Empathing on PURPOSE?

topic posted Thu, October 22, 2009 - 1:56 PM by  simple songs
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Ok, tell me what your thoughts are on this... I was thinking this morning about how much being empathic has affected my life. I noticed that I have always empathed with people, very deeply, especially as a child. There have been good people in my life, but also many crappy ones. It sucks when I've empathed with a crappy person, because it's highly possible that I will start acting like them. I know the goal is to get to the real us, but I was thinking, while we work towards that, what if we concisously chose to empath with people we look up to? I was thinking that if I'm blocked creatively, I could try to empath with a favorite songwriter. or if I need a spiritual boost, I could look to figures like the Dalai Lama. I feel like I am totally capable of doing this because I already do it on accident. I empath very well with books, and the charachters in books. I read a lot of non-fiction, and I *FEEL* every word they say and it sticks to me like glue, so it is inevitable that I will begin to live my life in similar ways as the author in the book once I have absorbed it. I think I did this as a performer for many years. I had certain singers I looked up to and really synced into their energy. I felt like I felt when I saw THEM perform.

Since becoming fully aware of my sensitivity level, I have vigilantly forced myself to be very "Zen" about everything. Taming down my emotions on everything. I'm thinking about opening myself up to my sensitivities a bit so that I can try to consciously empath with energy that I want to attain for myself. What are your thoughts? Does that sound risky. I will probably try it anyway, but I'm curious of what you think about that?
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  • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

    Thu, October 22, 2009 - 3:04 PM
    Hmmm.....very interesting SimpleSong.

    But isn't it so in music that you have to make the song your own? I guess it would work to know what the person experienced while doing the song and then jazz it up.

    I remember watching an interview with Gregory Hines on tap dancing. Tap dancers would mimic each other as a complement and then add to the routine.

    Personally I am developing the skill of empathing with people I see walking around to know what they are up to. It works quite well. You get to see what they want to do, or in other words their intent. ;)
    • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

      Thu, October 22, 2009 - 9:07 PM
      Of course you want to be original, but if a performer has some gift of expressing themselves in a certain way or a special way they connect with the audience, I think it's helpful to tap into that and THEN make it your own ;)
      • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

        Thu, October 22, 2009 - 9:08 PM
        "Personally I am developing the skill of empathing with people I see walking around to know what they are up to. It works quite well. You get to see what they want to do, or in other words their intent. ;)"

        I do this with my clients. It lets me know who I can and cannot trust :) I've never been wrong either!
        • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

          Thu, October 22, 2009 - 11:06 PM
          Interesting, I have normally over my life, tried to avoid contact, not seek it out. But for me, it just happens, most are a rush of mass, and not always distinguishable as individuals. But as needed or as I look at others it just happens, mostly automatically now. I guess wired 24/7 with whom ever I am near. When am in a store, I might see some on looking for a vitamin or something, I auto cue in, does he need help, and will it help if I help them.

          I do find I get impressions when I see others, but they are not all deep, some are surface and some block.

          It just happens, I think as need to protect and help others. I find I am pulled or pushed away by people, depending on how much they would be in tune or in harmony with me, or not.

          David
          • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

            Fri, October 23, 2009 - 11:49 AM
            >"I do find I get impressions when I see others, but they are not all deep, some are surface and some block. "<

            David, before I tried to explore emapathing. I found that with more meditation I could use it creatively. Like I could get to a point I could count the people in a room before I entered it. But this took a lot of energy and effort. So I just started to 'listen' emapth-wise. And that's when the world opened up to me.

            I also had to learn to detach myself when I picked up someone's bad juju. I also found out that I can change my focus my concentrating on someone else. These helped me tremendously. Of course I'm an emotion empath not a physical one.

            I'm curious though. I remember a weird kind of test someone did on me to determine if I needed a certain vitamin. They had me hold it in my hand and to my solar plexus. Apparently the tighter you hold it the more needy you need the vitamin. So as a physical empath, can you get benefit from empathing on fruit, or medicine?
  • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

    Fri, October 23, 2009 - 12:52 AM
    I do this, Simple Songs, and as long as you are in control of it, I see nothing wrong with it. I used to focus on Mother Teresa, various musicians, etc... and feel their frame of mind. I had to be careful because I could pick up on the negative baggage a lot of musicians carry. You can steer your mind away from that; you can focus JUST on the talent part. I get such a high when I do this; I definitely don't need drugs! lol
    • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

      Fri, October 23, 2009 - 3:41 PM
      You know Simple Songs, that sound like what Method Actors do. Instead of pretending they try to become. Maybe those actors that use that style are more empathic? Well it's good to know we are so sensitive to what we are around so we can manual control what comes into our sphere as much as possible. I so understand that about things just sticking to you. I didn't have any role models as a child so I picked Linda Carters role as Wonder Woman (smart, beautiful, respectful, intuitive and powerful but always high in integrity - I know she wasn't real but I didn't need a real image only a focus) and later I used Ghandi, Columbo, Bruce Lee, etc.

