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<div>idont know whats current here and whats irrelevant but some amendments to this travelogue would be very very nice. yea... <br/> <br/>Alabama <br/>"We've got lots of forests in North Alabama and sometimes a group called the Rainbow People come to Mount Cheaha and harmonize with nature. There are a great number of hippies living in the Calhoun County area; mainly in Anniston, Oxford and Jacksonville, Alabama. If any hippies need somewhere to move to, come on to Alabama. We have plenty of room and the people of our land don't care what you look like." <br/>Tuscaloosa, Alabama - We have a "smoking" hippie culture here. The music seen is about to explode with a phenonmenal acoustic player Adam Jason, a good friend and touring partner of Edwin Mc Cain's. Also there is Soulpatch, a " psychedelic hippie-funk rock-n-roll green grass with a southren fried twist" band that features former members of Dragon Lotion, Head East, The Mighty Pranksters, and Ko Ko Taylors Blues Machine. Both bands have Major label intrest and Soulpatch has secluded themselves for the winter to write an album. Adam has just released a new C.D. There is some kind food places if you like soulfood and plenty of kind for dessert!! the Rainbow Family has a strong presence with the Chalet Ridge Tribe in the area. <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Alaska <br/>"After spending the past few summers in the wonderful state of Alaska, I must let you know that the entire state is a great place to be. All summer long there are bluegrass shows, festivals and trips to be taken. Whether you are into the Matanuska thunderfuck, fruity pebbles, or any of the other delectables of the state, or just hitching around to see the land, you surely are welcome no matter what you are. I've had more amazing experiences in Alaska than I could ever imagine. My boyfriend and I hitched over a thousand miles to Homer. We had no problems getting a ride. Jerry's twin (right down to the nubby fingers) picked us up and let us camp in his front yard, fed us strawberry daiquiris and smoked all night. Let everyone know that Alaska is only part of the US because of it's government and monetary units. Go and visit, you may never come back :)" <br/>I just wanted to emphasize how cool Alaska is. I have lived here my entire life, all 19 years of it. I have visited many other places but there is no place, no where like home, because home is where the weed is and we've got the best! Lookin' for the ultimate festival ? We've got the Talkeetna blue grass festival every year in the begining of AUG. its four days of camping in the woods and trippin' to the sounds of blue grass. a must for anyone who wants to meet thousands of other people lookin' for a happy, fun time. keep on tokin' <br/> <br/>Delta Junction, Alaska - according to a contributor is the "highest per capita weed smokin' community - about 85% of the town here does!" <br/> <br/>Homer, Alaska - Located on the southern tip of the Kenai Peninsula it's FULL of people living as they wish. Some in schoolbuses, some in cabins, many w/o running water, electricity or with all the amenities, but the hearts are full. There are people living off the grid and the entire town is geared toward spirituality. The town of Homer has been called for many years, 'the cosmic hamlet by the sea'. Check out available web sites...although most of those are geared toward tourists. Do the bay...you will find many interesting people living a conscious, purposeful life <br/> <br/>Matanuska Valley, Alaska - Here grows the wonderful Matanuska Thunder Fuck, people all over the country who have tried Alaskan weed beg for more of this! Many laid back hippies moved to Alaska because marijuana was legal until 1990. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Arizona <br/>Bisbee, Arizona - This small community really flourished when the mining-company which owned the town bailed out in the mid-seventies and hippies from all over moved in. There is a great community here, with a co-op and lots of hippy artists living out in the desert. Check it out for yourself! Have a brew and a few games of nine ball at the Bisbee Grand, or play hacky sack in the grassy park in front of the mining museum right in downtown. <br/> <br/>Flagstaff, Arizona - a large community or family of hippies came here for the diversity of "the kind" and other "party favors." With the San Francisco Peaks and Sedona only twenty minutes away the opportunities for adventure are endless. <br/> <br/>Prescott, Arizona - The home of Prescott, University. You will find a large number of artists, mountain bikers, hikers, and outdoorsmen in this town, along with communes galore. Dancing circles of hippies beating drums and enjoying life in the middle of the wilderness are seen on mountain tops near here. People tell me that the university here is one of the most open-minded in the world, and it offers a variety of alternative majors (mountain climbing, kayaking, etc.) and the majority of students are studying from abroad. <br/> <br/>Sedona, Arizona - A hippie haven since before the Harmonic Convergence, this little town grew way too big and unfortunately allowed Macdonald's and other chains to destroy the charm. They say the vortexes are still there, humming in the mountains and sacred secret places. <br/> <br/>Tempe, Arizona - A visitor wrote us that "every Sunday there is a gathering of kind brothers and sisters in Tempe at the Sail Inn. We have been getting together for about two years for an afternoon of kind vibes with the incredible Grateful Dead cover band Noodles. They play from 4:20 till? If you're ever in town, we would love to have you join us. Hope to see ya sometime." <br/> <br/>UPDATE: Noodles now plays at Nita's Hideaway, also in Tempe on Sundays starting at 7:00pm. <br/> <br/>Tucson, Arizona - Home to the University of Arizona and a large hippy population, Tucson is happening! 4th Avenue is a hangout with lots of cool shops, cafes and clubs. The street occasionally gets transformed into a huge Art Festival. There's usually some good music around town, plus the nice climate and cheap smoke keeps everybody groovin'! That's why some call it "TooStoned". <br/> <br/>Winkelman, Arizona - there is a hippy type community....no phone lines there. it is an oasis in the dessert....many trees....you would be surprised at this place...i live there and it is awesome.....we ask that we are contacted prior to someone showing up....$2 a day ....camping spots limited....you can write to windspirit community, 4514 e. dripping springs rd. winkelman az 85292. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>California <br/>Arcata, California - "This is the best place to go if you're a hippie.. well, besides the Haight-Ashbury. It's located in Humboldt County, which is pretty well-known for it's marijuana growing. The community is great, there are always festivals going on about the earth, such as the Mushroom Fair, the Hemp Festival, North Country Fair, everything you can imagine. I love it here! The people are so supportive of you.. they've even made a law which states that women can indeed go topless around the plaza in the centre of town. ; ) <br/>Arcata is a totally unreal place to check out and LIVE too! The rents are cheap and it seems everyone is way laid back, with Humboldt next door and being amongst the greatest redwoods in the world, how can you go wrong!" <br/>Berkeley, California - If there is anywhere in California where hippies hang out, it is definitely in Berkeley. This is where a lot (if not most) of the hippy movement began. It is famous for it's protests in the 60's and 70's and even today. I have never been to a place where there are <br/>more liberal people in one area in my life, or more marijuana. Students and locals alike share the hippy mentality, just take a walk down Telegraph Ave.! <br/> <br/>Humboldt, California - "I Personally Don't Think You Emphasized how Many Hippies And How Much Ganja There really Is Out in Humboldt, Humboldt Is Like One Of The Main Places. We are the center of the "emerald triangle"... need I say more?" <br/> <br/>Lake Tahoe, California is not only one of the most beautiful places in the country, but everyone here is laid back, down to earth and totally into nature. How could you not be when you're living in a paradise like this? <br/> <br/>Mt. Shasta, California - "One of the most sacred places on earth. Everyone is so totally kind. The mountain pours out its love and watches over all its inhabitants. It snows for days in the winter, but in the summer I go live in the woods and draw off the healing energies. Another kind thing is that the cops realize that hippies are really laid back and we do a lot for the community and keep it beautiful, therefore we all do well living in harmony." <br/> <br/>San Diego, California - Especially Ocean Beach, Encinitas areas. Laid back mixture of surfers and hippies make for a cool scene. Check out The Black a famous headshop in O.B. Also "blacks beach every full moon at 8:00 p.m.". The music scene in S.D. is really happening these days. Great concerts from major acts and lots of smaller venues showcase local talent. Many things to like about S.D. and you can't beat the perfect climate! Worse thing is how expensive it's getting. <br/> <br/>San Francisco, California - Is still happening, especially the Haight-Asbury and Berkeley areas. The place where it all began in the Summer of Love, 1967 and where it continues to this day. <br/> <br/>Santa Cruz, California - "I'm not sure there is really