Yes, do so. My zills are still not my bestest buddies but we're learning to co-exist. One of my co-students once said they're good finger jewelry. :)

I don't suppose we're well rounded dancers at all if we don't learn to play our zills.

Zine

he's retiring??
ack!

i want some saroyan zils... need money!

My saroyans are much better than my cheap "practice" zills. The practice one dent around the edges and have blackened over time. Cheap. The sound/tone is much better with the Saroyans as well. If you have the chance, buy them where you try them out. Different styles have different tones and you'll want a set that doesn't drive you crazy.

As for learning. I was lucky enough to take a basic zill class from Suhaila. She broke it down into really easy pieces, and taught how to move along with it. That's the kicker - you CAN NOT learn zills standing still. You MUST move. (OK - my own personal opinion, but that the only way it's stuck with me). I'd recommend her method (and there must be a video out there).

Devon, that's really cheap! i was including shipping to here though, that does cost...

Naneh, yes, part of why i really like the saroyan website is that you can hear the sound of the zils. really high-pitched ones end up killing my ears lol, so i really wanted to pick by sound :)
thanks for the advice! i'll definitely look for a vid

I love zills too.... I have several of them, most of them are Saroyan's... and they are really good. The only ones my dog support are the Contemporary ones of Saroyan (at least from all the ones I have) because they have a low tonal range.
But my set Zildjian's are my absolute favorite!!! The sound is even purer then the sound of my Saroyan's..... and they are much heavier.

Saroyans are more than worth the woney. I have a pair and the tone is so much better than any other pair I have--now the others are languishing in my bag and tend to get lent out in class to people who forgot theirs. They sounds so good that I actually enjoy zill drills!

I love my Saroyan zills. The sound is amazing. I'd been zilling with cheap practice ones for years and I have to say, the Saroyans are wonderful. I'd totally reccommend them.

I love saroyan zills. I have smaller hands, so the smaller sizes work better. The heavy gauge makes a lower, louder tone in a smaller size.

i was going to paste a link to the chat on bd drills and choreo. but then i saw you on the thread ^_^

I just received my new Saroyan Grecian Silver zills yesterday.
They are gorgeous. The tone is elegant and feminine, not heavy.
They may be a bit large for smaller hands.
I compared the pitch of the pair that I have with the pitch of the example pair on the Saroyan website. The example pair are a micro hair sharper in pitch than mine, but otherwise, the tone quality is the same.
Apparently the Saroyan Grecian Brass are the lowest pitched of the Saroyan zills. The Grecian Silver are slightly higher in pitch than the brass. I would assume that the Grecian Silvers may be the lowest pitched of the Saroyan silver zills.
They are not hard on the ears!!!
If Mr. Saroyan is retiring soon, I may just order another pair as a "spare".
By the way, I found out from Marge who works in the Saroyan office, that the silver zills are made from an alloy of brass and German silver. They are not made of brass which is coated in silver. They are the same material throughout. They will take a long time to discolor because the German silver has some special property that prevents rapid discoloration.

i kindda think the Nefertiti sounds like a bicycle bell..... the sort that have a lever on it