      ))"I definitely don't need drugs! lol (("
      LOL, My ex used to say I had a natural time released LSC in my system
      • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

        Sat, October 24, 2009 - 2:19 PM
        YES I totally believe that the best actors are empathic. You have to be in order to get so into a charachter!! It's funny, I fell into acting in high school and college and surprised everyone, including myself, with how good I was at it. I always secretly knew it was because I could feel how other people felt.
        • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

          Sun, October 25, 2009 - 4:02 PM
          Eric

          What you speak of is commonly called muscle testing, trained health professionals would call it applied kineselogy. You have a spirit and energy around your body, which connect to the meridian lines and etc, and nerves. When something not good for your body, your body and at subconscious levels know that. And when place on our body or within its energy, it will weaken you for awhile, until it is used to it being there. So if you put mild or moderate pressure on a muscle, it will give way. It is also a matter of letting your mind and body know what you want to do, in simple form, you program it, just like your computer.

          I did this for years, to test for what foods were not good or which were good, same for supplements and herbs. I can ask what is needed to say strengthen some organ or kill germs or parasites and it will let me know, what is best, of the ones I give it to choose from, and how much and how often. it works very nicely for me. Except I also have it seems a added gift of discernment which gives me info more complex and more fully diagnosed, for the lack of a better way to say it.

          When taking bulk powder herbs, now how much and how often, with tabs, know as soon I focus on the bottle, how many to take. I know that when I take my spiralina tabs, I just pour some in my hand, and 8 out of 10 times the count is the same 12, and the other 2 times it is one over or shy, I find that interesting, I guess that is like counting others in a room before entering maybe.

          I now can just sense most of the time, don't need to muscle test most of the time anymore. I found that when I continued to muscle test, I could feel something,as i continued, it got stronger, was able to know without muscle testing. Yes is sort of like how you might feel breathing in extra air, no is like you feel with a lack of air, some times it is a slight burning yes. Then I know the spirit is involved too. How much just pops into head most times. Sometimes I need to go back the old way and add or take away to figure it out.

          I don't need to be in close contact to view to do this or a persons body, they only need to open; most are, but some have defensive walls up. It is sort of like being one of those computer that analyze, that they can hook up to people or cars and know what is going one, except it is more perfect I feel.
  • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

    Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:29 PM
    Re: the original Post.

    It sounds like you are saying: Trying to concentrate your mind on people and things that are most condusive to your own happiness.

    I like this idea and perspective.

    I too tend to become like the people I'm around. I can't seem to help it. I don't think you can shield that if you are a total empath.

    But choosing to spend your mental time on 'better things' is a great philosophy.
    • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

      Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:42 PM
      >"I too tend to become like the people I'm around. I can't seem to help it. I don't think you can shield that if you are a total empath. "<

      I found that its not shielding that can help this, but releasing the emotions from yourself. That way though you feel and sense, you don't have to follow. I found this to be a coping technique and very effective. Sometimes it took some effort, especially around strong negative feelings. This allows me to actually behave more normally among people.
      • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

        Sat, November 7, 2009 - 7:46 PM
        It also helps me to turn the empath effect from a liability to an asset.
        • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

          Sun, November 8, 2009 - 10:11 AM
          Cup, yes that's about right. I started being very, very careful about who I spend my time around last year, when I became totally freelance in my work (making it much easier to control of course). It's true. I do empath so intensely with everyone I am around. CHoosing to be around people I look up to is making be a better person. It's making other things tricky though. It's tempting to watch crime shows (I so love them) but if I watch too often I become angry, paranoid, suspicious and fearful which makes me not so great to be around.
          • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

            Sun, November 8, 2009 - 10:48 AM
            I love the title of this post, especially if I take off the question mark and put in an exclamation point. Simplesongs, in your intuitive readings do you notice you pick up things more clearly if you watch who you are around through the day?