a large population of hippies IN Santa Cruz--it's kind of a melting pot of all types of people--but if you're looking for some really beautiful scenery, kind people, and totally peaceful chillin', head to one of the towns a little bit north of Santa Cruz. Felton, Boulder Creek, Bonny Doon...it's way mellow there, and everyone's basically into mother nature and their brothers and sisters. It's also real close to the ocean. It's one of the prettiest areas you can imagine...head there on your travels. You won't be sorry!" <br/> <br/>Venice Beach, California - every Sunday people get together and form a drum circle. "It's a hippie haven and it lasts until sunset. Come visit us!" <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Colorado <br/>Boulder, Colorado - "As one who has lived in and visited Boulder, CO over the years, I must warn everybody not to judge a book by it's cover. Sure, Boulder is a very hip &amp; fun town, but times are changing. Due to an ever-increasing influx of "hippies", Deadheads, Phishheads, etc., the local law enforcement has been cracking down on the free-spirited mentality of our lifestyle. I have personally witnessed numerous human rights violations &amp; unnecessary arrests all stemming from pressure by the local government &amp; Boulder residents to "clean up the town". I mean, how many places can you go where both you AND YOUR DOG get arrested in the same day?!!! Don't laugh, because it has happened!" <br/> <br/>Manitou Springs, Colorado - Located in the mountains at the foot of Pikes Peak. Lots of hippies live here, mainly older ones along with many artists and other cool folks too. Musicians playing on the street is encouraged by the town and every February Manitou Springs host one true hippie Mari Gars called "Carnivale". Do stop by and check out this neat town! <br/> <br/>Nederland, Colorado - 17 miles west, up the canyon from Boulder. This town has old to young hippies from all over the country. Very awesome music scene for a little mountain town (Leftover Salmon, etc...). "Majical place." "Very kind in many ways." <br/> <br/>Paonia, Colorado - is a Hippie Haven from way back. In fact all of the hippies in Boulder that didn't become wealthy yuppies (and some that did) are now in Paonia and have been for <br/>quite some time. Paonia is on the western slope of Colorado. It still is an affordable place to live for hippies, unlike Boulder. We even have a person in the next town over, Hotchkiss, who is named Hippy Lereaux (quite an infamous character, a real outlaw). <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Connecticut <br/>Ellington, Connecticut. "Because, like there's a lot of hippies here - it's a real trip man." <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Delaware <br/>Newark, Delaware - this place is the home of the University of Delaware. "Tons of hippies here. Most live on Madison which consists of apartment/townhouses and this friendly group is very intelligent and KIND." <br/> <br/>I would have to agree with everything that the previous person said. But, the town is very small, and there is not all that much to do in the way of nightlife and entertainment and there are a lot of annoying frat boys who drive around in jeeps and chuck things at people. The drug scene is somewhat unstable here, there is a lot of laced and bad stuff, gotta be careful! <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Florida <br/>Orlando, Florida - "Gainesville is not all the bomb that you say it is. it is not the "hippy capital" of phlorida. there are kydz there cause there is a college. that's it. just a college. if there were no college, the town would be non-existent. there are some nice kydz there, but no family. they have some good shows maybe once a month. i live in Orlando. it is mofuckin awesome! i have lived in many places and for about 6 mos. in different places in phlorida. The "hippy capital" is definitely St. Augustine. SUCH A fabulous family!! there's a beach, there's plenty of places to sell crafts on the street all year round. there's tons of cool shit like an old fort that you can trip around in and plenty of kynd folks. not much of a nightlife unfortunately. They never have big name bands. Orlando on the other hand is a mecca. we get awesome shows here pretty regularly. we've got the house of blues, we've got a university, we're an hour from the beach, an hour from Daytona Beach, not much further from Gainesville, a little less from St. Augustine. we've got the big ekon river. two drum circles every week. we've got the Orlando family. we've got the hippy hole." <br/> <br/>Key West, Florida - "Despite the commercialism, the boat people and street performers, still living the good life. The town is tolerant of long hairs and pot is available from Jamaica. Love the town but there are some drawbacks." <br/> <br/>St. Augustine, Florida. It is a HUGE hippy hangout town. Rain or shine, you can always go down to St. George Street and find street musicians, vendors, and tons of cool kids just hanging. There are drum circles at the fort every week. Also, tons of hippy stores, like Gyspy's Moonrose (they have the best jewlery!) and Dreamstreet, a book store that has couches and stuff to chill on. And everybody there is friendly, you can just go up and talk to random people... some of them turn out to be really interesting. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Georgia <br/>Atlanta, Georgia - "There is a certain area in Atlanta that is known as Midtown which houses an area known as Little Five Points. This is truly the hippie haven of the south - or at least Georgia. In this little portion of town there are many body art and vintage shops, including a favorite of the locals called Groovy Girls. Other odds and ends are sold around here such as African drums, futons, and crystals. Just like the goods that are sold here, the people are an assorted mixture as well. New age Flower Children, aging Flower Children, skateboarders, and Rastafarians line the streets daily. Drum circles are common practices here. Little Five Points and the nearby Piedmont Park also host the Pot Festival every year." <br/> <br/>Savannah, Georgia - is great. There are a few colleges there, including Savannah College of Art &amp; Design, so there is a nice community. They have lots of festivals all year. The weather is nice, especially in spring. It is old &amp; historic. Beautiful houses, churches, apartments. It's easy to walk around (hard to drive), tons of huge trees, statues. All types of stores, second-hand shops, restaurants, coffeehouses. Lots of movies have been made there, some books. Artists are all over. It's on the river, a short drive to the ocean. Near the South Carolina border, 'bout 2 hours north of Florida. The people are so nice, &amp; it's real easy to find something to do. Just walk around, you'll see people. Liberty Street is the main street w/coffeehouses &amp; good, mellow restaurants. Be sure to get a map, though, because it's easy to get lost, &amp; avoid "new" Savannah, it's suburban, like any other town. You can find cheap motels near the interstate, or in the next town south. <br/> <br/>savannah is a beautiful, diverse community. it's easier to walk than drive around, beautiful "squares" which are little parks in the middle of the roads. there are veggie places, &amp; you can <br/>drink in public, on the roads &amp; all. i went to the art school's sidewalk art fest last year (every april), had so much fun, tons of music, &amp; got to see a free show, laying out on the grass, emmy lou harris. you can see artist, painters, photographers, &amp; writers all over, lots of old bookstores, <br/>cementaries, antique shops, you name it. there is your share of tourist, but it is worth it. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Hawaii <br/>Big Island and Kauai - Lots of growers here. Scene is low key and laid back. Communes around. On Big Island, the hippies are all in the Puna District mainly in the Pahoa area from Kalapana to Pahoa and from Pahoa over to Volcano. <br/> <br/>Maui, Hawaii - Still full of hippies living on the slopes of Haleakela, the dormant volcano, in places like Kipahulu, Kula, Hana, Paia. You'll need a few gold cards to visit here. This scene is expensive. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Idaho <br/>Moscow, Idaho - "You will find some of the most absolutely wonderful people there! Besides the people, Moscow is the Mecca of outdoor activities and being one with nature and life." <br/> <br/>Stanley, Idaho - the towns population is 69 doesn't that say it all. Located 110 miles north of Boise. Beautiful lakes, hiking trails, sawtooth mountains, laid back people, hot springs, lots of drumming and lots of love. Unbelievable town to go check out! <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Illinois <br/>Chicago, Illinois - The ground is so fertile here in Illinois that when you drop a nickel it turns into a quarter before you pick it up. You'd imagine there'd be plenty of hippys and longhairs crawling all over Illinois, right? Nope, not really. You'll find some transplants downstate at the universities but mostly you'll find 'em up in Chicago. With plenty of health food stores, hemp shops and tons of yoga centers, there's a nice underground network of hippie folk. The best hangout for hippies I've seen is a place called Healing Earth Resources up on the north side (Ashland &amp; Belmont) that deals in your usual clothes &amp; music as well as being a great central hub for a lot of hippie-minded communities. <br/> <br/>Makanda, Illinois - It's way out there among hills in a forrest,but onceyou set foot on the "sidewalk" of the town square (which is barely anything)you notice the overall atmosphere of art. The place SCREAMS hippie haven!! It's a calm,peaceful town,it's creative and close to nature,a favorite for me!! And nearby is a grate collage town,Carbondale,Il. it's big and booming,but if your in the right part of town you run into some groovy stuff. There's a wonderous hippie hang out cafè with alot of college kids working there who are into the all natural hippie way of life. There's local artwork on the walls,alot of food for thought. There's a vietnam poet who hangs out in the back dining room of the cafè with long hair and a beard,but kind eyes. And the next room toward the back is the 'Babba Shop' which is very middle eastern,lots of clothes, prayer shawls, philosophy books.....which i didn't really get into. But for that type of hippie...it's prob'ly heaven. LOL behind that is a vintage clothing shop.... <br/> <br/>Also a great college town is Charleston,Il. There's a head shop called absolutely 4th street <br/>records(on 4th street)and a bar or something called the rabbit hole. And a shop called the Alice Emporium or something like that. <br/> <br/>Waukegan, Illinios - Has a "hippie college" in the least likely of places - Shimer College is one of THE most liberal of colleges and no one in the world seems to know about it. There are no lecture classes, we discuss books (actual sorces, no textbooks that have been biased by someone elses' ideas) in groups of 12 or less. People here are allowed to live as they please and most importantly to think as they please. The education is as liberating as the lifestyle. The most kickass thing about Shimer is that its not just hippies, all kinds of wierd people hang out here and are accepting of each other. Its a hippie commune like you've never seen, I promise. <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Indiana <br/>Bloomington, Indiana - "This town has a modest, but decent, hippie community. At 4:20 (p.m.) at a park on 9th Street, there is a drum circle. Also a cafe/restaurant called the Runcible Spoon is visited by many hippies and other interesting people. A few hippies (roughly 6) work there as well. The restaurant is located on 6th Street downtown. Across the back parking lot of this restaurant is a little natural foods Co-op store called Bloomingfoods, where many hippies are employed, and where most hippies buy all their essentials. On Kirkwood Avenue, the most active part of the downtown, there is a little shop called the Dharma Emporium, owned and frequented by lots of groovy people. On Walnut Street, there lies a shop called the Magic Bus, owned and operated by a bunch of hippies that live in the back; kind and gentle folk. Also, the town of Bloomington is mostly liberal, and there are a lot of interesting people. Just stay away from the west side of town: this is a "thriving" commercial part of town with no trees and a lot of new subdivisions. Bad, bad, bad." <br/> <br/>Broad Ripple, Indiana - a suburb of Indianapolis. I almost didn't mention this one, except you've listed Bloomington and that is a MAJOR college-party city, and Broad Ripple is the same way with all of the bars. I can tell you, though, that there are a plethora of vintage stores all in a row and there is also a Magic Bus and a Grateful Threads. There are a lot of ethnic restaurants to fit all budgets, a lot of local bands come play, there is an annual art festival in the warmer months and there is a nice little picnic park an a hill on the river. The Monon trail- popular walking/riding trail that goes through much of central Indiana, goes right by the Ben and Jerry's, and there is a nice health food store with lots of organic fruits to eat while you're out and about. This place is used to meeting and seeing "hippies" and they are very welcome, along with anyone else who comes along. An ideal place for a sunny day. <br/> <br/>Needmore, Indiana - "This is a tiny, tiny place way, way out in the boonies, but an ideal location for a commune, wouldn't you say? Yes, Lothlorien is the name of the place and is just south of Bloomington a ways. Lothlorien is the beautiful location of many festivals throughout the year, and they have an open season during which space can be reserved for celebrations. Lovely, lovely place. Their website is: http://www.kiva.net/~elf " <br/> <br/>New Harmony, Indiana - TOTALLY peaceful and a prefectly friendly and historic enviroment. In the middle of town there is a beautiful garden with benches,completely fenced in like an oasis. I always walk bare foot in that town,in new harmony there is no other way to do it that gives you the full force of the peace there. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Iowa <br/>Quad Cities, Iowa - "We have started a small hippie community. Our Rainbow Family has potlucks every other Sunday campouts every month or so." <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Kansas <br/>Lawrence, Kansas - The place is very chill and down to earth. As much as marijuana seems to be a symbol of hippydom, i would have to say that Lawrence grows some of the finer buds in the states, of course next to Oregon and Boulder. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>The Rainbow Gathering - This movable community gathers for a few weeks each year in some remote location. Check out their web page for more info. <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Kentucky <br/>Louisville, Kentucky - - "Bardstown Road is a large street where you can not only find hippies, but every kind of person there is. The best parts of Bardstown Road stretch for about 3 miles. It's lined with eclectic shops, head and hemp and beads and vintage clothing...as well as vegetarian cuisine. It's a great place to just take a walk. It really does look like it's straight out of 1968. There are great coffee shops with outdoor cafes, "gently used" book stores, instrument and record shops, head shops, vintage clothing stores, specialty stores and everything in between. It's absolutely the best place in Louisville to visit!!!" <br/>"There is a happy thriving hippie community here. Cherokee Park is home to many drummers and smokers. This city also has a solid gay community, and a well-known affinity for birthing original bands--there are very many opportunities for budding musicians to meet like-minded folks...Also many poets and artists claim Louisville for their home. It is groovy." <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Louisiana <br/>Louisiana's got a Hippie Haven in the forgotten little village of Abita Springs. The town is located on the northshore of Lake Pontchatrain, about 40 miles north of New Orleans. Once a resort for turn-of-the-century New Orleanians who wanted to flee the summer heat and yellow fever of the city, the old hotels and cottages remained, long after the tourists stopped coming. During the 1970's hippies moved in to the old houses to raise children, make art in community, and swim naked in the cool artesian water. At one point there were 16 jewelry artists living in this town of 1200, and the old "Longbranch Hotel" was a celebrated hippie commune and sight of now mythic hippie parties and gatherings. Today, we have a funky folk art museum, a microbrewery, a town shadow play, a monthly blue grass hootenanny called "The Piney Woods Opry" held in the old town hall, and the most thoughtful "controlled growth" plan of any northshore community. But there are lots of hippies and coffee house scenes sprinkling the northshore, Covington's Columbia Street Grocery, Mandeville's Java Grotto, and I don't know if they qualify as hippies, but damn near everyone gets stoned in Lacombe. Hippies new and old have a loose affiliation of spirit thriving on the northshore. We'll see if it can survive the rampant development and violent loss of greenspace that's occuring as thousands flee suburban New Orleans to build and live here. <br/> <br/>Maine <br/>Industry, Maine - "Plenty of old hippies, die hard hippies, new hippies and a bunch of drunk ones too you. Ever hear of Hempstock? That's in the town right next to us. Then Harvestfest isn't too far away either." <br/> <br/>Ogunquit, Maine - Ogunquit is an artsy/funky town 66 miled north of Boston. We have a thriving alternative community (Approx 25% are gay). Lots of coffee shops, gay bars and gay guesthouses. <br/> <br/>Starks, Maine - "Home of the annual HEMPSTOCK. More than 30 bands will play through-out the weekend of August 14th...many local bands.......There were no reported arrests last year !!!! And everyone is Hippie like up there in Maine anyway..." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Maryland <br/>Mount Rainier, Maryland - "A funky little town near DC that literally hasn't changed since the 60's. Or if it has, the resemblance has gotten even closer. Since there's a major African American presence it has a somewhat Rastafarian ambiance. Check out the Glut Food Co-op (started by Marxists in 1969), the Eye Opener coffee shop (owned by a Deadhead) and the used furniture / alternative health stores. Possibly the cheapest place you can live between the mountains and the Chesapeake, if you're a hippie." <br/> <br/>Ocean City, Maryland - You don't need a car. You can ride the bus all day, on &amp; off, for a dollar, and during the summer it runs all nite long. Everything you need is in walkin distance. There is a great boardwalk where you can buy all sorts of things, play games, ride rides, get piercings, hair wraps, &amp; henna tattos. It is very diverse, all sorts of stores, and they have good sales. Lots of hemp &amp; beach bum clothing. It's easy to find a job. You legally have to get a permit now, but there are people playing their guitars at nite along the boardwalk. The cops go in spurts about how they treat people. I've never had a problem, &amp; I've only seen them warn others about the <br/>permit. It is definitly somewhere to check out. There is only one campground, but I think that's where I'll be this summer. <br/> <br/>Takoma Park, DC/Maryland - "Takoma Park is known as the Berkeley of the East. Competitors, we're more modest than that, please challenge us to greatness. DC is famous for being the most politically liberal big city, but then it's also famous for being the nexus of the Counter-Counter-Culture (it's actually hip to be drug free here, though you can do just about anything in public and still get elected to high office), so you may be wondering, where do hippies fit in? As it happens, Takoma Park is not the sad, commercialized, isolated enclave of hipness that you find in most big cities. It is at the geographic heart of a wreath of easygoing, progressive, really racially integrated, communities. Which is why we've escaped gentrification and "hip"-ization &amp; remain a low-key, 70's style small town. White-bread hipsters with racial jones beware. <br/>Hippiedom here is not about commercial lifestyle. It's part of the culture. Nobody moves here for the shopping or arts, but very large percentages of the populations are vegetarians, recyclers, renters, non-car owners, members of the two co-ops. We cheer on the annual Reel mower Brigade in their efforts to ban gas lawnmowers. To benefit our large illegal alien population, who can vote, we have a tradition of hiring police chiefs committed to not cooperating with the IMF. Bizarrely, we're also a mecca for evangelicals and libertarians who share a similar political zeal and fondness for natural food - one of the organic co-ops is the world's largest Christian book store, and the other is staffed by ex-Maoists. There aren't many tensions in the community, though. Our favorite mayor was a ninety yr. old Socialist. Anyhow, we used to have two wild roosters, but one got run over. You can hear the other one crowing behind the boarding houses downtown, between the House of Musical Traditions and the Metaphysical Chapel, on the spring solstice when the Foggy Bottom Morris Men gather to dance the sun up. <br/>Definitely a community for longtime residents &amp; hippies-at-heart; fair-weather hippies will get bored and move to some overrated part of DC. We've already got too many yuppies, most of whom were still hippies before they moved here and got a job teaching at the Jane Goodall Institute or Nuclear Environmental Research group or something similar in town, so I guess they're okay." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Massachuesetts <br/>Amherst, Massachuesetts - "Home to the annual "Extravaganja" festival, Amherst residents are about to vote on a decriminalization of marijuana referendum. Amherst boasts a huge student population -- from Amherst College, Hampshire College, and UMass-- and is less than 10 minutes from Northampton, another hippy haven. Great concerts and shows, wonderful cheap restaurants, and an extremely liberal community." <br/> <br/>UPDATE: Just wanted you to know that us residents in amherst ma have voted on the decrimilization of marijuana and won.....! <br/> <br/>Northampton, Massachuesetts - "Great place for hippies and hippie-types. Tolerant largely gay community welcomes "alternative people". Love the place! Lots of hippie shops and restaurants too!!" <br/> <br/>West Newbury and Newburyport, Massachuesetts - "are filled with tons of young hippies. In Newburyport there are a lot of cool little coffee houses located on an old 1800 waterfront. Many places to toke up and everything is always readily available. People such as Toots and the Maytalls, Livingston Taylor (James' bro) and David Grisman have performed in this small town." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Michigan <br/>Ann Arbor, Michigan - "There is a Hash Bash every year there and so many hippies come. Ann Arbor is a great place." <br/> <br/>Grand Rapids, Michigan - is a cool place to be. Here resides Another Shakedown Street, Purple East, Little Bohiemia, Raven Nest, Spirit Dreams, Scavenger Hunt, Flashbacks, and tons of other shops, restaurants. There is a large percentage of hippies in different parts of the cities. Easttown is one of them and the NW side of GR. No be-ins, but its nice. <br/> <br/>Saugatuck, Michigan - "This is truly a hip community, located along the shores of beautiful Lake Michigan, surrounded by picturesque sand dunes. Saugatuck is the epicenter of many western Michigan coastal communities offering a very laid-back chilled atmosphere, and amongst the population you will find an immense multitude of artists and a majority of open-minded people. The downtown is very eclectic, with many far-out shops, including the popular Shakedown Street, offering a variety of Grateful Dead and hippy-related merchandise. Coffee shops are also quite abundant here. There's also a lot of very cool natural attractions, such as Mt. Baldhead and Oval Beach. The entire scene here reeks of peace. I must say that this town is the ultimate chill-spot." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Missouri <br/>Cape Girardeau, Missouri - very cool riverfront nights, locals are kind, small communes everywhere very green year round, local music scene is huge. <br/> <br/>Columbia, Missouri - Downtown Peace Park and Peace Nook <br/> <br/>St. Louis, Missouri - "There is a substantial hippie community that exists on St. Louis' South Side around the area of South Grand Avenue. There is also another older, but growing hippie enclave in a close-in suburb of St. Louis. Known as the University City Loop along 10 blocks of Delmar Boulevard, the area is hopping with hippie-run shops and vendor stands." <br/> <br/>Another Opinion: Bullshit.I lived there for 10 yrs on and off and ya I meet some cool people (every place has em) but The Dirty BASTARDS tryed to give me 30 yrs for cultivation. 14 little plants, less than 5 grams. I'm a 3 time loser, but I hadn't been locked up in 17 yrs. I just thought since You people were trying to guide people to where the Kynd Folks are St.Louis and or Missouri ain't it. The Law there are about the Money and Crooked, definitly stay out of Jefferson County south of St.Louis <br/> <br/>Westport, Missouri - "Missouri has more then two hippy hangouts (gasp!). Westport's a very cool place. It has head shops, VW buses, and lots of drugs." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Montana <br/>Missoula, Montana - "...is a hip place with many hippies. Its population is small so everything is laid back. It's very similar to Eugene Oregon, but without the rain. There are a lot of hippy stores and vegetarian restaurants. The town lies over a pretty river and is next to a large mountain so many people hike, bike, hunt shrooms and river raft. Missoula is also the home of Plunker, one of the founders of the Rainbow Nation." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Nebraska <br/>Lincoln, Nebraska - is so full of hippies, hippie families, and hippie hangouts that you cannot roam the steets without running into one of us! Highly recommended to any relocating hippies. <br/> <br/>Omaha, Nebraska - "...is a pretty phun li'l town. Pretty good family. There are NO CLUBS there, so those annoying clubkids are not even present (woo-hoo!). They'll introduce you to a real rave, which everyone should experience. Omaha also has the oldmarket which is downtown and a fun place to hang out day and night with a park to the east, the Big Slides (extreme amounts of child-like fun) on the north, the abandoned warehouses are also right near where the parties rage at night. Lots of grassroots organizations are sprouting up. Definitely worth checking out if you're traveling through to Boulder or somewhere." <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Nevada <br/>Las Vegas, Nevada - Yes, even the neon tribute to tinseled affluence is a hippie hangout. The area adjacent to UNLV is "loaded" with shops, pubs and music stores. A Las Vegas staple: "Legends" caters to the deadhead crowd, as well as the "Hard Rock Hotel", a must see while in Las Vegas. A major head shop, Tobacco Road, is always worth a visit. Finally, the Las Vegas Ski and Snowboard Resort hosts a blues festival in the summer which is great up at 7,500 feet. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>New Mexico <br/>Las Cruces, New Mexico - In southern new mexico, very different fron the northern part of the state, very easy going without the worries of inflated costs of living. We are surrounded by the organ mountains and within a hours drive of the lincoln andd the gila mountains as well as white sands national monument . A large sized co-op is available along with herb shops and many friendly faces. las Cruces is a very kind place to live without the annoyance of trust fund artists like Santa Fe! <br/> <br/>Madrid, New Mexico - is way laid back and nothin but hippies live there its budifull there. <br/> <br/>Silver City, New Mexico - is a small hippy mecca. They have loads of herbal stores in the city with "classes" on locating and identifying local herbs. Their co-op bulletin board is loaded with new age info. They have drum circles and a number of communes within 25 miles of the city, some better than others. Don't forget to ask about the hot springs. <br/> <br/>Taos, New Mexico - "I went to Taos, New Mexico last summer and found the place swarming with beautiful people. There are a few communes right outside of town... where Easy Rider was filmed. Lots of freaks around and so much to learn from each other... ecstacy. A bit touristy, but not yet too corrupt with society." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>New York <br/>Fulton County, New York - Located 40 min. west of Albany, many hippies in the area which is at the base of the Adirondack mountains. Hemp fests, music fests, and some down to earth people have been a part of recent Fulton county history. Check out Johnstown, Gloversville, Ephratah, or Caroga Lake. Dank Budz 2 b found!! :) <br/> <br/>Ithaca, New York - "...has one of the largest hippie populations in New York State. It has natural beauty and is crawling with old and new hippies. It's home to many communes, head shops, natural groceries, drum circles, and kind bud. Ithaca has a sizeable college population." <br/> <br/>Naples, New York - kind of new age upscale town... I usually have an out of body experience when i smell all the grapes and nature at its best. <br/> <br/>New Paltz, New York - Home to State University of NY at New Paltz, this small town has a sizable hippy community as well as students. The young feeling is a refreshing change from upstate NY's older crowd. "There are just as many real hippies there as there are in Woodstock, N.Y. I know this because I am a long hair dreded hippy that lives near by both of these locations. The good thing about New Paltz is that it isn't nearly as hyped up as Woodstock. This provides for a nice relaxing atmosphere." <br/> <br/>Tonawanda, New York - "There is a lot of hippies in Tonawanda NY. We have protested so many times and when we used to be the Lumber Capital of the world, we made them stop cutting the trees down, and we saved a lot of trees." <br/> <br/>Another view: What tonawanda, ny a hippie haven?.... cut the crap... a town build mostly with post era ww2 mentality... closed factories, strip malls, no coffee shops and poor air quality.... jsut because you may have smoked a little here dosent make it nirvana... <br/> <br/>Trumansburg, New York, 20 mins. from Ithaca.It's home to the annual hippie fingerlakes Grassroots music fest! Iit's also home of the Rongovian Embassy Bar and Restaurant which is always happy to host Dead cover bands and any other kind scene. <br/> <br/>Woodstock, New York- Not the actual location of the famous festival (that is Bethel, N.Y.), and a bit of a tourist trap, but yes, lots of hippies live here. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>North Carolina <br/>Asheville, North Carolina - "...is undoubtedly one of the kindest places on the East Coast. Nice nuggets, a lively and experimental music scene, and the overall friendly atmosphere make this town a must for nomadic freaky friends! I'll see you when I roll through town." <br/> <br/>"One thing i have noticed over the past few years is that the hippies have gotten richer. a lot are weekend hippies now! there are a lot of unique and awesome people here, and then again there are a lot of rich people too..." <br/> <br/>Boone, North Carolina - Nestled in the blue ridge parkway, it is a quiet mountain town full of peace, love and hemp. A wonderful place for hippies to go.not only do they have great nugs there but they also get some off the wall trip.its also very peaceful and u dont have to worry bout the police. :) <br/> <br/>Cooleemee, North Carolina - is a small town but we have a gathering place called the bull hole which is a dam.. people gather and relax and free their mind ....lots of weed smoking here...lots of hippies here that have grown up here and stay all their life...it is a great town come and visit. <br/> <br/>Wayensville, North Carolina - I have never been to a place such as this. They literally worship 60's music. Such as, Jonis Joplin,Lynard Skynard,The Steve Miller Band and others. It is probably a 60's town also and needs to be placed in your map of hippie places. The people have long hair,dress in flares and hippie clothing. <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Ohio <br/>Yellow Springs, Ohio- (east of Dayton) pop. 10,000 "Home of the Ivy League Antioch College, head shops, hemp and Earth Friendly clothing and jewelry stores, several music stores (one specializing in hand made drums) and several specialty gift stores. One of Dayton's biggest hippie hangouts." <br/> <br/>Columbus, Ohio - pop. 2,500,000. High Street @ Ohio State University (Largest University in the US, 70,000 students) dozens of head shops, 100's of specialty stores including 50 record and tape stores (tons of used) dozens of hemp clothing stores. <br/> <br/>UPDATE: Many of the head shops are being forced closed because the campus area is becoming "revitalized" (read: influx of money, respectability, and high price residences and stores). Also, the Police Department issued a warning to Columbus citizens and business that Phish was a "cult" and to avoid serving those that were in town for the concert. Columbus is fast becoming an anti-hippy haven. <br/> <br/>Waynesville, Ohio - "Near Fairborn. The Renaissance Festival. Hippies everywhere you look and lots of stuff about medieval times.... you can buy clothes and different things. It's a great place to meet people and everyone shares everything." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Oregon <br/>Just about Any city in Oregon West of the Cascade Mountians is a Hippy Haven. Oregon is the only state where hippies enjoy a majority at the voting booths come election time. There's a saying going around "Hippies dont die. They just move to Oregon. During the past few years hippies have been moving to Oregon in droves because there's employment for hippies here, and we hippies can go full out in our glad rags in public veiw with out being accosted, laughed at or put down. Oregon is a true hippy Haven. Under an oz. of pot isnt illegal here. It's only a civil fine that would cost you $500. <br/> <br/>The Cascade Range is full of small towns that have been the last refuge of the hippies since the 70ies. All of these little towns are lawless.And have a long stading hippie tradition. Towns Like <br/>Alpine, Deadwood (Where the Rainbow Families Alpha Farm is), Falls city, Summit, Berkenfield (Near Portland), Harlan (Behind the Native American Sacred Mountain Marys Peak) Nashville (Where all the Bands just have to stop). Just grab a Map and you can find an old hippie settlement any where in the coast range. <br/> <br/>UPDATE: Beware, we now have zero tolerance laws concerning the possession of smoking "greenery." MANY EX-HIPPIE COPS! All the good spots are not on your list to live check out Tiller, Trail, Shady Cove, Prospect, Ashland. Lots of trees, good people, and fun in the sun or snow! <br/> <br/>Ashland, Oregon - 20 minutes over the northern Calif. border. Ashland is a collage town with <br/>lots of shopping, parks, theater, art and of course outdoor activites. Camping, fishing, winter skiing, water skiing. Lots of free places to parking lot camp or in the great outdoors. Tons of Hippies, young and old. <br/> <br/>The hill and valley environs of Ashland Oregon speaks to the hippie mind with an eastern slope of lush greens created by flowing water contrast by rolling oak cover hills to the West. Under the cover of a celestial sky. Like a garden in the sun, Ashland has long born the fruit of many artists and seekers. Give time to Ashland and you will experience a living museum of the movement that predates that of the Haight. <br/> <br/>Ashland is hands down the most magical, incredible and delicious country in oregon (just my humble opinion of course!). lithia park is a trippers delight, filled with duck ponds, a human sized rat wheels to play on, trees of every family and a gazillion and a half hiking trails for you and your pals to discover! on any given day you will see little billows of smoke arise and big, wandering eyes enthralled in all natures majesty. i cant say enough about this wonderful place filled with beauty, spirit and the best vibe you can possibly imagine! if you do take a road trip on over, you must check out evo's downtown. its hip beyond belief, not that every place in ashland is not, but it is a hippie lovers delight! peace to you all, and i hope your paths will someday lead you to this breath of fresh air! <br/> <br/>Breitenbush Hot Springs, Oregon - This wonderful getaway nestled in a very green, very magical forest deep in the Cascade range, is a must for anyone passing thru. A hippie secret for decades, it's a great retreat, where you can treat yourself to the therapuetic springs or signup for one of their special events. You should make reservations if you plan to stay overnight or get into one of their many programs. <br/> <br/>Corvallis, Oregon - Corvallis, Oregon has a lot of hippies. There are so many coffee shops and bookstores to see them at. The waterfront is a wonderful place to sit and enjoy if you are a hippy. <br/> <br/>Eugene, Oregon - Site of the Oregon Country Faire (each July) where each year hippies gather to celebrate their hippiness. Home to the University of Oregon, many co-operatives, communes galore, a real cool Saturday Market, and eco-consciousness. <br/> <br/>UPDATE: I wanted to let you know that the Oregon Country Fair WAS a wonderful hippy flavor type hang-out once a year (or often if you know the old owners). Well, the new owners are a little different now. They now let cops in undercover and not, onto