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Hello everyone
I've experimented with other methods to raise trance - sleep deprivation, dreaming, dance, song, fasting, with varying results and experiences. I am feeling drawn towards plant medicine in my work, but I honestly do not know where to begin - this is entirely new territory for me. There is a lot of sites offering different blends of different things, and I don't know how reputable they are and something doesn't sit right with me having to purchase substances from elsewhere and was wondering if there is a good source for discovering the plant medicines that grow in the wild where I live? Before I delve into this practice I want to be equipped with a good share of tangible knowledge
thanks.
I've experimented with other methods to raise trance - sleep deprivation, dreaming, dance, song, fasting, with varying results and experiences. I am feeling drawn towards plant medicine in my work, but I honestly do not know where to begin - this is entirely new territory for me. There is a lot of sites offering different blends of different things, and I don't know how reputable they are and something doesn't sit right with me having to purchase substances from elsewhere and was wondering if there is a good source for discovering the plant medicines that grow in the wild where I live? Before I delve into this practice I want to be equipped with a good share of tangible knowledge
thanks.
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Re: Local Medicine
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 5:44 PMhey fishbowl i spose you gotta look around you and see what medicines are around your bioregion, do some research and see whats where you live you never know there just might be some plants there.
its hard to say what is as i do not know your bioregion at all -
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Re: Local Medicine
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 6:40 PMhey VS good to see you! yeah but the problem is I don't know where to look - e.g. what kind of subjects would cover this sort of thing? Botany, I would asume would be a good place to start . . . what are good search topics to find out more plants and what kind of medicine they have and where they grow... that sort of thing. -
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Re: Local Medicine
Wed, July 23, 2008 - 7:56 PMi am not too sure
start by looking at local medicine maybe traditional medicines worked with the indigenous people form that area?
get to kow what plants live where you are if any of those carry medicinal properties then start to see if there are any visionary plants i amguessing tobacco would be but i dont know
thn there might be some introducedplants there now tha are medicine
do mushrooms live where youa re are they psilly ones?
maybe start doing some reading on ethneogenic plants and get a feel for them
not sure if that helps but you can always start to grow yoru own ethno plants too get some seeds get to meet those plants as you grow them -
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Wed, July 23, 2008 - 9:17 PM- thanks for the advice - there are shrooms that grow here, but I am a little leary to try and identify them. this could be feartacktics at work to deter me, but from what I understand if you misidentify a shroom it can make you sick or even kill you. we have liberty caps but there so many that look just like them, ive left them alone. I do like the idea of growing my own from the seed and taking care of them but I have an apartment so I don't know how practicle that could be. I ll look into getting some books to help me identify stuff and what not...
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Re: Local Medicine
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 4:44 PMEthnobotany is the subject heading that I think might suit your search needs best. Botany may be too broad of a place to begin.
A few books I would suggest to start with;
Food of the Gods - Terence McKenna
Hallucinogenic Plants of North America - Jonathan Ott
Hallucinogenic Drugs and Plants in Psychotherapy and Shamanism - Ralph Metzner
The Doors of Perception - Aldous Huxley -
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Re: Local Medicine
Thu, July 24, 2008 - 7:53 PMThanks for the recommendations -
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Re: Local Medicine
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 12:45 AMHere is some of what I have found after doing some research on ethnobotony and ayahuasca. . .
Reed Canary Grass (Phalaris arundinacea) grows in most of the united states and canada - and tends to grow around wetlands and marshes. It is said to have slimier properties to Banisteriopsis caapi and Psychotria viridis . . . I wonder if anyone here has worked with canary grass? -
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Re: Local Medicine
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 1:50 AMwell no it doesnt have similar qualities to ayahuasca which is B Caapi, has similar qualities to viridis however, although it is not as usefull as viridis as far as i know and requires extraction and then its still not that good for that either as far as i know.
i beleive the canary grass has dmt and 5meo possibly.
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Re: Local Medicine
Fri, July 25, 2008 - 8:17 AMYeah VS - doing some further research this morning and found some better information. Also, according o one article it is very temperamental . . . Perhaps if I find something I can grow in my climet, that way I can get to know a plant intimately before working with its medicine. Thanks for sharing your knowledge. -
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Fri, July 25, 2008 - 2:49 PMwell if you are going to grow something there i would look at the dmt bearing plants like desmanthus, and look at getting a caapi vine but i dont know how you feel about growing plants from outside your bioregion for medicine, i would also look into growing some cactus.
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Re: Local Medicine
Tue, July 29, 2008 - 7:28 PMSome phalaris grass has 5-meo dmt, some has dmt, some is not psychoactive at all, and some has not-nice chemicals. There are only two ways to find out if a strain that grows in your area is psychoactive - try some or use a chromatograph to test for ingredients. The simplest and safest way to try it is to run the fresh grass through a wheatgrass juicer, dry the juice, then carefully smoke a little.
Even safer would be to obtain a known sample from someone and grow it. Strains such as Turkey Red and Big Medicine are sometimes seen for sale on ethnobotanical websites.
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