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I quit effexor cold turkey nov 18 2007 I was extremely ill while the last few years taking effexor and have improved in some respects. Other issues however remain. I have been frequenting paxilprogress.org and have found others on that site which are experiencing the same issues as I am from quitting effexor. I wonder if this is a protracted withdrawal or damage done by the drug that does not heal. The main idea on pp is that the damage will reverse if given enough time. I am doubting that perhaps the damage done by paxil heals and that from effexor does not. Protracted withdrawal is a very active topic on paxil progress and I am thinking effexor may have the same withdrawal issues they sure seem very close. I am hoping in a few years it may pass but have heard from some that are still dealing with it 3 years later.
I checked a site today that was referred by the effexor activist which as a good site called "coming off psychiatric meds" I have to say that it states withdrawal should end a few wks after the drug is stopped. This has not been my experience and so I would not recommend this site. I find I am still dealing with withdrawal and I am sure many others are too. For me it is debilitating. The lack of information and support by the medical comunity is disgraceful. The idea these drugs are still on the market to me is criminal.
I would like to hear back from others that feel they are in protracted withdrawal from effexor.
I checked a site today that was referred by the effexor activist which as a good site called "coming off psychiatric meds" I have to say that it states withdrawal should end a few wks after the drug is stopped. This has not been my experience and so I would not recommend this site. I find I am still dealing with withdrawal and I am sure many others are too. For me it is debilitating. The lack of information and support by the medical comunity is disgraceful. The idea these drugs are still on the market to me is criminal.
I would like to hear back from others that feel they are in protracted withdrawal from effexor.
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Wed, November 12, 2008 - 4:51 PMHi Sandy
Have you attempted to contact any of these experts?
www.breggin.com/
Peter R. Breggin, M.D.
www.drugawareness.org/home.html
Dr. Ann Blake Tracy
www.prozacbacklash.com/
Joseph Glenmullen M.D.
David Healy MD
www.healyprozac.com/
www.drdach.com/home.php
Jeffrey Dach, M.D.
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Sat, November 22, 2008 - 4:14 PMtheeffexoractivist.org/forum/...pic.php
Venlafaxine - Long Term Adverse Effects
Richard Lathe rlathe@ed.ac.uk
Sir - I write to report adverse effects of venlafaxine from observations on one subject and from a wider survey of the literature. One subject receiving venlafaxine (Efexor XL, 75 mg/day) for 6 months reported headaches and related symptoms of severity sufficient to preclude normal function. Discontinuation was found impossible, medication was recommenced according to a schedule for tapered removal.
Following complete discontinuation the headaches disappeared, but investigation revealed that the subject had experienced debilitating inertia for the period of the medication. Longer-term problems have also became apparent: 1 month later the subject still reports sudden episodes of nausea, temporary disconnection, palpitations, tremor, sweating, unsteadiness.
On investigation I find that this is not unusual. There is a volume of literature on the acute and chronic adverse effects of discontinuing Venlafaxine, including nausea, memory loss, tinnitis, altered sleep patterns, digestive disturbances, and tremor, termed the 'serotonin syndrome' (1). Indeed, the manufacturer (Wyeth) could face charges for failure to issue proper warnings (2). New guidance from the FDA recognises the adverse consequences of Venlafaxine discontinuation (4). It is notable that the information issued with Venlafaxine (Efexor XL) in November 2001 only speaks of transient adverse effects 'for a few days' (5).
In summary, the prominent side-effects (6) including debilitating inertia are clearly undesirable when comparable results can be obtained with other therapies(7). Further, the duration of medication here (8 months) is, as far as I can establish, longer than the maximum period of clinical trials 8): a strong argument can be made that the drug administration should be restricted to less than 6 months, with tapered discontinuation scheduled from inception.
Richard Lathe
Biomedical Sciences, Faculty of Medicine, University of Edinburgh, George Square,
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Tue, November 25, 2008 - 8:41 PMI wrote an email to Richard Lathe rlathe@ed.ac.uk author of this letter have not heard a word back. Apparently his email is still good. I was seeking advice about withdrawal and any information he may have gathered on how to recover from the nasty unwanted effects of effexor. I will post his reply if he ever answers. The internet should make exposing and healing from bad drugs a well informed task it makes me wonder why it isn't. Why is it so difficult to get any information. I am particularly interested in bacterium a supposed side effect of effexor as I was ill with one infection after another for years while taking effexor. I think it is listed as a side effect because it is yet there is no information on how it presents itself or how to treat it. If anyone finds any information on this topic please post it here. I do not visit much lately as there doesn't seem to be much activity other than mine. I would hope things pick up here soon.
Is there any chance of effexor activist picking up where it let off?
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Thu, January 1, 2009 - 6:03 PMI personally called Peter Breggin (The Antidepressant Fact Book) to ask him how long 'withdrawal' symptoms persist. He told me that recovery, whatever form it takes, is usually complete within two years. After that you are probably stuck with whatever symptoms persist.
That was four years ago, one year into withdrawal. I basically stopped recovering at 2 years just like he said. But now, at 5 years, I am finding some of my problems getting slightly worse, especially after a course of Ultram (weak opioid but also boosts serotonin and norepinephrine) and a year of morphine. Each of these drugs seems to have temporarily masked the long-term symptoms but on withdrawal they were slightly worse, or maybe it is just age catching up with me. Personally I think that any drug that strongly tweaks neurotransmitters will have permanent effects, more severe if taken daily in the long-term, or if taken repeatedly in short episodes, or if taken in very high doses. Basically any chemical insult that brings about neurotoxic changes or plasticity adaptation will cause permanent damage. The only question is, will the person have enough residual capacity that the damage is unnoticeable, or will it be obvious?
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Tue, June 30, 2009 - 10:30 PMI know I have tried a some but since my mind has not been well as far as memory goes I could not say for sure which ones. I can tell you none have replied to me.
I have read two of healys books have not been able to get tracys book in the library have read the prozac backlash too. I have been to every one of these stes except the last drdacyh.
While I have learned a great deal enough that I will never take another of these drugs and all drugs are suspect...I have learned how to accept it all. Guess there are some thing not so easy to learn.
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 7:20 PMI am still having symptoms 5 years off Effexor.
The man in the next cubicle is still having symptoms 6 years off Paxil.
The woman down the street is still having symptoms 8 years off Prozac.
Yes it is permanent. If your symptoms did not vanish within a week or so, it will probably be permanent. -
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Re: protracted withdrawal or panes
Mon, December 29, 2008 - 11:17 PMAre there certain symptoms that do not go away? Could you list he ones that seem to be an issue.
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