private property to gather local revenue of happy-hippy trippers and such. JUST AN FYI....wouldn't want any wonderful people to go with the impression that the old hippy extraordinaire still owned and operated the scene!!! <br/> <br/>Grants Pass, Oregon - There are still active communes including an artists commune, the largest open air market in S. Oregon, 30% cottage industry for a variety of wares, a good amount of organic farms, great music and meetings of the mind, a lot of eco-consciousness and a liberal attitude (we outwaited the right wingers and loggers). <br/> <br/>Porland, Oregon - is a wonderful place that is very tolerant of hippie-types. Plenty of great people, and home to some great places, such as the nationally famous Saturday Market, a great place to meet people and just chill on the waterfront. <br/> <br/>Ive been all around this country and Portland OR is the most beautiful city Ive ever seen....the people r welcoming know matter what u look like...and Hippies r more welcome than most...Saturday market draws some of the most unique people Ive ever met...but it is a great place for families as well...u can get almost any groovy hippy gear u want, as well as art from all over the world...waterfront is were most hippies hang out...ther r drum circles, smoking circles, its the best place to get rave flyers...and the vibe is very laid back. There is majik here...anyone whos been here will agree with me...it is so close to every part of nature here..the ocean, forests, <br/>mounts...Oregonians love &amp; live with mother nature &amp; not on her. so come one come all hippies to OR...its the most fullfilling place to end up! <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Pennsylvania <br/>Theres a place in PA. called New Hope. There are a whole lot of hippies there lots of shops. A it's on a river and theres a smaller one within it. Many many shops alot of artwork, nice places to eat (Places you can eat lunch outside by the river and exotic flavour ice creams). <br/>new hope is. home to many hippies and artists, and in general open-minded people. it's very pretty, with waterways throughout the town. lots of cool stores - hemp, body piercing &amp; tattoos, hippie clothes, excellent restaurants, and great ice cream on the waterfront - green tea flavor is unreal! a great place to hang out for the day. <br/> <br/>Philadelphia area (i.e. suburbs, n.j., d.e.) has quite a sizeable hippie population, but as it is a massive area, you won't usually see too many at one time. during the summer, we all come out of the cracks to enjoy drum circles at the art museum, although they were invaded last summer by stupid nitrous kids and got busted all the time by the cops. also, in the end of august the philadelphia folk festival takes place about an hour outside the city, and man is it beautiful. so many beautiful, wonderfully friendly people, crafts, food vendors, incredible music like dar williams, the wrigley sister, and tempest. you can go swimming in a creek a short walk from the campground! also a nice paved trail to walk down. it's a family feeling since only about 5 or 6,000 go every year. definitely worth going to!!!! <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>South Carolina <br/>Charleston, South Carolina - is a very hippie friendly communnity with a couple small communes in james island and king street downtown offers the kindest of nugs and greatest of brothas and sistahs. It is the coolest, most layed back town, with the nicest people. Downtown Charleston has stores such as Loose Lucy's, Exchange Factor Five, Black Mineral Market and Ben and Jerry's Ice Cream. Within the college, College Lodge (dorm) was featured in "High <br/>Times Magazine" as one of the most drug affiliated dorms in the U.S. <br/> <br/>The Market in downtown Charleston, S.C. is an absolutely groovy place to be when it comes to hippies. Downtown Charleston also includes other great stores such as Granny's Goodies and the Exchange Factor. there are lots of good music stores in the area such as Manifest Disks and Tapes and for used Cd's the Exchange Factor is the place to be. the best restraunts in the area are Papillion (kinda expensive and upscale italian, but the best pizza buffet for lunch - whole wheat pizza cooked in a stone oven), Andoleni's Pizza (cheap good thin crust pizza), Moose Mountain (my favorite coffee shop), and my mom's cooking (will fatten any skinny hippie up). there is lots of live music at night until two, when all the bars close down. grab a free times from the Exchange Factor or anywhere Downtown, they usually have all the listings. also, just walking around downtown is great itself. there are lots of great art galleries to stick your head into. <br/> <br/>Hilton Head, South Carolina - Everybody on this li'l tourist island is flowing. There's a small, but vivid hippie population, who tend to gather at Looce Lucy's or Black Market Minerals in Coligny Plaza, and The Hemp Seed off Sea Pines Circle. Unless you're at the high school, nobody is a hassler. It's good as far as South Carolina goes, I'd say haul your asses down here for a little peace on the beach. <br/> <br/>Spartanburg, South Carolina - It's a medium size city in Upstate SC. I grew up on the east side with tons of hippies. Our parents were the original flower children and for the most part raised us in true hippie fashion. There isnt a lot for teenagers to do in SPartanburg, but we make do. One of our favorite places to hang out is Pill Hill, a park near the high school. Anyways Spartanburg is a nice city, kind of boring, but definitely full of hippies. <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Tennessee <br/>The Farm, Summertown, Tennessee - This commune founded by hippies including Stephen Gaskin, has pioneered the hippie communal lifestyle. Check out their website for more info! For a good history of The Farm see the Vegetarian Times story. <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Texas <br/>Austin, Texas - "the second largest vegetarian population in the nation....along with some great scenery here in the hill country. People should check it out. My older brother lives there, and works as a chef. Almost every night we get 2 or 3 bucks from each of his roommates, head up to Central Market and get tons of fresh fruit, vegetables, etc. - and have a giant veggie-kabob for dinner. It feeds everyone and also provides for a great way to get together at night in the backyard and just hang out. Barton Creek Park is another great hangout - it's a linear park that follows Barton Creek - along the cliff walls there are several caves for exploring... just a totally surreal environment. Everyone in Austin just seems so mellow and content, i wish i could live there - but for now I'll just be happy with visiting...." <br/> <br/>Denton, Texas - I recently moved here for school and was VERY pleased to find that there is a huge music scene here where a lot of fun-loving hippie types gather to have a good time. Everyone here that I have met are just great any hippie would feel at home <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Utah <br/>Hey, there are more than Mormons in Utah! Check out Moab sometime, you'll find plenty of hippies there! <br/>Sure there are Mormons in Utah, but hey!! Sugarhouse is like a little hippie commune! Every Sunday people of all ages to go Liberty Park for the drum circle. People sell homemade smoking accesories, hippie clothes and hemp jewelry! <br/> <br/>Springdale, Utah - At the entrance to Zion National Park is full of artists and other deadhead type shops, coffee bars and eclectic galleries. A true gem in southern Utah with the backdrop of Zion's multicolored cliffs and canyons. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Vermont <br/>Anywhere in Vermont There aren't that many hippies but there is weed everywhere!!! And a lot of other drugs. What else is there to do up here? <br/>Burlington, Vermont - "on Church Street is the coolest place to be. There's varieties of people including hippies, mostly new hippies. There's also a restaurant type place off Church Street called Necters, which is where all the bands eat when they come to play down the street at Club Toast. Necters serves the most addicting gravy fries you will ever eat. Bands such as Phish, Belizbeha, and tons of others eat there. There's also really cool places to shop, and there's a green which is the hippies grassy knoll." <br/> <br/>Woodbury, Vermont - is the Underground hippie love hole. tree upon tree of dripping nature. I think it sedates all the hippies to stay home and smile. but their here. oh, their here. Such a happy little community. <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Virginia <br/>Floyd, Virginia - "Having grown up in the Blue Ridge, I am fortunate enough to have been thoroughly familiarized with the hippie pilgrimage that has taken place since the early 70's.....and they're all still heading to Floyd county. I believe there must be upwards of 10 intentional communities up on the beautiful plateau where Floyd County is situated and the numbers are ever growing. The nice thing, too, is that the population is fairly consistent, that is to say that it's not really too transient. People go there and they tend to stay. It's amazingly beautiful, and I'm so glad that it's just right outside my back door." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>Washington <br/>"There is a large hippie community in Northeast Washington especially around the small town of Republic and Northern Stevens county." <br/> <br/>Bellingham, Washington -"This beautiful place is an island of hip folk in the Northwest." <br/> <br/>Olympia, Washington - "Old and young hippies hanging out among the earth and animal friendly paradise in the Northwest. Veggie restaurants abound." <br/> <br/>Orcas Island, Washington - "In the San Juan Islands. It's an old hippy commune where many hippies still go. It's a campsite so if you're looking for vacation, it's definitely the place." <br/> <br/>Seattle, Washington - "I moved here two years ago from LA and find this town to be the most hip place on the west coast. From Fremont to Belltown, from Pike Place to Capital Hill, Seattle is what's happening." <br/> <br/> <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/>West Virginia <br/>Morgantown, West Virginia - "Downtown on High Street and surrounding areas are two REALLY good head shops...The Den and Cool Ridge, several coffee shops, including The Blue Moose (the best bohemian coffee shop}. There's also a really good bead shop, comic shops, bike shops, and bunches of restaurants. In West Va. anywhere long hair is the norm, (I even worked at Monkey Wards w/shoulder-length hair) and there are lots of long-haired self-sufficient types living in the woods with sweat lodges, drumming parties, outhouses, log homes, herb gardens, and co-ops." <br/> <br/>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- <br/> <br/>Wisconsin <br/>Ashland, Wisconsin - It's in a small town of about 8,000 people. There's an Environmental Liberal Arts college there called Northland College. There's also a vegan coffeehouse called The BlackCat that is totally vegan and it's like the best environment for poetry and reading, or homework even-plus great organic food. Right next door there's a natural food co-op. All the college students are way nice and there are no cliques. It's like one huge family there. They also had a quasi/bluegrass/comedic/folk/rock/funk band there called the Sheeptones (but they broke up). They sung about environmental issues and I'm sure that they left a lasting impression. They even got a cd out. They have this community program with "Sunshine Bikes." It's to stop pollution and all and give people a better taste of community and sharing. It's a great place that has changed my life and it could for others! <br/> <br/>Madison, Wisconsin - "A beautiful downtown, with a beautiful university right on the lake, lots of housing co-ops, and really friendly and nice people. People from Wisconsin tend to be slightly dingy, and Madison is considered to be the craziest town in the state (it's also the state capital) - but it's the right kind of crazy, in my opinion. The only drawback is that it gets a little cold there in winter." <br/> <br/>"Madison is a VERY groovy place, and state street is chock full of head shops/coffee shops/every shop that deviates from the norm that you can think of......there is even a Nepali restaurant that I loved....also loads of interesting people throughout the town. I <br/>couldn't believe how many street performers I saw, there were devil-sticks flying everywhere and lone saxophonists filling up the empty alleyways, soothing your mind like a mental Halls cough drop." <br/> <br/>Milwaukee, Wisconsin - this town isnt full of hippies but its very laid back with great weeds...the east side of milwaukee on the lakefront tho is an area, mabye 5 or 6 square miles, of total hippyness...stree preformers are here, some rad head shops and the most awesome parties this side of madison, <br/>wi...and if you are not a dumb ass you can find a phat victorian house, like 4 stories, with real cheap rent... <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 4 replies </div>

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<div>DIY LOW COST HIGH MILEAGE HYBRID - Diesel or gas - (diesel lets you use veggie oil...=) <br/> <br/>the text of both articles can be found in this post, it seems the mother earthnews magazine is selling plans but considering the minds on <br/>this network and in your local community, that might not be necessary...the original article with IMAGES can be found here: <br/>http://www.motherearthnews.com/alternative_energy/1979_July_August/An_Amazing_75_MPG_Hybrid_Electic_Car# <br/> <br/>the original article is followed by the Mother Earth Upgrade response: <br/> <br/>by ROBERT W. MARSHALL <br/> <br/>With the price of gasoline already out of sight, just about everyone is scrambling for a way to squeeze the last possible drop of energy from each precious gallon. However, David Arthurs-of Springdale, Arkan sas-probably couldn't care less ... because he has designed and built a car that can travel 75 miles or more on just four quarts of the expensive liquid! <br/> <br/>What's his secret? Well, Dave's Opel CT is a hybrid electric vehicle. That is, the car is driven by an electric motor . . . but that powerplant's "juice" is generated with the help of an ordinary, fuel-stingy lawn-mower engine! Now the fact that the system works isn't really surprising. What's amazing is that the crossbreed hookup performs so well! According to David, the Opel has not only a virtually unlimited range (when driven prudently), but also a top speed of 90 miles per hour . . . and emits a minimum of pollutants as it tools along the highway. Better yet, the car can-if need be-run on its batteries alone for short in-town hops . . . and will never be "stranded" as long as there's fuel in the "on board" generator! <br/>WORLD WAR II TECHNOLOGY <br/> <br/>Mr. Arthurs is the first to admit that there's nothing "new" to the system he's developed . . . in fact, all the technology incorporated into his design has been available for about 35 years, just waiting for someone to put two and two together and make the whole thing work. "I began researching the idea for a hybrid electric auto about a year ago. There wasn't much information to be found on the subject, so I designed a system from scratch. In about a month's evening-and-weekend time, I had the car finished and running." <br/> <br/> <br/>Surprisingly enough, the project didn't cost a fortune, either. Because the vehicle's components are either standard "off the shelf" hardware or available as reasonably priced military surplus, the conversion to "hybrid drive" only set Dave back about $1,500. By the same token, any necessary replacement parts are easily obtainable . . . and a good deal of the equipment can be "scrounged" rather than purchased new. <br/>HOW IT WORKS <br/> <br/>In essence, David has utilized a small gas lawn-mower engine to drive a generator, which-in turn-supplies the vehicle's drive motor with electricity. To do so, he first removed the Opel's original power-plant and installed a 400-amp DC motor/ generator (actually a jet engine's starting motor) in its place. (Since there's no need for a clutch in Dave's setup, the stock unit was pulled out and the main shaft of the drive motor was fastened directly to the input shaft of the car's transmission.) Then, to provide a consistent source of power for this motor (and to supply an energy storage bank), the engineer installed four 12-volt, heavy-duty automobile batteries-in series-which are "fed" by a 100-amp generator that's run off a 5-horsepower lawn-mower engine. <br/> <br/>Of course, other components (such as relays, charging diodes, rectifiers, and an additional motor speed regulation circuit) are necessary to keep input and output power within optimum limits-and to allow full control of the vehicle at all speeds-but these are standard electrical parts which have been available for years. <br/> <br/>The engine-driven generator can handle the demand from the main motor up to speeds of about 50 miles per hour. The "stored" energy in the batteries comes into play at higher velocities, giving extra kick for passing and climbing hills. To guarantee that the charging system isn't overworked . . . Dave has rigged up a regenerative braking circuit which- in effect-turns the drive motor into a generator, to feed the batteries when the vehicle is decelerating. (This not only takes advantage of normally wasted energy, but also saves wear and tear on the car's conventional braking system.) Since the Opel's "stock" cooling apparatus has been removed, two small thermostatically controlled electric fans provide ventilation to the motor and generator as required ... while the gasoline engine is, of course, air-cooled by design. <br/>GROWING PAINS <br/> <br/>Any project fresh off the drawing board has its share of problems, and the Opel hybrid was no exception. When David pressed the accelerator for the first time, he got a 300-amp surge which melted his relays. So he searched his graduate texts for the answer ... and finally found it in-of all places-an old high school physics book: A pulser was necessary to "chop" the current flow and prevent a heavy initial draw to the drive motor. <br/> <br/>As Dave explains it, "The motor will always have full voltage and full current, but the pulser makes it 'think' the voltage and amperage are cut down to about 1/4 of what's actually available. With this gadget-which is simply a combination of a reworked car generator and an old fan motor-I can keep the draw within limits and effectively control the car's acceleration . . . without sacrificing the maximum current or voltage that's necessary for high-speed driving. I could have achieved the same results with a commercially available FCR control ... but one of those units would have cut my power slightly, and cost in the neighborhood of $800! I can build my own device for about $25, and I can fix it myself if it breaks!" <br/>AND