
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&lt;br/&gt;This summer I am planning a short travel around the pacific northwest and some of the states closer to washington, and I was wondering if there are good communities that I can stop by for a few days, work, eat, and socialize with people. I'm a good worker and honest, so dont worry about sending some deadbeat off of tribe.net to this community you really love. I grew up on a farm, I know work well.
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks for any info!
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&lt;br/&gt;~Seb&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 26 Jan 2008 07:39:29 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>childofthecedars</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-01-26T07:39:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Invitation to an EcoVillage in Belize</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello Eco-friendlies,
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;On Christmas day of 2007 I headed down to Belize. Here in Belize I have been working on a few interesting projects, the focus of which is building a permaculture ecovillage in the tropical rainforest jungles of Belize within the heartland of the once powerful Mayan empire.
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&lt;br/&gt;The rainforest here is filled with an abundance of foods, medicines, beautiful animals, and of course sun, rain, and very rich soil.
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&lt;br/&gt;As part of the founding member team that is creating the ecovillage on 130 acres of pristine jungle, I would like to invite any and all who may be interested in coming down to visit and/or do a work-trade helping to co-create this wonderful place. Whether you'd like to actually come for a visit or not, I recommend at least becoming a member of the Better In Belize tribe at:
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/betterinbelize
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&lt;br/&gt;We're particularly looking for people who have knowledge of permaculture, gardening, eco-friendly off-grid living, and of course lively fun-loving spirits who are willing to learn and help. Spread the word to friends if you know someone who may be interested. ;)
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&lt;br/&gt;The property is located on one of the major rivers (The Macal) which flow out of the Mayan mountains. The site already has tropical fruits growing (Bananas, Jackfruit, Breadfruit, and more). Lots within the ecovillage are being sold for $29,000 an acre with specific rules for keeping 50% of it as greenspace, and any house plans must be passed by the community before allowing construction to make sure they fit the standard of eco-friendly. For $129,000 one can purchase 1 acre and get a 2 bedroom eco-home built as well that is fully self-sufficient on eco-power (Hydro/solar), bio-digester plumbing (includes methane production), and either filtered water from the river or a rainwater catchment system depending on the location within the community. It also comes with high-speed satellite internet hooked-up as well as access to other community resources.
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&lt;br/&gt;If you'd like to learn more, please check out the evergrowing website at: http://BetterInBelize.com
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&lt;br/&gt;and be sure to join the Better In Belize tribe at: http://tribes.tribe.net/betterinbelize
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&lt;br/&gt;Peace, Love, Unity, Respect,
&lt;br/&gt;Indra&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 00:03:10 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Indra</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-29T00:03:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>04/19-04/24 Introduction to Cob and Natural Building Prescott, AZ</title>
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&lt;br/&gt;Hey folks, a Friend of mine is hosting a workshop in AZ building a cob/natural building greenhouse. Whether you want to build a cob oven, bench, studio, or other such space...or are inspired by the ecological/community awareness, while simultaneously creating a tangible product you should check this out. If anyone is interested either personally or professionally in such a workshop you should look into www.SGNB.com (thats for Seven Generations Natural Builders). 
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&lt;br/&gt;Instructor:
&lt;br/&gt;Sasha Rabin (sasha@sgnb.com) 
&lt;br/&gt;Sasha Rabin has a degree in Ecological Design from Evergreen State College. She has studied natural and traditional methods of building in Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, Indonesia, and the southwest United States. Following an apprentice at the Cob Cottage Company she worked with them as an assistant instructor(2001) and went on to co-found Seven Genereation Natural Builders in 2003. She built a cob dwelling in the southwest US that she is curently living in. She contuinues to teach with SGNB, as well teaching as a guest instructor at the Real Good Institute for Solar Living(www.realgoods.com) / and Yestermorrow Design/Build School. (www.yestermorrow.org/) 
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&lt;br/&gt;(She is also flexible on the price if that is an issue but for a workshop that is a fair number!!!) &lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Wed, 02 Apr 2008 22:05:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>transcendance</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-04-02T22:05:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Looking for an Earth Woman Friendly community style living solution?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Looking for an Earth Friendly community style living solution?
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&lt;br/&gt;There is a Meeting of the Kindred Spirits coming up March 29th! And 
&lt;br/&gt;we do need to see some more Positive well integrated Female Energy in
&lt;br/&gt;this group who can work closely with others.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://edenvillage.net/18.htm
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&lt;br/&gt;We are still looking to organize a group of volunteers to
&lt;br/&gt;help out some good folks one day out of the week, with some 
&lt;br/&gt;organic gardening and we still do need someone to take Minutes 
&lt;br/&gt;at the next meeting.
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&lt;br/&gt;It would be possible, I would think, if there is a single female or
&lt;br/&gt;two out there who is cool about living closer to the Earth then
&lt;br/&gt;I may be able to provide a place for you to live, for 
&lt;br/&gt;maybe 6 months out of the year up where I live in Northern 
&lt;br/&gt;California.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If you can simply come to our next meeting on March 29th. - T
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://edenvillage.net/18.htm&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 10 Mar 2008 22:41:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Temeluch</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-10T22:41:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Intentional Community Paradise property available immediately</title>
      <link>http://tribes.tribe.net/eco-pioneers/thread/16a15b1d-0ad3-48e9-8026-5681f913dc02</link>
      <description>&lt;div&gt;Spectacular 400 acre property in Panama for intentional community with rivers &amp;amp; waterfalls &amp;amp; year round springtime.  We want you as a community member &amp;amp; investor.  Present owner needs to sell immediately &amp;amp; could sell it to a developer if we don't purchase it NOW!  It's only $3250 per acre?  See the slide show at:
&lt;br/&gt;http://s251.photobucket.com/pbwidget.swf?pbwurl=http://w251.photobucket.com/albums/gg311/docvogue/adfa474e.pbw
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We presently have four $100k investors committed &amp;amp; we need more $50k to $100k investors to move forward.
&lt;br/&gt;If you are inspired by what you see &amp;amp; would love to be in community on a property that is divine &amp;amp; will skyrocket in value, contact us at your earliest convenience at sacrednamaste@gmail.com  We will call/write to you asap.  There’s much more information to share. Namaste!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Our mission/vision includes, Building a community which is sustainable on all levels: (ecological, financial, &amp;amp; social), Creating a quiet, peaceful, mindful, spiritual environment, Maintaining an on-site medical/healing center, Ensuring freedom of lifestyle for all members in their lifestyle choices, Shaping a living landscape which is spacious/open, ecologically sensitive, &amp;amp; architecturally beautiful &amp;amp; natural, Creating opportunities to celebrate &amp;amp; have fun, Fostering the arts &amp;amp; culture (music, photography, writing, fine arts, &amp;amp; performing arts), Ensuring that members are encouraged to act in integrity &amp;amp; transparency in their continuous support of building an emotionally-healthy community&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Sat, 08 Mar 2008 00:46:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Steven</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-03-08T00:46:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>2008 Communities Conference at Twin Oaks Community</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;My name is Suede and I live at Twin Oaks Community in Louisa, VA. This year I'm co-organizing the Communities Conference at Twin Oaks for my 2nd year, though the conference has been happening for many years now. Thought I'd post some basic info on the conference for those interested in learning about community, expanding knowledge or just meeting new people. Feel free to contact me with any questions about Twin Oaks or our conferences.
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&lt;br/&gt;In Community,
&lt;br/&gt;Suede Machete
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&lt;br/&gt;Here's the info:
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&lt;br/&gt;The Communities Conference is a networking and learning opportunity for anyone interested or involved in co-operative or communal lifestyles. Join us for a weekend of sharing and celebration!
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&lt;br/&gt;Friday August 15 through
&lt;br/&gt;Sunday August 17, 2008
&lt;br/&gt;$85 (sliding scale) includes
&lt;br/&gt;meals and camping
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;With workshops and events focused on
&lt;br/&gt;~ Intentional relationships
&lt;br/&gt;~ Group process
&lt;br/&gt;~Collective child raising
&lt;br/&gt;~ Creating culture
&lt;br/&gt;~ Forming communities
&lt;br/&gt;~ Sustainability
&lt;br/&gt;~ Appropriate technology
&lt;br/&gt;~ Community economics
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Music
&lt;br/&gt;Dancing
&lt;br/&gt;Slide shows
&lt;br/&gt;Campfires
&lt;br/&gt;Swimming
&lt;br/&gt;Magic
&lt;br/&gt;More!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Respond to:
&lt;br/&gt;Twin Oaks Communities Conference
&lt;br/&gt;138 Twin Oaks Road, Louisa, Virginia 23093
&lt;br/&gt;540-894-5126
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&lt;br/&gt;conference@twinoaks.org
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&lt;br/&gt;For More Information, check out our website:
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&lt;br/&gt;www.communitiesconference.org
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&lt;br/&gt;Twin Oaks also hosts a Women's Gathering! Check that out at :
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;www.twinoaks.org/community...index.html&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:46:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2008-02-19T17:46:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>some interesting sites/efforts</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Probably familiar to many here, maybe new to some...
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&lt;br/&gt;First of all, being a city dweller, I'm very inspired by Kevin Danaher's vision for a global citizen center. I believe this is the kind of urban synergy that can help shape a sustainable future. Check it out &amp;amp; watch the video!
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.globalcitizencenter.org/
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Suprisingly, I don't recall seeing mention of Bioneers here on this tribe. Maybe I just missed it. It's an important hub of eco-pioneers. I'm excited that the big event will be beamed into Seattle this year, just a couple weeks away.
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.bioneers.org/
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&lt;br/&gt;Another very important networking hub is Wiser Earth.
&lt;br/&gt;http://wiserearth.org/
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&lt;br/&gt;Green dreams!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Oct 2007 08:42:15 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>LanSing</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2007-10-04T08:42:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Greenpeace is Hiring an Online Community Organizer</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Greenpeace is Hiring an Online Community Organizer 
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&lt;br/&gt;Hey Friends! 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Are you fascinated by the wonderful world of Web 2.0? Obsessed with Myspace, Facebook, Flickr, and Youtube? How about saving the planet? 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Greenpeace is looking for a talented Online Community Organizer to join our growing online organizing team. You will refine and execute our organizing and communications strategy in social networking sites like MySpace, Facebook, Care2, Flickr and YouTube with an aim to promote priority campaigns, recruit new online and on-the-ground activists, and amplify grassroots output to win .. environmental issues. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Greenpeace's work in online social networks goes beyond marketing -- we invest time and energy in implementing organizing strategies, building relationships, empowering influencers, and getting measurable results. You are someone who enjoys a creative challenge, thinks outside the box, has exceptional writing chops, and you're willing to do what needs to be done, from top-level strategizing to cutting and pasting and plugging away. 
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;This is a great position if you want to develop expertise in the most cutting edge online organizing, communications, and marketing skills in a rapidly growing non-profit field. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Responsibilities:
&lt;br/&gt;Write and post blogs, bulletins, and updates
&lt;br/&gt;Maintain profiles and groups with fresh content daily
&lt;br/&gt;Grow our presence in key online social networks
&lt;br/&gt;Build relationships with key online influencers, online and on the phone as needed
&lt;br/&gt;Stay up to date on the latest social networking tools, applications and features
&lt;br/&gt;Train and support staff and activist leaders in best practices in social network campaigning
&lt;br/&gt;Promote press releases in blogosphere 
&lt;br/&gt;Databasing and writing reports as needed
&lt;br/&gt;Conduct online research
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Qualifications:
&lt;br/&gt;Excellent written and verbal communications skills
&lt;br/&gt;Strong online research skills
&lt;br/&gt;Experience with online social networks
&lt;br/&gt;Familiarity with blogs, RSS feeds, html a plus 
&lt;br/&gt;Tech savvy and always looking for the next thing. 