            Empathing on PURPOSE!

            ))"It's tempting to watch crime shows (I so love them) but if I watch too often I become angry, paranoid, suspicious and fearful which makes me not so great to be around."((

            So hear you sister! That detecting mind of mind of mind loves to get to the heart of things and the other side loves to sense the people's emotions/body language. But alas, I don't enjoy the side affects my body gets from feeding it a steady diet of it either in real time or in movies. So, I read FBI type fiction books - fun and stimulating.
            • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

              Sun, November 8, 2009 - 3:13 PM
              Cup, you said above: It sounds like you are saying: Trying to concentrate your mind on people and things that are most conducive to your own happiness.

              I like this idea and perspective.

              I too tend to become like the people I'm around. I can't seem to help it. I don't think you can shield that if you are a total empath.

              But choosing to spend your mental time on 'better things' is a great philosophy

              Actually I don't really concentrate, it just happens, it is now automatic. It developed out of survival as my empathic ability increased. I remember before this time, I was often got pushed away or emotionally hurt. I am a bit naive and child/Christ like in nature and have a hard time understanding the pain others inflict each other. Because being a Empath, to hurt someone else, is to hurt myself.

              I find I develop out of need to protect myself, then it become more of a automatic thing, just like any other talent one might develop.

              David
              • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

                Tue, November 10, 2009 - 9:54 AM
                "Simplesongs, in your intuitive readings do you notice you pick up things more clearly if you watch who you are around through the day? "

                Lately I do. I feel like I can read a person in just a few seconds when I meet them now. I try to keep an open mind, of course, just in case my ego is doing anything funny to my judgement, but I always keep my intuitive reading at the front of my mind while I "check it out" as I spend more time with the person. One of the things I am doing now if trusting my initial reaction to a possible new client when I'm either on the phone or corresponding through email. I spend time in their homes each week, so it's really important to me that I don't get into a bad energy situation. I had one client in the past that had so much bad energy. Every time I left her house I felt cranky and yucky and my next client always got the short end of the stick because of it. Once I dropped her (on my decision too), I realized that it really is important to be careful who I let into my life, even if it is just for one hour a week.

                Empathing on PURPOSE! I love it, Michelle! I want to make post it notes to put in my car to always be aware of the GOOD energy I come in contact with each day.
                • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

                  Tue, November 10, 2009 - 10:48 AM
                  I find that now, with people in mass public situations, I read people instantly if I am attracted to them for some reason. Sometimes it is a good attraction, I get extra good vibes from them, some times it seems to be from those who are a sensitive or empathic like I am, sometimes their very kind, caring and loving spirits. Most people are more or less neutral, I guess they get tuned out, in the mass amount of vibes filling the air, maybe.

                  When I make contact the good feelings and vibes dramatically increase as I talk to them.

                  When one on one, the contact increases and intensifies instantly.

                  I would be classed as a so called social hermit by most, but I love to interact with postive loving intelligent people similar to myself. Luckily I am at home, a Mr. Mom, because I am a disabled Veteran, medically retried little early in life, then most who don't have such problems.

                  I would love to be a Empathic Medical Intuitive professionally on a limit bases, but don't have a certificate or degree to do that, though in some places one may not need anything to do so.

                  I can get, but don't always get full blown impressing about others who might impact my life, but this realms more into such things as the gift of discernment, tied into my Empathic gifts I think. I have had in the past, recieved instant awareness and knowledge that some one was evil, a drug dealer or feel like they are a black life sucking black hole. But they are the exception and prefer to receive the good postive hits.

                  Others actually feed me and uplift me, mentally and emotionally, if I stay away from the energy sapping ones. Love to be around young upbeat kids and people, they are like a drug high, as long as it lasts.

                  Anyway, I have to carefully control who is around me for very long, because of the quick influence it can have on me.

                  A couple years ago, a young father caught me telling his son, who was riding his bike carelessly and recklessly in the street, in front of my home, with our 8 year old daughter, the kid was the same age. I yelled to the kid, I wish you would where a helmet, you are teaching my daughter bad habits and behavior, and what do you want, to end us as road kill. The kid was a real daredevil, and risk taker. His Dad overheard me, from their side yard, he ran over to get into my face an became very angry and hostile, instantly I doing it right back to him, that is not in anyway who I am. I tend to not only feel others emotions as my own, but can take on their behavior temporary until I realize try to disengage.

