I just discovered this company called Biobag; they make bags out of corn gluten. They are 100% compostable and biodegradable. We ordered some of these for the office, and now I'm going to pick some up for home. I hope this doesn't sound like a commercial plug, I am just always excited about and eager to share to new ways to cut down on waste and help the environment. In addition to regular garbage bags, they also make pet waste bags, which is what I am looking forward to trying!
biobagusa.com
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 3:25 PMWe need things like this to tell big oil where to STICK IT!! -
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 4:56 PMthanks hexkat. . .hopefully soy and corn alternatives etc can quickly replace most uses of plastics.
not only good for the environment in terms of disposal, but manufacturing the plastics is a nasty process.
plus, they are made from petroleum which is a major reason for our trade deficit, which hurts our economy.
we need our economy to get under control so that we can use the strength to build the infrastructure
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 5:25 PMThat would also bring back some manufacturing jobs to the US, after they've been outsourced to other countries for the last couple of decades (or more...)
What about getting the people used to reusable bags and items instead of plastic? Shopping for veggies with a cloth, putting a EM bokashi compost system in the kitchen so that your 'trash' or the majority it composts instead of being thrown away in the plastic bags. Even these bags in the conventional system would probably not decompose - they have to be composted at home for their intended use to happen... Because modern dumps are lined with a thick plastic liner, covered over with dirt or other 'alternative daily cover', and eventually when the methane leaks they put in pipes to direct it to a burner to convert the methane to energy. Modern dumps to not allow things to biodegrade like they are meant to. Which is why we must get to zero waste... -
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Thu, April 17, 2008 - 7:13 PMHa. You read my mind. I actually do use cloth bags for produce and groceries already. And I have the bokashi kitchen composter on my to-buy list. But if you have to use garbage bags, I am happy to have a better alternative. Zero waste is a great goal to have, but we have to have interim solutions while industry shifts its focus to closed loop manufacturing.
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 10:00 AMHmmm... it is a good thing in theory, but as of now, food reserves are getting pretty tight. Maybe once they get the food thing back under control--- then this would be an awesome big time thing! But people is starvin! I just recycle my plastic bags. -
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Wed, May 7, 2008 - 10:08 AMwe need to stop importing cheap chinese crap, and start redeveloping our manufacturing system transforming it into a green economy, while at the same time helping african nations develop their agricultural infrastructure, so that yields increase and wastage decreases.
then we can look at using our crops for a variety of purposes without worrying that people will go hungry. . . -
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Re: Alternative to plastics...
Thu, May 8, 2008 - 10:53 PMUnfortunately, there ain't no money in africa besides diamonds. and the less african guards there are, the more likely the western governments can infiltrate.
i agree on the less chineese crap tho---- like, how much does the average consumer really need? i live a pretty nice life--- and i don't shop at walmart!
until the infrastructure changes tho, the hungry folk will just have to beg for scraps.
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