&lt;br/&gt;Competency with excel and web databases
&lt;br/&gt;Ability to learn quickly in a fast-paced environment
&lt;br/&gt;Intellectual curiosity and creativity
&lt;br/&gt;Analytical and problem solving skills
&lt;br/&gt;Commitment to protecting the planet
&lt;br/&gt;A sense of adventure
&lt;br/&gt;On the ground organizing and activism experience preferred.
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&lt;br/&gt;Location: 
&lt;br/&gt;New York City or Washington, DC
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&lt;br/&gt;Salary:
&lt;br/&gt;$30,600/yr
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&lt;br/&gt;This is a contract position through the end of 2008, with a strong likelihood of becoming a permanent position thereafter.
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&lt;br/&gt;Excellent benefits package included.
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&lt;br/&gt;Deadline to Apply: February, 27, 2008
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&lt;br/&gt;To Apply: 
&lt;br/&gt;Please send cover letter, resume, and a brief writing sample to: organize@wdc.greenpeace.org. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Please Repost Widely! &lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Forced Sale</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;$440,000.00 
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&lt;br/&gt;Forced Sale....Private Reserve of Pacific Coast...Perfect for Ashram
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&lt;br/&gt;Once in a lifetime opportunity
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&lt;br/&gt;Own a slice of Costa Rican Pacific Jungle Paradise....
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;La Mona en Seda Reserva Privada
&lt;br/&gt;Las Delicias de Cobano
&lt;br/&gt;Horizontes de Montezuma
&lt;br/&gt;Costa Rica
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&lt;br/&gt;This private monkey reserve is just under two hectares of jungle
&lt;br/&gt;canopy and pasture situated at the southern tip of the
&lt;br/&gt;Nicoya Peninsula above the world famous beach town of Montezuma.
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&lt;br/&gt;The house of concrete and native hardwoods construction on a
&lt;br/&gt;private hilltop boasts fabulous ocean views and cooling breezes in
&lt;br/&gt;the front and monkey-filled mature canopy over a river with natural
&lt;br/&gt;swimming pool and waterfall in the back.
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&lt;br/&gt;There are extensive gardens with hundreds of butterflies and a
&lt;br/&gt;three tiered fountain for the animals enjoyment.
&lt;br/&gt;There is chan for the parrots, papayas for the toucans and bananas
&lt;br/&gt;for the monos.
&lt;br/&gt;You will find over a thousand plantings. Many fruit and nut trees
&lt;br/&gt;along with mature Guanacaste and Roble trees shade the property and
&lt;br/&gt;provide food for the monkeys.A huge native orange tree will keep you
&lt;br/&gt;and the parrots in juice all season.Sitar music and chants are
&lt;br/&gt;played daily for the health of all.
&lt;br/&gt;The reserve has been managed organically for four years and is a
&lt;br/&gt;vegetarian property as well.
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&lt;br/&gt;La Mona has been groomed to create an ashram, vegetarian
&lt;br/&gt;restaurant,healing center,yoga retreat or other conscious works.
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&lt;br/&gt;La Mona is just minutes to the beach and town by foot, horse or car
&lt;br/&gt;and still has the lowest property taxes in the region.
&lt;br/&gt;There is a caretaking family and gardener in place who would be
&lt;br/&gt;willing to work with the new owners.
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&lt;br/&gt;This titled property may be purchased with its exisiting corporation
&lt;br/&gt;to avoid taxes. 
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&lt;br/&gt; 
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.flickr. com/photos/ monkey_lover/ 2185661385/&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Jan 2008 01:58:59 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>Surplus: Terrorized into Being Consumers</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Surplus: Terrorized into Being Consumers
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&lt;br/&gt;This is a documentary featuring John Zerzan the infamous anarcho-primitivist from Eugene Oregon.  Zerzan talks of the alienation that technology has delivered while advocates of technology have promised ease of life and the potential for more leisure time.  Personally I agree with John about technology alienating, but I also know that we can not with 6 billion people return to a hunting and gathering way of life.  That even in when the human population was at 1 billion in 1800 we could only support that number of people without total inhumane institutions from slavery to child labour and from gender oppression to outright genocide of whole populations.  We need alternatives that are not just idealistic looks at hunting and gathering people and at the same time must deal with huge global issues in a just and fair way.  Issues such as global climatic change, over population, social injustice and alienation.
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&lt;br/&gt;Surplus: Terrorized into Being Consumers
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&lt;br/&gt;Wiki entry:
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&lt;br/&gt;Surplus: Terrorized Into Being Consumers is a 2003 Swedish documentary film on consumerism and globalization, created by director Erik Gandini and editor Johan Söderberg. It looks at the arguments for capitalism and technology, such as greater efficiency, more time and less work, and argues that these are not being fullfilled.
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&lt;br/&gt;Surplus - Terrorized into Being Consumers (in 10 parts from google.ca video)
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 1
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 2
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 3
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 4
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 5
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 6
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 7
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 8
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 9
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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&lt;br/&gt;Part 10
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2017292946244076538&amp;amp;q=Surplus&amp;amp;total=1246&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1
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      <title>A Beautiful video about the Flow of Water</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1598503208400404583
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      <title>Call to Action - Please support election transparency!</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Please support the initiative for a hand recount in NH! 
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&lt;br/&gt;http://grannywarrior.grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount
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&lt;br/&gt;this is very important as there is a deadline of 3pm (central) today (Jan 15th) to raise over $10,000 to initiate the recount... but the good news is that if any candidate pulls ahead of any other candidate all money you donate to this cause will be returned!! There could really be no better way to show your support for an open and honest election than to contribute to this cause!  
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&lt;br/&gt;Please send this message as far and wide as you can within the next 5 hours! ---&gt; as broke as I am these days I managed to scratch a hundred bucks up to donate to this... but even if you can only muster $10 wouldn't that be a small price to pay to know that our elections are being performed in a transparent and honest manner? 
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&lt;br/&gt;http://grannywarrior.grannywarrior.chipin.com/recount&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Hawaii Eco Community land being offered - Cheap</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The next door property is up for sale. 3 acres, asking price is $30k. get more info here; 
&lt;br/&gt;http://tribes.tribe.net/ecoark/thread/5349dc1d-b403-41c0-94a8-f0a46d1ff452&lt;/div&gt;
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      <pubDate>Mon, 14 Jan 2008 02:46:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <title>phase 3</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;this is it folks...
&lt;br/&gt;phase 3!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;and although that sounds cool...
&lt;br/&gt;it means nothing to those who might be new to the group.
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&lt;br/&gt;to better explain,
&lt;br/&gt;we are working within a 4 step system...
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;1st we take what we value from the past...
&lt;br/&gt;good and bad...
&lt;br/&gt;and we take some time to think about how it has helped us.
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&lt;br/&gt;2nd, building off our past we develop our vision of the future,
&lt;br/&gt;culminate our goals...
&lt;br/&gt;express our dreams!
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;for most of us this is all stuff we have done before...
&lt;br/&gt;we might be the type that has notebooks full of this kinda stuff.
&lt;br/&gt;if this is the case...
&lt;br/&gt;then, no doubt, you probably already do a lot of work within the 3rd stage as well...
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&lt;br/&gt;phase 3 asks...
&lt;br/&gt;where are you here and now?
&lt;br/&gt;what are you doing to make your vision a reality?
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&lt;br/&gt;what things to you do,
&lt;br/&gt;be them big or small,
&lt;br/&gt;to cultivate your dreams?&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Did RAND Corporation Pen the Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act?</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Did RAND Corporation Pen the Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act?
&lt;br/&gt;Published on Friday, November 23, 2007.
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&lt;br/&gt;By Kurt Nimmo
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&lt;br/&gt;According to Jessica Lee of Indypendent and Kamau Karl Franklin of the Center for Constitutional Rights, the Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act was penned with plenty of help from the RAND Corporation.
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&lt;br/&gt;“Rep. Jane Harman, Democrat from California, has had a lengthy relationship with the Rand Corporation,” Lee tells Democracy Now, although she was unable to determine if RAND wrote the bill. On the 12th anniversary of the OKC bombing, Rep. Harman, as chair of the Homeland Security Subcommittee on Intelligence, Information Sharing and Terrorism Risk Assessment, introduced the bill in the House of Representatives.
&lt;br/&gt;“The ‘Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007' seeks to address the roots causes of radicalization, and would establish a grant program to provide funds to States to foster badly needed vertical information sharing from the Intelligence Community to the local level and from local sources to state and federal agencies,” explains Harman’s website. “It also creates a Center of Excellence for the Prevention of Radicalization and Home Grown Terrorism to examine the social, criminal, political, psychological and economic roots of domestic terrorism and to propose solutions, and promotes international collaboration on strategies to combat radicalization."
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&lt;br/&gt;Franklin mentions Brian Michael Jenkins, an “expert” on “terrorism, counterinsurgency, and homeland security,” according to RAND. Jenkins is “someone who helped the United States in counterinsurgency measures in Vietnam,” states Franklin. “In addition to that, he wrote a book, and in his own book” Jenkins declared that “in their international campaign, the jihadists will seek common ground with leftists, anti-American and anti-globalist forces, who will in turn see radical Islam comrades against a mutual foe.”
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&lt;br/&gt;In short, according to Kamau Karl Franklin, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act is more about domestic political activism than Islamic terrorism, although it appears Jenkins—and neocons such as the former Marxist David Horowitz—are attempting establish a link between the two, an absurdity at best, as the best way to discredit both the antiwar and patriot movements.
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&lt;br/&gt;According to a Center for Constitutional Rights factsheet, RAND is a key player in the “domestic terrorism” prevention effort detailed in this draconian bill. A RAND study “Trends in Terrorism,” Chapter 4 on “homegrown terrorism,” advocates “special attention to environmentalist, Anti-globalization activist and anarchists as potentially new terrorist in the making.”
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&lt;br/&gt;Not surprisingly, RAND is intimately connected to the global elite and the military-industrial-intelligence complex: “The interlocks between the trustees at Rand, and the Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie foundations were so numerous that the Reece Committee listed them in its report (two each for Carnegie and Rockefeller, and three for Ford). Ford gave one million dollars to Rand in 1952 alone, at a time when the chairman of Rand was simultaneously the president of Ford Foundation,” notes SourceWatch (Rene Wormser, Foundations: Their Power and Influence, p65-66). “Two-thirds of Rand’s research involves national security issues. This is divided into Project Air Force, the Arroyo Center (serving the needs of the Army), and the National Defense Research Institute (providing research and analysis for the Office of the Secretary of Defense, the Joint Staff, and the defense agencies).”
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&lt;br/&gt;As Lee Rogers notes, the Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act, in its effort to flush out “terrorists,” including those opposed to the sort of globalism supported by Ford, Rockefeller, and Carnegie foundations, will perform an end-run around the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. The bill “states in the first subsection that in general the efforts to defeat thought crime shall not violate the constitutional rights, civil rights and civil liberties of the United States citizens and lawful permanent residents. How does this protect constitutional rights if they use vague language such as in general that prefaces the statement? This means that the Department of Homeland Security does not have to abide by the Constitution in their attempts to prevent so called homegrown terrorism.”
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&lt;br/&gt;This bill is completely insane. It literally allows the government to define any and all crimes including thought crime as violent radicalization and homegrown terrorism. Obviously, this legislation is unconstitutional on a number of levels and it is clear that all 404 representatives who voted in favor of this bill are traitors and should be removed from office immediately. The treason spans both political parties and it shows us all that there is no difference between them. The bill will go on to the Senate and will likely be passed and signed into the law by George W. Bush. Considering that draconian legislation like the Patriot Act and the Military Commissions Act have already been passed, there seems little question that this one will get passed as well. This is more proof that our country has been completely sold out by a group of traitors at all levels of government.