                  That is why I developed the title on the Indigo Society site, of Hypersensitive Morphic Empath, I tend to not only feel others emotions and feels as my own, I can morph others intense feelings an emotions. I discovered the same thing was happing when responding to some of the individual on the IS site. I learned that distance was no longer enough to keep me safe, to had to learn how to develop and put up Shields for protection and limit my time on the site, it things got bad. But luckily now, the site has changed and is much better, don't see the rowdy ones, as I used to call them.

                  David
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                    Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

                    Tue, November 10, 2009 - 12:51 PM
                    "His Dad overheard me, from their side yard, he ran over to get into my face an became very angry and hostile, instantly I doing it right back to him, that is not in anyway who I am. I tend to not only feel others emotions as my own, but can take on their behavior temporary until I realize try to disengage.
                    "

                    this is a hard habit to break. i learned how to overcome this one with intense focus and being in continuously negative situations, so i had a lot of practice oppurtunitites. meditation helps me learn how to focus enough to be totally aware when someone is being negative in a way that I DO NOT want to mimic
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                    Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

                    Tue, November 10, 2009 - 11:04 PM
                    >"I yelled to the kid, I wish you would where a helmet, you are teaching my daughter bad habits and behavior, and what do you want, to end us as road kill."<

                    I guess I would have tried to mentally tell the boy to wear a helmet before I talked to him or his father. Kids listen more readily to psychic messages than adults. But in this case David, you were dealing with strong headed people, the father and son. Could it be that dealing with the son you also picked up on his intensity and reflected it as well?

                    I go around life now empathing on just about everyone I see. Also I'll send out messages to them here and there, just to set the mood and ambiance.

                    But figuring out other's emotions sometimes gets interfered by my own strong emotions. I also noticed that when I touch someone (no I don't go around touching people) I can feel their emotions intensely.

                    If someone is not in front of me in corporal form, I can emapth on an image of them or the memory of them.
                    • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

                      Wed, November 11, 2009 - 11:47 AM
                      Normally I can see things coming or quickly pull away from what is happening ,but some times the energy hits so fast and so strong, it sucks me in, for awhile.

                      The guy seems to be a insecure Sensitive, and a Empath , but he was raised by a paranoid red neck narrow minded father. and he was raised in isolated areas away from neighbors. He is very controlling like his father, both are controllers, to the point of being abusive in a way.

                      We were best of friends with his wife, he was often gone working out of the area. She was the opposite, one of the most loving and caring and open person I had ever meet. She was sexy too, not in what she did, it was part of who she was inside.

                      The father and son were very narcissistic and narrow minded, an running from whom they were inside.
  • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

    Wed, November 11, 2009 - 1:30 AM
    "I would be classed as a so called social hermit by most, but I love to interact with postive loving intelligent people similar to myself."

    David, I am the same way. I am also disabled, so I have to be extra careful that the people I'm around don't have me caught up in their emotions or it could affect my health. But I absolutely love most children and the elderly, as I find them very interesting and uplifting. I can also sense those who are into drugs, addictive personalities, troubled souls, etc... and what's so difficult for me is not to interfere when it's a relative, I have to let them work out their own problems while just letting them know I am here for them if they need me.

    An interesting note... despite many of the British being very reserved (those I have met), I find that after a few minutes speaking with me, their bodies suddenly relax, their voice relaxes, and they let down their guard. I notice this especially over the phone. It doesn't take long for me to get them laughing about something. Then they seem puzzled as to why they "took" to me. My husband's financial advisor spoke to me over the phone for the first time, then told my husband he felt as if he'd known me all his life. He's coming here to the house next week, so this should prove interesting.
    • Re: Empathing on PURPOSE?

      Wed, November 11, 2009 - 11:37 AM
      I meet People too, who seem like long lost friends, in fact they are, we knew them before coming to Earth. and some times, I realize they are kindred spirits with similar values and same goals and desires and on the same vibration frequency it seems.

      My present wife, was a shiatsu therapist, now a school teacher. When we she put her hands on me, to start the massage, we both knew instantly, we knew each other before we came to earth, where we had long ago decided to help each other journey though life, if we every met..

      I met a woman years ago, married and only one child left in the home. We were like on the same frequency. I connected instantly when every we met, and I know exactly what was going on with her body and mood. I often saw it in the energy about her body. Once I saw her and saw her with a brown over cast. I knew immediately she needed more sunshine and to eat more vegetables with color. She did and he next time I saw her, the brown cast was gone; happened a few times before I left the area.

      David

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