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&lt;br/&gt;“With overwhelming bipartisan support, Rep. Jane Harman’s ‘Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act’ passed the House 404-6 late last month and now rests in Sen. Joe Lieberman’s Homeland Security Committee. Swift Senate passage appears certain,” write Ralph E. Shaffer and R. William Robinson for the Baltimore Sun. “Not since the ‘Patriot Act’ of 2001 has any bill so threatened our constitutionally guaranteed rights.”
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&lt;br/&gt;Harman’s “proposed commission is a menace through its power to hold hearings, take testimony and administer oaths, an authority granted to even individual members of the commission—little Joe McCarthys—who will tour the country to hold their own private hearings. An aura of authority will automatically accompany this congressionally authorized mandate to expose native terrorism.”
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&lt;br/&gt;Ms. Harman’s proposal includes an absurd attack on the Internet, criticizing it for providing Americans with “access to broad and constant streams of terrorist-related propaganda,” and legalizes an insidious infiltration of targeted organizations. The misnamed “Center of Excellence,” which would function after the commission is disbanded in 18 months, gives the semblance of intellectual research to what is otherwise the suppression of dissent.
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&lt;br/&gt;While its purpose is to prevent terrorism, the bill doesn’t criminalize any specific conduct or contain penalties. But the commission’s findings will be cited by those who see a terrorist under every bed and who will demand enactment of criminal penalties that further restrict free speech and other civil liberties. Action contrary to the commission’s findings will be interpreted as a sign of treason at worst or a lack of patriotism at the least.
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&lt;br/&gt;While Ms. Harman denies that her proposal creates “thought police,” it defines “homegrown terrorism” as “planned” or “threatened” use of force to coerce the government or the people in the promotion of “political or social objectives.” That means that no force need actually have occurred as long as the government charges that the individual or group thought about doing it.
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&lt;br/&gt;As Shaffer and Robinson note, examples of “resulting crackdowns on such protests include the conviction and execution of anarchists tied to Chicago’s 1886 Haymarket Riot.” Additionally, we might add that the FBI’s COINTELPRO—targeting civil rights, antiwar, and national liberation movements—may serve as a template for “insidious infiltration of targeted organizations.” Although the official history would have us believe COINTELRPO was shut down in the 1970s, events since that time reveal the government is still in the business of illegally going after Americans who exercise their constitutional right to petition the government. For more on these recent events, see Brian Glick’s COINTELPRO Revisited: Spying and Disruption.
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&lt;br/&gt;Thus it makes perfect sense that the corporate media—compromised by the CIA under Operation Mockingbird beginning in the 1950s—would employ the likes of Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly to characterize the antiwar, truth and patriot movements—and even supporters of Ron Paul—as potentially violent advocates of “domestic terrorism.” No doubt, in the weeks and months ahead, we should expect more such propaganda as Harman’s “proposed commissions,” little more than federally mandated inquisitions, get up to speed.
&lt;br/&gt;Finally, as noted above, it is only a matter of time before the so-called Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007 becomes law. The bill has been referred to the Senate where it awaits scrutiny from the Committee on Homeland Security and Governmental Affairs and is almost certain to pass.
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/november2007/231107RAND.htm&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hello friends,
&lt;br/&gt;here you can listen to short interviews with some of the speakers at Bioneer's 2007(Marion, MA)
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.futureprimitive.org/Bioneers.html
&lt;br/&gt;I hope you enjoy
&lt;br/&gt;Warm regards
&lt;br/&gt;Joseluis&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Humancar on TV!</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Put your money where your mouth is!
&lt;br/&gt;Promote sustainability!
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&lt;br/&gt;Tonight on "Invention Nation" which will feature HumanCar airs 10:30 p.m. (pst) on the Science Channel. It will repeat at 11:30 a.m. Tuesday and at 3:30 p.m. Sunday!
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&lt;br/&gt; www.humancar.com.
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&lt;br/&gt; Check out this link to see some of our publicity:
&lt;br/&gt;http://www.bendbulletin.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071119/BIZ0102/711190360/1011&amp;amp;nav_category=
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&lt;br/&gt;Check out:http://www.greenteamtv.com, http://www.greenearthvision.com, http://agreenevolution.blogspot.com, http://www.seriousyurts.com, http://www.greenmatecafe.com 
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&lt;br/&gt;Don't forget to PRE-ORDER!&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;The Power of Community: How Cuba Survived Peak Oil
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&lt;br/&gt;In 1991 after the collapse of the Soviet Union, Cuba experienced an 'energy famine.' Transportation and agriculture virtually came to a stop due to lack of diesel fuel and fertilizer shortages. This film explores what changes were put in place. The makers of the film "The End Of Suburbia" went to Cuba to explore it as a test case for what the conditions after Peak Oil would look like. This is that story. 
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&lt;br/&gt;This documentary takes you through various aspects of life in Cuba - Economy, transportation, health-care, agriculture, education - and explores how they dealt with the dramatic reduction of fossil fuels to a mere fraction of their pre 1990 levels. It was nice to meet the people, see the sights, and hear the sounds. The overall feeling was that the Cubans had improved the quality of their life (after a difficult "Special Period"). Their health was better, greater sense of community, better food and healthier land. I was left with the question: Why should we wait until we run out of oil? Let's do it now. The part that I did not expect was how it challenged my understanding of the difference between a Communist country and Capitalism. Did you know that a greater percentage of Cubans own their own home than in America? More farmers now own their own land? Sort of turns the notion of what a "Free-Market" is on its head!
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&lt;br/&gt; http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=4981871524314644822&amp;amp;q=peak+oil+cuba&amp;amp;total=18&amp;amp;start=0&amp;amp;num=10&amp;amp;so=0&amp;amp;type=search&amp;amp;plindex=1&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Intentional Community looking for people</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Hi,
&lt;br/&gt;One of my tribes is Ecovillage check it out sometime.  I'm part of www.greenearthvision.com  and we're starting an intentional community in the Powell Butte area.  It's located in Central Oregon about 15 minutes outside of Bend.  If your interested in getting involved and want to check out Central Oregon give me a holler.
&lt;br/&gt;Thanks,
&lt;br/&gt;Forest&lt;/div&gt;
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;I just read this inspirational little article by Paul Hawken and thought I would pass it along to you all...
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&lt;br/&gt;To Remake the World
&lt;br/&gt;Something Earth-changing is afoot among civil society
&lt;br/&gt;by Paul Hawken
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&lt;br/&gt;I HAVE GIVEN NEARLY ONE THOUSAND TALKS ABOUT the environment in the past fifteen years, and after every speech a smaller crowd gathered to talk, ask questions, and exchange business cards. The people offering their cards were working on the most salient issues of our day: climate change, poverty, deforestation, peace, water, hunger, conservation, human rights, and more. They were from the nonprofit and nongovernmental world, also known as civil society. They looked after rivers and bays, educated consumers about sustainable agriculture, retrofitted houses with solar panels, lobbied state legislatures about pollution, fought against corporate-weighted trade policies, worked to green inner cities, or taught children about the environment. Quite simply, they were trying to safeguard nature and ensure justice. 
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&lt;br/&gt;After being on the road for a week or two, I would return with a couple hundred cards stuffed into various pockets. I would lay them out on the table in my kitchen, read the names, look at the logos, envisage the missions, and marvel at what groups do on behalf of others. Later, I would put them into drawers or paper bags, keepsakes of the journey. I couldn’t throw them away. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Over the years the cards mounted into the thousands, and whenever I glanced at the bags in my closet, I kept coming back to one question: did anyone know how many groups there were? At first, this was a matter of curiosity, but it slowly grew into a hunch that something larger was afoot, a significant social movement that was eluding the radar of mainstream culture. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I began to count. I looked at government records for different countries and, using various methods to approximate the number of environmental and social justice groups from tax census data, I initially estimated that there were thirty thousand environmental organizations strung around the globe; when I added social justice and indigenous organizations, the number exceeded one hundred thousand. I then researched past social movements to see if there were any equal in scale and scope, but I couldn’t find anything. The more I probed, the more I unearthed, and the numbers continued to climb. In trying to pick up a stone, I found the exposed tip of a geological formation. I discovered lists, indexes, and small databases specific to certain sectors or geographic areas, but no set of data came close to describing the movement’s breadth. Extrapolating from the records being accessed, I realized that the initial estimate of a hundred thousand organizations was off by at least a factor of ten. I now believe there are over one million organizations working toward ecological sustainability and social justice. Maybe two. 
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&lt;br/&gt;By conventional definition, this is not a movement. Movements have leaders and ideologies. You join movements, study tracts, and identify yourself with a group. You read the biography of the founder(s) or listen to them perorate on tape or in person. Movements have followers, but this movement doesn’t work that way. It is dispersed, inchoate, and fiercely independent. There is no manifesto or doctrine, no authority to check with. 
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&lt;br/&gt;I sought a name for it, but there isn’t one. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Historically, social movements have arisen primarily because of injustice, inequalities, and corruption. Those woes remain legion, but a new condition exists that has no precedent: the planet has a life-threatening disease that is marked by massive ecological degradation and rapid climate change. It crossed my mind that perhaps I was seeing something organic, if not biologic. Rather than a movement in the conventional sense, is it a collective response to threat? Is it splintered for reasons that are innate to its purpose? Or is it simply disorganized? More questions followed. How does it function? How fast is it growing? How is it connected? Why is it largely ignored? 
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&lt;br/&gt;After spending years researching this phenomenon, including creating with my colleagues a global database of these organizations, I have come to these conclusions: this is the largest social movement in all of history, no one knows its scope, and how it functions is more mysterious than what meets the eye. 
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&lt;br/&gt;What does meet the eye is compelling: tens of millions of ordinary and not-so-ordinary people willing to confront despair, power, and incalculable odds in order to restore some semblance of grace, justice, and beauty to this world. 
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&lt;br/&gt;CLAYTON THOMAS-MÜLLER SPEAKS to a community gathering of the Cree nation about waste sites on their native land in Northern Alberta, toxic lakes so big you can see them from outer space. Shi Lihong, founder of Wild China Films, makes documentaries with her husband on migrants displaced by construction of large dams. Rosalina Tuyuc Velásquez, a member of the Maya-Kaqchikel people, fights for full accountability for tens of thousands of people killed by death squads in Guatemala. Rodrigo Baggio retrieves discarded computers from New York, London, and Toronto and installs them in the favelas of Brazil, where he and his staff teach computer skills to poor children. Biologist Janine Benyus speaks to twelve hundred executives at a business forum in Queensland about biologically inspired industrial development. Paul Sykes, a volunteer for the National Audubon Society, completes his fifty-second Christmas Bird Count in Little Creek, Virginia, joining fifty thousand other people who tally 70 million birds on one day. Sumita Dasgupta leads students, engineers, journalists, farmers, and Adivasis (tribal people) on a ten-day trek through Gujarat exploring the rebirth of ancient rainwater harvesting and catchment systems that bring life back to drought-prone areas of India. Silas Kpanan’Ayoung Siakor, who exposed links between the genocidal policies of former president Charles Taylor and illegal logging in Liberia, now creates certified, sustainable timber policies. 
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&lt;br/&gt;These eight, who may never meet and know one another, are part of a coalescence comprising hundreds of thousands of organizations with no center, codified beliefs, or charismatic leader. The movement grows and spreads in every city and country. Virtually every tribe, culture, language, and religion is part of it, from Mongolians to Uzbeks to Tamils. It is comprised of families in India, students in Australia, farmers in France, the landless in Brazil, the bananeras of Honduras, the “poors” of Durban, villagers in Irian Jaya, indigenous tribes of Bolivia, and housewives in Japan. Its leaders are farmers, zoologists, shoemakers, and poets. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The movement can’t be divided because it is atomized—small pieces loosely joined. It forms, gathers, and dissipates quickly. Many inside and out dismiss it as powerless, but it has been known to bring down governments, companies, and leaders through witnessing, informing, and massing. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The movement has three basic roots: the environmental and social justice movements, and indigenous cultures’ resistance to globalization—all of which are intertwining. It arises spontaneously from different economic sectors, cultures, regions, and cohorts, resulting in a global, classless, diverse, and embedded movement, spreading worldwide without exception. In a world grown too complex for constrictive ideologies, the very word movement may be too small, for it is the largest coming together of citizens in history. 
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&lt;br/&gt;There are research institutes, community development agencies, village- and citizen-based organizations, corporations, networks, faith-based groups, trusts, and foundations. They defend against corrupt politics and climate change, corporate predation and the death of the oceans, governmental indifference and pandemic poverty, industrial forestry and farming, depletion of soil and water. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Describing the breadth of the movement is like trying to hold the ocean in your hand. It is that large. When a part rises above the waterline, the iceberg beneath usually remains unseen. When Wangari Maathai won the Nobel Peace Prize, the wire service stories didn’t mention the network of six thousand different women’s groups in Africa planting trees. When we hear about a chemical spill in a river, it is never mentioned that more than four thousand organizations in North America have adopted a river, creek, or stream. We read that organic agriculture is the fastest-growing sector of farming in America, Japan, Mexico, and Europe, but no connection is made to the more than three thousand organizations that educate farmers, customers, and legislators about sustainable agriculture. 
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&lt;br/&gt;This is the first time in history that a large social movement is not bound together by an “ism.” What binds it together is ideas, not ideologies. This unnamed movement’s big contribution is the absence of one big idea; in its stead it offers thousands of practical and useful ideas. In place of isms are processes, concerns, and compassion. The movement demonstrates a pliable, resonant, and generous side of humanity. 
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&lt;br/&gt;And it is impossible to pin down. Generalities are largely inaccurate. It is nonviolent, and grassroots; it has no bombs, armies, or helicopters. A charismatic male vertebrate is not in charge. The movement does not agree on everything nor will it ever, because that would be an ideology. But it shares a basic set of fundamental understandings about the Earth, how it functions, and the necessity of fairness and equity for all people partaking of the planet’s life-giving systems. 
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&lt;br/&gt;The promise of this unnamed movement is to offer solutions to what appear to be insoluble dilemmas: poverty, global climate change, terrorism, ecological degradation, polarization of income, loss of culture. It is not burdened with a syndrome of trying to save the world; it is trying to remake the world. 
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&lt;br/&gt;THERE IS FIERCENESS HERE. There is no other explanation for the raw courage and heart seen over and again in the people who march, speak, create, resist, and build. It is the fierceness of what it means to know we are human and want to survive. 
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&lt;br/&gt;This movement is relentless and unafraid. It cannot be mollified, pacified, or suppressed. There can be no Berlin Wall moment, no treaty-signing, no morning to awaken when the superpowers agree to stand down. The movement will continue to take myriad forms. It will not rest. There will be no Marx, Alexander, or Kennedy. No book can explain it, no person can represent it, no words can encompass it, because the movement is the breathing, sentient testament of the living world. 
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&lt;br/&gt;And I believe it will prevail. I don’t mean defeat, conquer, or cause harm to someone else. And I don’t tender the claim in an oracular sense. I mean the thinking that informs the movement’s goal—to create a just society conducive to life on Earth—will reign. It will soon suffuse and permeate most institutions. But before then, it will change a sufficient number of people so as to begin the reversal of centuries of frenzied self-destruction. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Inspiration is not garnered from litanies of what is flawed; it resides in humanity’s willingness to restore, redress, reform, recover, reimagine, and reconsider. Healing the wounds of the Earth and its people does not require saintliness or a political party. It is not a liberal or conservative activity. It is a sacred act.  
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&lt;br/&gt;http://www.orionmagazine.org/index.php/articles/article/265&lt;/div&gt;
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      <title>Permaculture Credit Union</title>
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Permaculture Credit Union: http://pcuonline.org/index.html
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&lt;br/&gt;want to know why credit unions are so much better than banks?: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-9050474362583451279
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&lt;br/&gt;want to know more about permaculture?: http://www.permaculture.org/nm/index.php/site/index/&lt;/div&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;Well, I have pulled myself out of the Hawaiian rain forest once again. With months of computer time ahead of me as I write my second book, I decided to finally start a gr
&lt;br/&gt;oup focused on the Eco-Ark Project. Its multiple purposes include raising awareness of the Eco-ark being built in the Puna Rain Forest, encouraging others to start similar projects in their own area, sharing ideas and methodologies for accomplishing these goals, spreading ideas concerning sustainable, Eco-friendly technologies and off grid community living. Spreading knowledge of organic permaculture techniques, to encourage the building of community gardens and the growing of food in publicly accessible places (Green Ribbon Project). And helping each other to restoring this planet to its divinely intended Edenic state before it is too late.
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&lt;br/&gt;This group will also act as a central meeting place for individuals wishing to join in the continued building of the ark on Hawaii Island next summer. 
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&lt;br/&gt;Check out http://tribes.tribe.net/ecoark? to reach Builders of the Arks!  Poke around and see if it sounds like a group you would be interested in participating in. We would enjoy input from all positive, creative souls in resurrecting the balance between humanity and our planet. Aloha!
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      <description>&lt;div&gt;Triple Global Crises
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&lt;br/&gt;From Empire to Earth Community: Author David Korten on "The Great
&lt;br/&gt;Turning"
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&lt;br/&gt;The International Forum on Globalization and Institute for Policy
&lt;br/&gt;Studies is hosting a three day teach-in this weekend
&lt;br/&gt;titled "Confronting the Global Triple Crisis: Climate Change, Peak
&lt;br/&gt;Oil (The End of Cheap Energy) and Global Resource Depletion &amp;amp;
&lt;br/&gt;Extinction." We speak with, among others, David Korten - publisher of
&lt;br/&gt;the magazine YES! A Journal of Positive Futures and author of "The
&lt;br/&gt;Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community." [includes rush
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&lt;br/&gt;A new study from the nation's preeminent scientific advisory group
&lt;br/&gt;has revealed that less than two percent of the money spent by the
&lt;br/&gt;federal government on climate change research is used to study how
&lt;br/&gt;climate change will affect humans.
&lt;br/&gt;According to the report issued by the National Academies, the U.S.
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change Research Program spends just $30 million dollar a year
&lt;br/&gt;on examining the impact of global warming on humans. To put that
&lt;br/&gt;figure in perspective, the United States is spending an estimated
&lt;br/&gt;$275 million per day on the Iraq war and occupation.
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&lt;br/&gt;Spending cuts have also resulted in the grounding of earth-observing
&lt;br/&gt;satellites. The authors of the report state QUOTE "The loss of
&lt;br/&gt;existing and planned satellite sensors is perhaps the single greatest
&lt;br/&gt;threat to the future success" of climate research.
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&lt;br/&gt;This weekend, the International Forum on Globalization and Institute
&lt;br/&gt;for Policy Studies is hosting a three day teach-in
&lt;br/&gt;titled "Confronting the Global Triple Crisis: Climate Change, Peak
&lt;br/&gt;Oil (The End of Cheap Energy) and Global Resource Depletion &amp;amp;
&lt;br/&gt;Extinction."
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&lt;br/&gt;We speak with four guests from the forum. We begin with David Korten:
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&lt;br/&gt;David Korten, author of "When Corporations Rule the World". He is the
&lt;br/&gt;co-founder of Positive Futures Network, and publisher of the magazine
&lt;br/&gt;YES! A Journal of Positive Futures. His most recent book is
&lt;br/&gt;titled "The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community."
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&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: A new study from the nation's preeminent scientific
&lt;br/&gt;advisory group has revealed that less than 2% of the money spent by
&lt;br/&gt;the federal government on climate change research is used to study
&lt;br/&gt;how climate change will affect humans.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;According to the report issued by the National Academies, the U.S.
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change Research Program spends just $30 million a year on
&lt;br/&gt;examining the impact of global warming on humans. To put that figure
&lt;br/&gt;in perspective, the United States is spending an estimated $275
&lt;br/&gt;million per day on the Iraq war and occupation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Spending cuts have also resulted in the grounding of earth-observing
&lt;br/&gt;satellites. The authors of the report state, "The loss of existing
&lt;br/&gt;and planned satellite sensors is perhaps the single greatest threat
&lt;br/&gt;to the future success" of climate research.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: This weekend, the International Forum on Globalization
&lt;br/&gt;and Institute for Policy Studies is hosting a three day teach-in
&lt;br/&gt;titled "Confronting the Global Triple Crisis: Climate Change, Peak
&lt;br/&gt;Oil (The End of Cheap Energy) and Global Resource Depletion &amp;amp;
&lt;br/&gt;Extinction."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Today, we're joined by four of the guests in that forum. We begin
&lt;br/&gt;with Vandana Shiva and David Korten.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Vandana Shiva, world-renowned environmental leader and thinker,
&lt;br/&gt;director of the Research Foundation on Science, Technology, and
&lt;br/&gt;Ecology, and the founder of Navdanya, "nine seeds," a movement
&lt;br/&gt;promoting diversity and use of native seeds. Dr. Shiva was the 1993
&lt;br/&gt;recipient of the Alternative Nobel Peace Prize, the Right Livelihood
&lt;br/&gt;Award. She's the author of many books, her latest, Earth Democracy:
&lt;br/&gt;Justice, Sustainability, and Peace.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;David Korten, also with us, author of When Corporations Rule the
&lt;br/&gt;World, cofounder of Positive Futures Network and publisher of the
&lt;br/&gt;magazine YES! A Journal of Positive Futures. His most recent book is
&lt;br/&gt;called The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We welcome you both to Democracy Now! David Korten, let's begin with
&lt;br/&gt;you. The Great Turning, explain.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;DAVID KORTEN: Well, essentially, this gets to the basic theme of the
&lt;br/&gt;conference, that we humans have come up at a defining moment in our
&lt;br/&gt;experience, in which we're confronting the limits of the ecosystem at
&lt;br/&gt;a time when we are in a condition of extreme inequality between the
&lt;br/&gt;rich and the poor, and we're dependent on an economic infrastructure
&lt;br/&gt;that, in turn, depends on the assumption of everlasting cheap oil.
&lt;br/&gt;Now, we've essentially come up to the limits.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;What my book, The Great Turning, does is puts it into our current
&lt;br/&gt;situation to the deeper context of 5,000 years of human experience,
&lt;br/&gt;organizing ourselves, both our relations among nations and among --
&lt;br/&gt;all the way down to among family members, based on dominator
&lt;br/&gt;hierarchy. And what this -- the underlying pattern of societies, with
&lt;br/&gt;a few people on the top, many people on the bottom, and the majority
&lt;br/&gt;of the society's resources being expropriated by the ruling elites in
&lt;br/&gt;order to maintain a system of domination. And we have played that out
&lt;br/&gt;for 5,000 years, empire through empire, each one falling in turn, is
&lt;br/&gt;it, through internal corruption and the devastation of its resource
&lt;br/&gt;base. And now we're encountering that on a global scale.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And what -- the key point of this conference is that we are facing a
&lt;br/&gt;monumental decision point in human experience in which we have to
&lt;br/&gt;actively choose our future. And virtually none of the options on the
&lt;br/&gt;table being discussed deal, in any adequate way, with the depth of
&lt;br/&gt;the problem, and many of them are actually ultimately
&lt;br/&gt;counterproductive. What the establishment is doing is looking for
&lt;br/&gt;solutions that will maintain the system of power, but not necessarily
&lt;br/&gt;deal with the fact that we have to address in fundamental ways our
&lt;br/&gt;human relationship to earth and to the life support system of earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And in an already overpopulated world, we absolutely have to deal
&lt;br/&gt;with the issues of equity and redistribution of not only income, but
&lt;br/&gt;ownership, control and access to resources, so that everyone has a
&lt;br/&gt;secure means of living. We also, of course, have to be fundamentally
&lt;br/&gt;reconstructing our infrastructure to create an infrastructure that is
&lt;br/&gt;consistent with living and balance with the earth, localizing our
&lt;br/&gt;economies, bringing an end to war and violence and the massive misuse
&lt;br/&gt;of resources to support military establishment.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So what this conference is doing, which is also what my book The
&lt;br/&gt;Great Turning does, is bring all of these various crises that we're
&lt;br/&gt;facing as a species into a common framework that helps us see the
&lt;br/&gt;depth of the solutions and the very dramatic nature of the solutions
&lt;br/&gt;turning from systems of domination to systems of partnership and
&lt;br/&gt;reestablishing a sense of human community and of living communities
&lt;br/&gt;that bring us humans into balance with earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: David Korten, in the United States we're confronted
&lt;br/&gt;here with a mass media system now where the oil companies and the
&lt;br/&gt;chemical companies are actually the ones advertising their changes
&lt;br/&gt;now, in terms of dealing with global warming. It's an enormous
&lt;br/&gt;hypocrisy that the very companies that are involved in the worst
&lt;br/&gt;aspects of what is happening to the world are now the ones that are
&lt;br/&gt;promoting in their advertisements a consciousness about it.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;You talk about the prosperity narrative and how the prosperity
&lt;br/&gt;narrative distorts the reality of what's happening with global
&lt;br/&gt;warming. Could you talk about that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;DAVID KORTEN: Yes. Part of breaking out of this, breaking out of what
&lt;br/&gt;I call the cultural trance of empire, is to recognize the stories,
&lt;br/&gt;essentially the lies, that the system feeds us to keep us locked into
&lt;br/&gt;this trance. And the key in the empire prosperity story is the idea
&lt;br/&gt;that money is wealth, that economic growth is the key to prosperity,
&lt;br/&gt;that when people are making money, they are creating wealth, and the
&lt;br/&gt;idea that inequality is essential to growth because the rich people
&lt;br/&gt;have the money to invest, and so we should honor rich people, we
&lt;br/&gt;should welcome inequality, because in the end it makes us all better
&lt;br/&gt;off. Now, we're seeing that play out, of course, in the corporations
&lt;br/&gt;now, you know: we're benevolent, and so forth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the thing that -- you know, I spent thirty years of my life
&lt;br/&gt;working on third world development, on the effort to end poverty in
&lt;br/&gt;low-income countries. And it took me a long time, but I finally came
&lt;br/&gt;to realize that mostly what economic growth is about is rich people
&lt;br/&gt;expropriating the resources of poor people to turn them into the
&lt;br/&gt;garbage of the consumer system in an accelerating rate in order to
&lt;br/&gt;make money, which increases the power of people who -- for people who
&lt;br/&gt;already have more than they need.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Now, what we need to come to recognize is that real prosperity is
&lt;br/&gt;grounded in the health of our children, our families, our communities
&lt;br/&gt;and nature, and that a real economic system promoting real prosperity
&lt;br/&gt;is one that is serving the health of children, families, community
&lt;br/&gt;and the environment. And it absolutely requires a substantial degree
&lt;br/&gt;of equity and sharing of resources to assure that everyone's needs
&lt;br/&gt;are met. And you begin to see the -- you know, the stories
&lt;br/&gt;fundamentally contrast, and they lead to totally different kinds of
&lt;br/&gt;outcomes, in terms of how we allocate resources and even how we think
&lt;br/&gt;about what it means to be human at our most foundational values.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Vandana Shiva, talk about how this plays out on the
&lt;br/&gt;ground in places like, well, your home country, India.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;VANDANA SHIVA: Well, the triple crisis is really seriously converging
&lt;br/&gt;on India, India being one of the preferred spots for outsourcing of
&lt;br/&gt;all the pollution and energy-intensive production of the world. We
&lt;br/&gt;hear of outsourcing of jobs in the information technology sector. We
&lt;br/&gt;don't often enough hear about the outsourcing of pollution to the
&lt;br/&gt;third world, the resource-intensive, resource-hungry industry like
&lt;br/&gt;steel and iron and aluminum and automobile manufacture. India now is
&lt;br/&gt;going to be the home of making cheap cars for the rest of the world.
&lt;br/&gt;But every car then requires land, which is grabbed from tribals,
&lt;br/&gt;peasants. It requires aluminum and steel, which needs to be mined. It
&lt;br/&gt;requires coal, which needs to be mined.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And just as when the first colonization took place, it was assumed
&lt;br/&gt;that the earth was empty, terra nullius, no matter how many
&lt;br/&gt;indigenous people existed. India, a land of 1.2 billion people, is
&lt;br/&gt;being treated as an empty land for global capital, making 80% of
&lt;br/&gt;India redundant.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But people are fighting back. And place after place, in Dadri, in
&lt;br/&gt;Nandigram, in Singur, people are just getting together in a new earth
&lt;br/&gt;democracy and saying, "This land is our land. We will decide what we
&lt;br/&gt;do with it. You cannot force a polluting industry on us.
&lt;br/&gt;Globalization cannot force it." And we are really seeing a whole new
&lt;br/&gt;political practice emerge.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;India is engaged in this debate also centrally in another way that
&lt;br/&gt;brings the resource question: the alternative -- fuel alternatives to
&lt;br/&gt;global warming, as well as the new militarization, on a global scale
&lt;br/&gt;together. The three, four options being offered to contain emissions
&lt;br/&gt;are biofuels, which, in fact, will increase emissions; carbon and
&lt;br/&gt;emissions trading, which is reversing the "polluter pays" principle
&lt;br/&gt;and is making the society pay the polluter, rewarding them with
&lt;br/&gt;credits. Most of these credits are then being given to polluting
&lt;br/&gt;industry: HFC companies, sponge iron plants, cutting down forests and
&lt;br/&gt;then planting palm oil. These are becoming clean development
&lt;br/&gt;mechanisms, which are really dirty.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the dirtiest of all, dirtiest of all the new clean options is
&lt;br/&gt;nuclear. The US-India nuclear agreement is being offered as a clean
&lt;br/&gt;energy option, as a solution to climate change. But it is, in effect,
&lt;br/&gt;an instrument of permanent war. In the Hyde Act, which overrides the
&lt;br/&gt;India-US agreement, Iran has been mentioned fifteen times. An
&lt;br/&gt;agreement between India and the US mentions a third country fifteen
&lt;br/&gt;times. This is about a new security policy, a new security policy in
&lt;br/&gt;which a militarized empire seeks the last resources of the poorest
&lt;br/&gt;person and wants to use the worst form of violence to appropriate the
&lt;br/&gt;resources that people need for living.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And across the world, people are saying, "No. We want peace. We want
&lt;br/&gt;democracy. We want sustainability. We will live in a different way."
&lt;br/&gt;And those alternatives are growing. Our work, in Navdanya, we are
&lt;br/&gt;saving seeds that can tolerate the salt after cyclones, seeds that
&lt;br/&gt;can survive the floods, in which we have lost 2,000 people in India
&lt;br/&gt;this particular extreme monsoon. And around the world people are
&lt;br/&gt;creating alternatives, so we really have these two trends right now:
&lt;br/&gt;one, a declining trend, but very visible trend because it's so
&lt;br/&gt;violent, and violent is always visible; and the other, a peaceful
&lt;br/&gt;trend and nonviolent trend, quiet, but much more pervasive.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: Vandana Shiva, you've been a spokesperson for years
&lt;br/&gt;over the impact on the world's agriculture, of this corporate
&lt;br/&gt;dominance. A new battleground has developed recently in Burma with
&lt;br/&gt;Bayer and Bayer's efforts, the German giant, in terms of rice. Could
&lt;br/&gt;you talk about that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;VANDANA SHIVA: Yeah, but it's not just the German giant in Burma.
&lt;br/&gt;It's the American giant, Monsanto, literally killing Indian farmers.
&lt;br/&gt;Since 1997, I've been doing studies in every area where farmer
&lt;br/&gt;suicides have happened. These happen to be the cotton belt, the
&lt;br/&gt;cotton areas where Monsanto has now gained total monopoly. The Bt
&lt;br/&gt;cotton seeds that Monsanto is selling have pushed farmers to the
&lt;br/&gt;edge, because of the high prices, because of the high levels of
&lt;br/&gt;failure and the high requirements, exactly like the rice of Bayer for
&lt;br/&gt;Burma will be.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As the corporations that came out of warfare gained control over the
&lt;br/&gt;chemical industry for warfare, they became agrichemical giants,
&lt;br/&gt;because they deployed chemicals used for war into agriculture. Over
&lt;br/&gt;time, they bought up the seed industry. Over time, they bought up the
&lt;br/&gt;biotech industry. And, of course, these guys are the same people who
&lt;br/&gt;sell us the medicine in pharmaceuticals. So what we've got, a
&lt;br/&gt;convergence of death. We've got a convergence of destruction.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And in India, we are witnessing this destruction from the seed end
&lt;br/&gt;through Monsanto's monopolies on seed, and that is why I have been
&lt;br/&gt;working with Indian farmers, both to save our native seeds and save
&lt;br/&gt;our freedom, and do the seed Satyagraha, like Gandhi a hundred years
&lt;br/&gt;ago in South Africa -- and we're remembering Steve Biko today -- when
&lt;br/&gt;Gandhi started the Satyagraha, the non-cooperation with an unjust
&lt;br/&gt;brutal regime. But the global economy has become an unjust brutal
&lt;br/&gt;regime. And everywhere -- we are defending the Yamana, because they
&lt;br/&gt;want to even use the land where the rivers flow for real estate. I
&lt;br/&gt;don't know why land becomes real estate when it moves into the hands
&lt;br/&gt;of the rich, and it's treated as nobody's land, no man's land, when
&lt;br/&gt;it's generating survival for the poor. So India is definitely at the
&lt;br/&gt;heart of the new debate about the real democracy.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Vandana Shiva and David Korten, I want to thank you for
&lt;br/&gt;being with us. Vandana Shiva's latest book is Earth Democracy:
&lt;br/&gt;Justice, Sustainability, and Peace. David Korten's latest book is
&lt;br/&gt;called The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community. They're
&lt;br/&gt;both part of the International Forum on Globalization that is holding
&lt;br/&gt;a conference this weekend in Washington, D.C. at George Washington
&lt;br/&gt;University at the Lisner Auditorium.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When we come back, we'll be joined from two others who are
&lt;br/&gt;participating: the author and professor Michael Klare and the British
&lt;br/&gt;climate change activist Simon Retallack.
&lt;br/&gt;
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&lt;br/&gt;We speak world-renowned environmental leader and thinker, Vandana
&lt;br/&gt;Shiva about India and global resource depletion. Shiva says, "India
&lt;br/&gt;is one of the preferred spots for outsourcing of all the pollution
&lt;br/&gt;and energy-intensive production of the world. We hear of outsourcing
&lt;br/&gt;of jobs and informational technology sector. We don't often enough
&lt;br/&gt;hear about the outsourcing of pollution to the third world."
&lt;br/&gt;[includes rush transcript]
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&lt;br/&gt;Vandana Shiva, world-renowned environmental leader and thinker. She
&lt;br/&gt;is also a physicist and ecologist and the Director of the Research
&lt;br/&gt;Foundation on Science, Technology, and Ecology. She is the founder of
&lt;br/&gt;Navdanya -"nine seeds", a movement promoting diversity and use of
&lt;br/&gt;native seeds. Dr. Shiva was the 1993 recipient of the Alternative
&lt;br/&gt;Nobel Peace Prize -the Right Livelihood Award. And she is the author
&lt;br/&gt;of many books, her latest is "Earth Democracy: Justice,
&lt;br/&gt;Sustainability, and Peace."
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&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: A new study from the nation's preeminent scientific
&lt;br/&gt;advisory group has revealed that less than 2% of the money spent by
&lt;br/&gt;the federal government on climate change research is used to study
&lt;br/&gt;how climate change will affect humans.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;According to the report issued by the National Academies, the U.S.
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change Research Program spends just $30 million a year on
&lt;br/&gt;examining the impact of global warming on humans. To put that figure
&lt;br/&gt;in perspective, the United States is spending an estimated $275
&lt;br/&gt;million per day on the Iraq war and occupation.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Spending cuts have also resulted in the grounding of earth-observing
&lt;br/&gt;satellites. The authors of the report state, "The loss of existing
&lt;br/&gt;and planned satellite sensors is perhaps the single greatest threat
&lt;br/&gt;to the future success" of climate research.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: This weekend, the International Forum on Globalization
&lt;br/&gt;and Institute for Policy Studies is hosting a three day teach-in
&lt;br/&gt;titled "Confronting the Global Triple Crisis: Climate Change, Peak
&lt;br/&gt;Oil (The End of Cheap Energy) and Global Resource Depletion &amp;amp;
&lt;br/&gt;Extinction."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Today, we're joined by four of the guests in that forum. We begin
&lt;br/&gt;with Vandana Shiva and David Korten.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Vandana Shiva, world-renowned environmental leader and thinker,
&lt;br/&gt;director of the Research Foundation on Science, Technology, and
&lt;br/&gt;Ecology, and the founder of Navdanya, "nine seeds," a movement
&lt;br/&gt;promoting diversity and use of native seeds. Dr. Shiva was the 1993
&lt;br/&gt;recipient of the Alternative Nobel Peace Prize, the Right Livelihood
&lt;br/&gt;Award. She's the author of many books, her latest, Earth Democracy:
&lt;br/&gt;Justice, Sustainability, and Peace.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;David Korten, also with us, author of When Corporations Rule the
&lt;br/&gt;World, cofounder of Positive Futures Network and publisher of the
&lt;br/&gt;magazine YES! A Journal of Positive Futures. His most recent book is
&lt;br/&gt;called The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We welcome you both to Democracy Now! David Korten, let's begin with
&lt;br/&gt;you. The Great Turning, explain.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;DAVID KORTEN: Well, essentially, this gets to the basic theme of the
&lt;br/&gt;conference, that we humans have come up at a defining moment in our
&lt;br/&gt;experience, in which we're confronting the limits of the ecosystem at
&lt;br/&gt;a time when we are in a condition of extreme inequality between the
&lt;br/&gt;rich and the poor, and we're dependent on an economic infrastructure
&lt;br/&gt;that, in turn, depends on the assumption of everlasting cheap oil.
&lt;br/&gt;Now, we've essentially come up to the limits.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;What my book, The Great Turning, does is puts it into our current
&lt;br/&gt;situation to the deeper context of 5,000 years of human experience,
&lt;br/&gt;organizing ourselves, both our relations among nations and among --
&lt;br/&gt;all the way down to among family members, based on dominator
&lt;br/&gt;hierarchy. And what this -- the underlying pattern of societies, with
&lt;br/&gt;a few people on the top, many people on the bottom, and the majority
&lt;br/&gt;of the society's resources being expropriated by the ruling elites in
&lt;br/&gt;order to maintain a system of domination. And we have played that out
&lt;br/&gt;for 5,000 years, empire through empire, each one falling in turn, is
&lt;br/&gt;it, through internal corruption and the devastation of its resource
&lt;br/&gt;base. And now we're encountering that on a global scale.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And what -- the key point of this conference is that we are facing a
&lt;br/&gt;monumental decision point in human experience in which we have to
&lt;br/&gt;actively choose our future. And virtually none of the options on the
&lt;br/&gt;table being discussed deal, in any adequate way, with the depth of
&lt;br/&gt;the problem, and many of them are actually ultimately
&lt;br/&gt;counterproductive. What the establishment is doing is looking for
&lt;br/&gt;solutions that will maintain the system of power, but not necessarily
&lt;br/&gt;deal with the fact that we have to address in fundamental ways our
&lt;br/&gt;human relationship to earth and to the life support system of earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And in an already overpopulated world, we absolutely have to deal
&lt;br/&gt;with the issues of equity and redistribution of not only income, but
&lt;br/&gt;ownership, control and access to resources, so that everyone has a
&lt;br/&gt;secure means of living. We also, of course, have to be fundamentally
&lt;br/&gt;reconstructing our infrastructure to create an infrastructure that is
&lt;br/&gt;consistent with living and balance with the earth, localizing our
&lt;br/&gt;economies, bringing an end to war and violence and the massive misuse
&lt;br/&gt;of resources to support military establishment.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So what this conference is doing, which is also what my book The
&lt;br/&gt;Great Turning does, is bring all of these various crises that we're
&lt;br/&gt;facing as a species into a common framework that helps us see the
&lt;br/&gt;depth of the solutions and the very dramatic nature of the solutions
&lt;br/&gt;turning from systems of domination to systems of partnership and
&lt;br/&gt;reestablishing a sense of human community and of living communities
&lt;br/&gt;that bring us humans into balance with earth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: David Korten, in the United States we're confronted
&lt;br/&gt;here with a mass media system now where the oil companies and the
&lt;br/&gt;chemical companies are actually the ones advertising their changes
&lt;br/&gt;now, in terms of dealing with global warming. It's an enormous
&lt;br/&gt;hypocrisy that the very companies that are involved in the worst
&lt;br/&gt;aspects of what is happening to the world are now the ones that are
&lt;br/&gt;promoting in their advertisements a consciousness about it.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;You talk about the prosperity narrative and how the prosperity
&lt;br/&gt;narrative distorts the reality of what's happening with global
&lt;br/&gt;warming. Could you talk about that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;DAVID KORTEN: Yes. Part of breaking out of this, breaking out of what
&lt;br/&gt;I call the cultural trance of empire, is to recognize the stories,
&lt;br/&gt;essentially the lies, that the system feeds us to keep us locked into
&lt;br/&gt;this trance. And the key in the empire prosperity story is the idea
&lt;br/&gt;that money is wealth, that economic growth is the key to prosperity,
&lt;br/&gt;that when people are making money, they are creating wealth, and the
&lt;br/&gt;idea that inequality is essential to growth because the rich people
&lt;br/&gt;have the money to invest, and so we should honor rich people, we
&lt;br/&gt;should welcome inequality, because in the end it makes us all better
&lt;br/&gt;off. Now, we're seeing that play out, of course, in the corporations
&lt;br/&gt;now, you know: we're benevolent, and so forth.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the thing that -- you know, I spent thirty years of my life
&lt;br/&gt;working on third world development, on the effort to end poverty in
&lt;br/&gt;low-income countries. And it took me a long time, but I finally came
&lt;br/&gt;to realize that mostly what economic growth is about is rich people
&lt;br/&gt;expropriating the resources of poor people to turn them into the
&lt;br/&gt;garbage of the consumer system in an accelerating rate in order to
&lt;br/&gt;make money, which increases the power of people who -- for people who
&lt;br/&gt;already have more than they need.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;Now, what we need to come to recognize is that real prosperity is
&lt;br/&gt;grounded in the health of our children, our families, our communities
&lt;br/&gt;and nature, and that a real economic system promoting real prosperity
&lt;br/&gt;is one that is serving the health of children, families, community
&lt;br/&gt;and the environment. And it absolutely requires a substantial degree
&lt;br/&gt;of equity and sharing of resources to assure that everyone's needs
&lt;br/&gt;are met. And you begin to see the -- you know, the stories
&lt;br/&gt;fundamentally contrast, and they lead to totally different kinds of
&lt;br/&gt;outcomes, in terms of how we allocate resources and even how we think
&lt;br/&gt;about what it means to be human at our most foundational values.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Vandana Shiva, talk about how this plays out on the
&lt;br/&gt;ground in places like, well, your home country, India.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;VANDANA SHIVA: Well, the triple crisis is really seriously converging
&lt;br/&gt;on India, India being one of the preferred spots for outsourcing of
&lt;br/&gt;all the pollution and energy-intensive production of the world. We
&lt;br/&gt;hear of outsourcing of jobs in the information technology sector. We
&lt;br/&gt;don't often enough hear about the outsourcing of pollution to the
&lt;br/&gt;third world, the resource-intensive, resource-hungry industry like
&lt;br/&gt;steel and iron and aluminum and automobile manufacture. India now is
&lt;br/&gt;going to be the home of making cheap cars for the rest of the world.
&lt;br/&gt;But every car then requires land, which is grabbed from tribals,
&lt;br/&gt;peasants. It requires aluminum and steel, which needs to be mined. It
&lt;br/&gt;requires coal, which needs to be mined.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And just as when the first colonization took place, it was assumed
&lt;br/&gt;that the earth was empty, terra nullius, no matter how many
&lt;br/&gt;indigenous people existed. India, a land of 1.2 billion people, is
&lt;br/&gt;being treated as an empty land for global capital, making 80% of
&lt;br/&gt;India redundant.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But people are fighting back. And place after place, in Dadri, in
&lt;br/&gt;Nandigram, in Singur, people are just getting together in a new earth
&lt;br/&gt;democracy and saying, "This land is our land. We will decide what we
&lt;br/&gt;do with it. You cannot force a polluting industry on us.
&lt;br/&gt;Globalization cannot force it." And we are really seeing a whole new
&lt;br/&gt;political practice emerge.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;India is engaged in this debate also centrally in another way that
&lt;br/&gt;brings the resource question: the alternative -- fuel alternatives to
&lt;br/&gt;global warming, as well as the new militarization, on a global scale
&lt;br/&gt;together. The three, four options being offered to contain emissions
&lt;br/&gt;are biofuels, which, in fact, will increase emissions; carbon and
&lt;br/&gt;emissions trading, which is reversing the "polluter pays" principle
&lt;br/&gt;and is making the society pay the polluter, rewarding them with
&lt;br/&gt;credits. Most of these credits are then being given to polluting
&lt;br/&gt;industry: HFC companies, sponge iron plants, cutting down forests and
&lt;br/&gt;then planting palm oil. These are becoming clean development
&lt;br/&gt;mechanisms, which are really dirty.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But the dirtiest of all, dirtiest of all the new clean options is
&lt;br/&gt;nuclear. The US-India nuclear agreement is being offered as a clean
&lt;br/&gt;energy option, as a solution to climate change. But it is, in effect,
&lt;br/&gt;an instrument of permanent war. In the Hyde Act, which overrides the
&lt;br/&gt;India-US agreement, Iran has been mentioned fifteen times. An
&lt;br/&gt;agreement between India and the US mentions a third country fifteen
&lt;br/&gt;times. This is about a new security policy, a new security policy in
&lt;br/&gt;which a militarized empire seeks the last resources of the poorest
&lt;br/&gt;person and wants to use the worst form of violence to appropriate the
&lt;br/&gt;resources that people need for living.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And across the world, people are saying, "No. We want peace. We want
&lt;br/&gt;democracy. We want sustainability. We will live in a different way."
&lt;br/&gt;And those alternatives are growing. Our work, in Navdanya, we are
&lt;br/&gt;saving seeds that can tolerate the salt after cyclones, seeds that
&lt;br/&gt;can survive the floods, in which we have lost 2,000 people in India
&lt;br/&gt;this particular extreme monsoon. And around the world people are
&lt;br/&gt;creating alternatives, so we really have these two trends right now:
&lt;br/&gt;one, a declining trend, but very visible trend because it's so
&lt;br/&gt;violent, and violent is always visible; and the other, a peaceful
&lt;br/&gt;trend and nonviolent trend, quiet, but much more pervasive.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: Vandana Shiva, you've been a spokesperson for years
&lt;br/&gt;over the impact on the world's agriculture, of this corporate
&lt;br/&gt;dominance. A new battleground has developed recently in Burma with
&lt;br/&gt;Bayer and Bayer's efforts, the German giant, in terms of rice. Could
&lt;br/&gt;you talk about that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;VANDANA SHIVA: Yeah, but it's not just the German giant in Burma.
&lt;br/&gt;It's the American giant, Monsanto, literally killing Indian farmers.
&lt;br/&gt;Since 1997, I've been doing studies in every area where farmer
&lt;br/&gt;suicides have happened. These happen to be the cotton belt, the
&lt;br/&gt;cotton areas where Monsanto has now gained total monopoly. The Bt
&lt;br/&gt;cotton seeds that Monsanto is selling have pushed farmers to the
&lt;br/&gt;edge, because of the high prices, because of the high levels of
&lt;br/&gt;failure and the high requirements, exactly like the rice of Bayer for
&lt;br/&gt;Burma will be.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As the corporations that came out of warfare gained control over the
&lt;br/&gt;chemical industry for warfare, they became agrichemical giants,
&lt;br/&gt;because they deployed chemicals used for war into agriculture. Over
&lt;br/&gt;time, they bought up the seed industry. Over time, they bought up the
&lt;br/&gt;biotech industry. And, of course, these guys are the same people who
&lt;br/&gt;sell us the medicine in pharmaceuticals. So what we've got, a
&lt;br/&gt;convergence of death. We've got a convergence of destruction.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And in India, we are witnessing this destruction from the seed end
&lt;br/&gt;through Monsanto's monopolies on seed, and that is why I have been
&lt;br/&gt;working with Indian farmers, both to save our native seeds and save
&lt;br/&gt;our freedom, and do the seed Satyagraha, like Gandhi a hundred years
&lt;br/&gt;ago in South Africa -- and we're remembering Steve Biko today -- when
&lt;br/&gt;Gandhi started the Satyagraha, the non-cooperation with an unjust
&lt;br/&gt;brutal regime. But the global economy has become an unjust brutal
&lt;br/&gt;regime. And everywhere -- we are defending the Yamana, because they
&lt;br/&gt;want to even use the land where the rivers flow for real estate. I
&lt;br/&gt;don't know why land becomes real estate when it moves into the hands
&lt;br/&gt;of the rich, and it's treated as nobody's land, no man's land, when
&lt;br/&gt;it's generating survival for the poor. So India is definitely at the
&lt;br/&gt;heart of the new debate about the real democracy.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Vandana Shiva and David Korten, I want to thank you for
&lt;br/&gt;being with us. Vandana Shiva's latest book is Earth Democracy:
&lt;br/&gt;Justice, Sustainability, and Peace. David Korten's latest book is
&lt;br/&gt;called The Great Turning: From Empire to Earth Community. They're
&lt;br/&gt;both part of the International Forum on Globalization that is holding
&lt;br/&gt;a conference this weekend in Washington, D.C. at George Washington
&lt;br/&gt;University at the Lisner Auditorium.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;When we come back, we'll be joined from two others who are
&lt;br/&gt;participating: the author and professor Michael Klare and the British
&lt;br/&gt;climate change activist Simon Retallack.
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&lt;br/&gt;and Consequences of America's Growing Dependency on Imported
&lt;br/&gt;Petroleum." Klare says, "There's a second war underway in Iraq that's
&lt;br/&gt;a war for the control of the oil wealth. That's a war that is pitting
&lt;br/&gt;Kurds against the Arabs of the country, Shiites against Sunnis, and
&lt;br/&gt;Shiite against Shiite. Because eventually the Americans are going to
&lt;br/&gt;leave and the people of Iraq know this." [includes rush transcript]
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&lt;br/&gt;Michael Klare, Professor of Peace and World Security Studies at
&lt;br/&gt;Hampshire College. He is author of several books including "Blood and
&lt;br/&gt;Oil: The Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Dependency on
&lt;br/&gt;Imported Petroleum."
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&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Last week, tens of thousands of people attended Farm Aid
&lt;br/&gt;here in New York City. It's an annual concert to raise support for
&lt;br/&gt;family farmers. This is the musician Neil Young, one of the
&lt;br/&gt;organizers of Farm Aid.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;NEIL YOUNG: Transporting food around the world to other countries and
&lt;br/&gt;using all of that fuel and all of that packaging and all of that air-
&lt;br/&gt;conditioning fuel and all of those things that need to happen to get,
&lt;br/&gt;say, a tomato -- since that's on our mind today, we're coming with a
&lt;br/&gt;tomato now -- from Chile to California, it costs a lot of
&lt;br/&gt;environmental damage just getting that one tomato up there.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And so, if you look at the world and you figure one of the things
&lt;br/&gt;about our big agriculture is that we want to feed the world --
&lt;br/&gt;doesn't that sound great? You know? We're going to help everybody.
&lt;br/&gt;OK, you know, that's great. But I don't think it's really that way. I
&lt;br/&gt;think we ought to feed ourselves, the people that are close to us,
&lt;br/&gt;and we ought to let the people around the world feed themselves with
&lt;br/&gt;their own crops so that we don't go in there and take their food crop
&lt;br/&gt;away and give them a cash crop and then say we're going to give you
&lt;br/&gt;food. And that's what we do. We have people growing textile materials
&lt;br/&gt;and cotton and things in third world countries, and we do business
&lt;br/&gt;with them through China, and we do all of these things with our
&lt;br/&gt;economics. And we undermine the sustainability of the countries that
&lt;br/&gt;we say we're helping. And then, if these countries don't cooperate
&lt;br/&gt;with us, we control their food supply.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Musician Neil Young at the Farm Aid concert this past
&lt;br/&gt;weekend.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As we continue looking at issues of climate change, energy and the
&lt;br/&gt;environment, we're joined by two more guest speakers at this
&lt;br/&gt;weekend's International Forum on Globalization in D.C.: Michael
&lt;br/&gt;Klare, professor of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire
&lt;br/&gt;College, author of a number of books, including Blood and Oil: The
&lt;br/&gt;Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Dependency on Imported
&lt;br/&gt;Petroleum; and Simon Retallack, head of the climate change team at
&lt;br/&gt;the Institute for Public Policy Research in Britain, coauthor of the
&lt;br/&gt;new report, "Positive Energy: Harnessing People Power to Prevent
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We're going to turn first to Michael Klare. President Bush spoke last
&lt;br/&gt;night, addressed the nation, talked about why we continue the war in
&lt;br/&gt;Iraq. Can you talk about the connections between war and oil or, as
&lt;br/&gt;you put it, the title your book, Blood and Oil.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MICHAEL KLARE: Well, Amy, good to talk with you. There are really two
&lt;br/&gt;wars now underway, I think, in Iraq, maybe more than two. There's the
&lt;br/&gt;US effort to retain, as what President Bush said last night, an
&lt;br/&gt;enduring presence in Iraq. And I believe that's connected to our,
&lt;br/&gt;that is America's, long-lasting geopolitical imperative of being the
&lt;br/&gt;dominant power in the Persian Gulf. And, of course, he also refers a
&lt;br/&gt;lot to Iran, now the next threat perceived on the horizon to American
&lt;br/&gt;dominance. So one part of the war in Iraq, I believe, have always
&lt;br/&gt;believed, is part of this long-standing US effort to dominate the
&lt;br/&gt;region geopolitically and control the oil spigot from the Gulf, where
&lt;br/&gt;two-thirds of the world's oil is located.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But there's a second war underway, and that's a war for the control
&lt;br/&gt;of Iraq's oil wealth. And that's a war that is pitting Kurds against
&lt;br/&gt;the Arabs of the country and Shiites against Sunnis, and Shiite
&lt;br/&gt;against Shiite, because eventually the Americans are going to leave,
&lt;br/&gt;and the people of Iraq know this, and they are now fighting amongst
&lt;br/&gt;themselves for who's going to control that territory. And I believe a
&lt;br/&gt;lot of the violence in Iraq today is really about that struggle for
&lt;br/&gt;control of Iraq's oil wealth. And American soldiers are caught in the
&lt;br/&gt;middle of this.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And I think, frankly, that American military leaders have come to
&lt;br/&gt;understand that the prospect of an Iraq, of a national Iraq, has been
&lt;br/&gt;lost. That war has been lost. What's left is the fighting over the
&lt;br/&gt;remains, the carcass of Iraq.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: Michael, on the issue of Iran, especially with all the
&lt;br/&gt;saber rattling, and even among many of the Democratic candidates for
&lt;br/&gt;president you find some of the same saber rattling toward Iran. Iran
&lt;br/&gt;is a huge nation. It is not only oil rich, but considerably
&lt;br/&gt;developed, with a huge population. What kind of -- your analysis of
&lt;br/&gt;the sense among military people about even talking about any kind of
&lt;br/&gt;military action or extension of what's happened in Iraq into Iran?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MICHAEL KLARE: Well, we tend to forget that the US military is not a
&lt;br/&gt;monolithic organization. I'm sure if you ask the ground forces, the
&lt;br/&gt;Army and the Marine Corps who are baring the brunt of the fighting in
&lt;br/&gt;Iraq, they'll say, you know, "Not over my dead body do we want to go
&lt;br/&gt;to war with Iran." They are stretched to the limit. They couldn't
&lt;br/&gt;take on another single mission anywhere in the world. So they're
&lt;br/&gt;saying, "Please don't start any trouble in Iran."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But if you ask the Air Force or the Navy, they feel differently.
&lt;br/&gt;They're not overstretched in Iraq. They might feel very differently
&lt;br/&gt;about it. They might be looking for missions And I think, in fact,
&lt;br/&gt;that the military is divided on this, as is the administration.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It's clear that Condoleezza Rice, I believe, and others of a more
&lt;br/&gt;realistic nature, I suppose you'd say, think that attacking Iran
&lt;br/&gt;would be a tremendous mistake. But there are clearly ideologues,
&lt;br/&gt;neoconservatives, led by the Vice President, who are strongly
&lt;br/&gt;committed to attacking Iran. And I fear that they're prevailing in
&lt;br/&gt;this debate and that before the administration leaves office that we
&lt;br/&gt;will see an attack on Iran.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to turn to Simon Retallack, who is just in from
&lt;br/&gt;Britain for the International Forum on Globalization conference. What
&lt;br/&gt;is "climate porn"?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;SIMON RETALLACK: Good question. It's a phrase that authors of a
&lt;br/&gt;report that we commissioned in London came up with to describe the
&lt;br/&gt;way in which some journalists, some environmentalists and even some
&lt;br/&gt;politicians use alarmist language to talk about climate change, in a
&lt;br/&gt;way that you might see headlined, certainly in British newspapers,
&lt;br/&gt;saying almost "the end is nigh," using biblical terms to describe the
&lt;br/&gt;impacts of climate change. It's a phrase that is certainly not used
&lt;br/&gt;to undermine the science. It certainly doesn't mean to do that. What
&lt;br/&gt;it seeks to do is try to encourage people to think about what sort of
&lt;br/&gt;language will be necessary to motivate the public to take action.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;If we talk about climate change in a way that makes it appear that
&lt;br/&gt;there's nothing we can do anymore about it, that it's too late, that
&lt;br/&gt;it's happening, it's going to be devastating on a global scale,
&lt;br/&gt;without giving people the option and making the solutions clear to
&lt;br/&gt;act, then I think we're going to turn people off. So it's part of
&lt;br/&gt;some research and a long-running project that we're engaged with to
&lt;br/&gt;try to find ways of simulating climate-friendly behavior amongst the
&lt;br/&gt;public.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: Simon, in the previous segment, Vandana Shiva talked
&lt;br/&gt;about what she called a fallacy of using fixes like trading in
&lt;br/&gt;pollution credits in the United States. So you've analyzed what the
&lt;br/&gt;EU is doing in terms of this kind of approach. Could you talk about
&lt;br/&gt;that?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;SIMON RETALLACK: Yes, certainly. I mean, one of the most commonly
&lt;br/&gt;adopted solutions in the world for dealing with climate change has
&lt;br/&gt;been the support for cap and trade schemes, where there's a cap
&lt;br/&gt;placed on emissions and companies get given quotas, and they can
&lt;br/&gt;trade them to meet their reductions. The big problem with the
&lt;br/&gt;European scheme, and I foresee a problem with potential US-wide
&lt;br/&gt;schemes in the future, is that the caps placed on industry have been
&lt;br/&gt;far too weak. Governments have over-allocated pollution permits to
&lt;br/&gt;industry, which has meant that the cost of a ton of carbon on the
&lt;br/&gt;European markets is far too low, and it isn't delivering the step
&lt;br/&gt;change in investments that we need to see in renewable energy and
&lt;br/&gt;energy efficiency to do our bit to avoid dangerous climate change.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We're at a critical point, not just in the EU, about here in the US
&lt;br/&gt;now, where finally, with a Democratically controlled Congress, we're
&lt;br/&gt;going to see this full attempt to pass a cap and trade bill through
&lt;br/&gt;Congress. We've got to make sure, and anyone who's listening to this
&lt;br/&gt;and watching this needs to do their part to ensure, that the right
&lt;br/&gt;caps are put in place. At the moment, most of the bills before
&lt;br/&gt;Congress only envisage far too little emission reductions by 2050. We
&lt;br/&gt;need to see at least 80% cuts in emissions, at least, by 2050, with
&lt;br/&gt;early action being critically important, too, if we're to avoid the
&lt;br/&gt;most dangerous impacts from climate change. And we need to put
&lt;br/&gt;pressure on our representatives and senators in the US to ensure that
&lt;br/&gt;adequate action is taken at this critically important point.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: I wanted to go back to Michael Klare and ask you a
&lt;br/&gt;question about the research in global climate change. I was just at
&lt;br/&gt;Stanford University. They have the GCEP program, that is Global
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Environment Program, that got something like $225 million
&lt;br/&gt;from ExxonMobil, General Electric, Shlumberger and Toyota. You have
&lt;br/&gt;University of California, Berkeley, got something like half-a-billion
&lt;br/&gt;dollars from BP. They call it "Beyond Petroleum" now, British
&lt;br/&gt;Petroleum. How is this corporate control of academia or funding of
&lt;br/&gt;academia affecting the research? Are you concerned about this?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MICHAEL KLARE: Well, I think everybody should be concerned. What I
&lt;br/&gt;think is going on is that the oil companies themselves have realized
&lt;br/&gt;what we'll be talking about tonight, which is that we're coming to
&lt;br/&gt;the end of conventional petroleum -- that is, liquid petroleum, the
&lt;br/&gt;stuff that you stick a drill in the ground, and it comes gushing out.
&lt;br/&gt;The days of easy-to-find liquid petroleum are over.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And the oil companies understand this, even if their propaganda says
&lt;br/&gt;otherwise. And they want to control whatever is going to replace it,
&lt;br/&gt;whatever new liquid fuels come online. So they want to invest
&lt;br/&gt;billions of dollars into the research, into whatever new fuels are
&lt;br/&gt;going take the place of conventional petroleum, whether it's biofuels
&lt;br/&gt;or synthetic liquids from tar sands or shell oil or whatever the next
&lt;br/&gt;fuels will be, so that their companies can dominate the production
&lt;br/&gt;and the marketing and the retailing of these liquids and retain the
&lt;br/&gt;monopoly on our energy, as they have now.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;So, of course, we should be very deeply worried about it, because it
&lt;br/&gt;could foreclose other solutions that probably would be healthier for
&lt;br/&gt;all of us, in the sense that David Korten was speaking about earlier,
&lt;br/&gt;of a more egalitarian, a more healthy form of energy system.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Michael Klare and Simon Retallack, I want to thank you
&lt;br/&gt;for being with us. Both will be speaking this weekend, beginning
&lt;br/&gt;tonight, at George Washington University at Lisner Auditorium, part
&lt;br/&gt;of the International Forum on Globalization. Michael Klare's latest
&lt;br/&gt;book, Blood and Oil: The Dangers and Consequences of America's
&lt;br/&gt;Growing Dependency on Imported Petroleum. Simon Retallack is with the
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change Team at the Institute for Public Policy Research in
&lt;br/&gt;Britain, just in for this conference. Thanks so much for being there.
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&lt;br/&gt;We speak with British climate change expert, Simon Retallack about so-
&lt;br/&gt;called "climate porn." Retallack says, "It's a phrase that's
&lt;br/&gt;certainly not used to undermine the science...But if we talk about
&lt;br/&gt;climate change in a way that makes it appear that there's nothing we
&lt;br/&gt;can do anymore about it, that it's too late, that it's going to be
&lt;br/&gt;devastating on a global scale...I think we're going to turn people
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&lt;br/&gt;Simon Retallack, head of the Climate Change Team at the Institute for
&lt;br/&gt;Public Policy Research in Britain. He is the co-author of the new
&lt;br/&gt;report "Positive Energy: Harnessing People Power to Prevent Climate
&lt;br/&gt;Change."
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&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Last week, tens of thousands of people attended Farm Aid
&lt;br/&gt;here in New York City. It's an annual concert to raise support for
&lt;br/&gt;family farmers. This is the musician Neil Young, one of the
&lt;br/&gt;organizers of Farm Aid.
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&lt;br/&gt;NEIL YOUNG: Transporting food around the world to other countries and
&lt;br/&gt;using all of that fuel and all of that packaging and all of that air-
&lt;br/&gt;conditioning fuel and all of those things that need to happen to get,
&lt;br/&gt;say, a tomato -- since that's on our mind today, we're coming with a
&lt;br/&gt;tomato now -- from Chile to California, it costs a lot of
&lt;br/&gt;environmental damage just getting that one tomato up there.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And so, if you look at the world and you figure one of the things
&lt;br/&gt;about our big agriculture is that we want to feed the world --
&lt;br/&gt;doesn't that sound great? You know? We're going to help everybody.
&lt;br/&gt;OK, you know, that's great. But I don't think it's really that way. I
&lt;br/&gt;think we ought to feed ourselves, the people that are close to us,
&lt;br/&gt;and we ought to let the people around the world feed themselves with
&lt;br/&gt;their own crops so that we don't go in there and take their food crop
&lt;br/&gt;away and give them a cash crop and then say we're going to give you
&lt;br/&gt;food. And that's what we do. We have people growing textile materials
&lt;br/&gt;and cotton and things in third world countries, and we do business
&lt;br/&gt;with them through China, and we do all of these things with our
&lt;br/&gt;economics. And we undermine the sustainability of the countries that
&lt;br/&gt;we say we're helping. And then, if these countries don't cooperate
&lt;br/&gt;with us, we control their food supply.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;AMY GOODMAN: Musician Neil Young at the Farm Aid concert this past
&lt;br/&gt;weekend.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;As we continue looking at issues of climate change, energy and the
&lt;br/&gt;environment, we're joined by two more guest speakers at this
&lt;br/&gt;weekend's International Forum on Globalization in D.C.: Michael
&lt;br/&gt;Klare, professor of Peace and World Security Studies at Hampshire
&lt;br/&gt;College, author of a number of books, including Blood and Oil: The
&lt;br/&gt;Dangers and Consequences of America's Growing Dependency on Imported
&lt;br/&gt;Petroleum; and Simon Retallack, head of the climate change team at
&lt;br/&gt;the Institute for Public Policy Research in Britain, coauthor of the
&lt;br/&gt;new report, "Positive Energy: Harnessing People Power to Prevent
&lt;br/&gt;Climate Change."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;We're going to turn first to Michael Klare. President Bush spoke last
&lt;br/&gt;night, addressed the nation, talked about why we continue the war in
&lt;br/&gt;Iraq. Can you talk about the connections between war and oil or, as
&lt;br/&gt;you put it, the title your book, Blood and Oil.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MICHAEL KLARE: Well, Amy, good to talk with you. There are really two
&lt;br/&gt;wars now underway, I think, in Iraq, maybe more than two. There's the
&lt;br/&gt;US effort to retain, as what President Bush said last night, an
&lt;br/&gt;enduring presence in Iraq. And I believe that's connected to our,
&lt;br/&gt;that is America's, long-lasting geopolitical imperative of being the
&lt;br/&gt;dominant power in the Persian Gulf. And, of course, he also refers a
&lt;br/&gt;lot to Iran, now the next threat perceived on the horizon to American
&lt;br/&gt;dominance. So one part of the war in Iraq, I believe, have always
&lt;br/&gt;believed, is part of this long-standing US effort to dominate the
&lt;br/&gt;region geopolitically and control the oil spigot from the Gulf, where
&lt;br/&gt;two-thirds of the world's oil is located.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But there's a second war underway, and that's a war for the control
&lt;br/&gt;of Iraq's oil wealth. And that's a war that is pitting Kurds against
&lt;br/&gt;the Arabs of the country and Shiites against Sunnis, and Shiite
&lt;br/&gt;against Shiite, because eventually the Americans are going to leave,
&lt;br/&gt;and the people of Iraq know this, and they are now fighting amongst
&lt;br/&gt;themselves for who's going to control that territory. And I believe a
&lt;br/&gt;lot of the violence in Iraq today is really about that struggle for
&lt;br/&gt;control of Iraq's oil wealth. And American soldiers are caught in the
&lt;br/&gt;middle of this.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;And I think, frankly, that American military leaders have come to
&lt;br/&gt;understand that the prospect of an Iraq, of a national Iraq, has been
&lt;br/&gt;lost. That war has been lost. What's left is the fighting over the
&lt;br/&gt;remains, the carcass of Iraq.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;JUAN GONZALEZ: Michael, on the issue of Iran, especially with all the
&lt;br/&gt;saber rattling, and even among many of the Democratic candidates for
&lt;br/&gt;president you find some of the same saber rattling toward Iran. Iran
&lt;br/&gt;is a huge nation. It is not only oil rich, but considerably
&lt;br/&gt;developed, with a huge population. What kind of -- your analysis of
&lt;br/&gt;the sense among military people about even talking about any kind of
&lt;br/&gt;military action or extension of what's happened in Iraq into Iran?
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;MICHAEL KLARE: Well, we tend to forget that the US military is not a
&lt;br/&gt;monolithic organization. I'm sure if you ask the ground forces, the
&lt;br/&gt;Army and the Marine Corps who are baring the brunt of the fighting in
&lt;br/&gt;Iraq, they'll say, you know, "Not over my dead body do we want to go
&lt;br/&gt;to war with Iran." They are stretched to the limit. They couldn't
&lt;br/&gt;take on another single mission anywhere in the world. So they're
&lt;br/&gt;saying, "Please don't start any trouble in Iran."
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;But if you ask the Air Force or the Navy, they feel differently.
&lt;br/&gt;They're not overstretched in Iraq. They might feel very differently
&lt;br/&gt;about it. They might be looking for missions And I think, in fact,
&lt;br/&gt;that the military is divided on this, as is the administration.
&lt;br/&gt;
&lt;br/&gt;It's clear that Condoleezza Rice, I believe, and others of a more
&lt;br/&gt;realistic nature, I suppose you'd say, think that attacking Iran
&lt;br/&gt;would be a tremendous mistake. But there are clearly ideologues,
&lt;br/&gt;neoconservatives, led by the Vice President, who are stron