IT'S REALLY PRACTICAL! <br/> <br/>Actually "piloting" the hybrid electric isn't much different from motoring in any conventional automobile. There's a slight hum from the electric motor, but the sound is certainly no more obvious than that of an internal combustion engine at speed. And-unlike many electric vehicles-the little Opel' really has some get-up-and-go . . . due to the fact that the converted car is only about 50 pounds heavier than its original 2,100-pound weight. <br/> <br/>Of course, some folks will question the idea of shifting without a clutch . . . but with the fully synchronized gearbox-this doesn't prove to be a problem at all (and the motor could be run through a conventional clutch with few complications). <br/> <br/>As far as the driving range is concerned, Dave points out that-if driven carefully the car can travel unlimited distances (as long as the generator engine continues to function) . . . because of the fact that the motor has a low draw at cruising speeds: only .23 amps at 1,800 RPM. Since the Briggs &amp; Stratton engine turns at a fixed rate and can generate 100 amps at about 28-1/2 volts, normal driving presents no problem. Hot or traveling in a very mountainous area-could, however, tax the car's charging system . . . but even these demands don't pose much of a problem, because the batteries can be brought from a 1/4 charge (the effective "dead" state, with a built-in safety factor) to a full charge in only 15 minutes. <br/> <br/>David Arthurs' electric Opel sounds almost too good to believe . . . and best of all, its circuitry can probably be adapted to just about any vehicle on the road today! It is true that small, lightweight cars are more easily "hybridized", but this same system will also work in a heavier auto . . . it could even be upscaled to suit one of the large American models. <br/> <br/>In short, Dave has succeeded in doing-for a lot less money-what countless government-funded researchers have failed to accomplish: building a passenger car that uses a minimum of energy. Now all he has to do is burn "homegrown" alcohol fuel in his generator engine . . . and Mr. Arthurs will have the most economical set of wheels in town! <br/> <br/>EDITOR'S NOTE: If you're discovering that you can't keep up with the high price of gasoline-and are willing to do something about it-you'll be pleased to know that MOTHER has made some special arrangements with David Arthurs. A set of detailed, easily understood plans will soon be available that will allow the average "backyard mechanic" to convert a conventionally powered automobile to hybrid electric drive. MOTHER's plans package includes schematic drawings, a components list-complete with manufacturers' names and part numbers-and a materials list . . . all put together in a fully explained, easy-to-follow packet. just send your name and address-along with $15.00-to Mother's., Plans, Hybrid Electric Car, P.O. Box A, East, Flat Rock, North Carolina 28726. <br/> <br/>All articles are reprinted just as they were published on the date indicated. Source listings, addresses and prices have not been updated; some details may have changed and terminology may be outmoded. <br/> <br/>In some cases the scanning software used to create the digital articles has introduced typos into the text. In particular, the software often translated fractions incorrectly, i.e. "1/2" now reads as "112". We are working to correct these errors. <br/> <br/>Issue # 65 - September/October 1980 <br/> <br/>In response to the many requests we've received for additional experimental auto information, here's... <br/> <br/>Mother's Own Hybrid Car! <br/>FAR ABOVE, LEFT: The Subaru's "engine room" now accommodates the main drive motor, several batteries, and various system controls. ABOVE, LEFT: The engine and generator fit comfortably in the trunk. ABOVE, RIGHT: MOM's hybrid hits the road! <br/> <br/> <br/>A little over a year ago we published an article (written by contributor Robert Marshall) that described an experimental hybrid electric automobile designed and built by an Arkansas electrical engineer named David Arthurs (see MOTHER NO. 58, page 160). In that piece, it was reported that Arthurs' vehicle (which used an on-board internal-combustion generator engine to provide "juice" to a battery bank, which—in turn—fed the car's electric drive motor) could not only travel 75 miles on a gallon of fuel, but had been converted to hybrid electric mode using just $1,500 worth of (mostly) government surplus parts! <br/> <br/>We also, at that time, made arrangements with Mr. Arthurs to produce under his careful eye—and to offer through the magazine—a set of plans detailing the procedures and parts used by the engineer in his automotive conversion. <br/> <br/>As a result of David's continued testing, suggestions from readers, and our own research . . . we soon discovered that the original magazine article was general enough to allow for some misconception. Furthermore, David pointed out—before we began work on the plans—that there were several technical errors in the original interviews. <br/> <br/>Considering these facts (and always bearing in mind that Dave's car was truly experimental, and that it was constantly undergoing design changes aimed at making it better), we all went out of our way to detail the jointly prepared plans that followed the original article . . . so that anyone attempting to build a hybrid vehicle could follow those instructions to determine—right from the start—exactly what components would be necessary for the car's successful operation, and could then "custom fit" the design (according to the plans) to suit his or her particular vehicle, terrain, and range requirements. <br/> <br/>However, a few folks (some of whom hadn't purchased plans and others who had and were seeking extra assistance) were still hungry for more hybrid data . . . and continued to call MOTHER and David, looking for tips. Now Mr. Arthurs has a full-time electronics business to tend to, and he simply wasn't able to conduct his regular research program, keep his business going, and answer the technical questions that came in. <br/> <br/>So we here at MOTHER decided to build our own version of the Arkansan's prototype—using the plans we had prepared with David's help to do so—in order to be able to answer, from the authority of firsthand experience, the many hybrid-related queries that came up. <br/> <br/>MOTHER BUILDS HER OWN <br/> <br/>For a good many months now, MOM's researchers have been conducting exhaustive tests—and compiling valuable data—on several different hybrid car versions . . . finally settling on a vehicle based upon a 1973 Subaru sedan for our "test unit". And despite the extremely mountainous terrain typical of our western North Carolina home (hills and hotrodding, as was explained in the original article and in the plans, can drastically reduce the effectiveness of a hybrid's charging and propulsion system), the vehicle performs well. In fact, we're so pleased with the car that we decided to report exactly what our hybrid has accomplished so far, and how we were able to make it achieve such results! <br/> <br/>As you read the following figures, keep in mind that our economy and performance tests were all done under actual road conditions . . . unfavorable though those conditions often were. At no time did we estimate or extrapolate range or mileage, or otherwise simulate any kind of driving condition. In short, we stuck to a straightforward, in-use analysis that was even more realistic than that used in the government's EPA mileage tests! <br/> <br/>Probably the first two questions anyone would want to ask about the experimental hybrid's performance relate to its fuel economy and range. Such considerations are, of course, directly influenced by [1] the choice of engine used to turn the charging generator, [2] the total weight of the car, and [3] the terrain and driving conditions the auto encounters. As explained in the plans package, the lighter the original vehicle, the more effective the hybrid electric (a term which, of course, refers to the fact that the batteries and the liquid-fueled engine work in combination) will be. Because of that fact, the plans suggest that anyone intending to build a hybrid first select the lightest chassis available . . . then go ahead and set it up as a strictly electric vehicle, and make test runs to determine current draws for that car. Armed with such relevant information, a builder would then be equipped to make the best possible choice of engines ... based upon horsepower, torque, and fuel consumption at a given RPM. <br/> <br/>In our case, the Subaru had a total weight—with batteries and 200 amp generating system on board—of approximately 3,000 pounds. Because of our area's terrain (which, as noted above, increases amperage draws considerably over what they might be during operation in a more level area), we found it necessary to add, as per the plans, six extra six-volt batteries . . . to provide additional storage capability. Our prescribed "electric only" testing then determined that we needed—again because of the steep up-and-down grades of most of our roads—an engine with a continuous rating (DIN) horsepower of about 9. For insurance, we finally settled on a plans—recommended 12.5 (DIN) horsepower Lombardini 720 diesel . . . and then set the impressive little powerplant to run at midrange, at which point it produced approximately the 9 horsepower our auto required. <br/> <br/>(Although David Arthurs' original 5-horsepower gasoline engine certainly did add to the range of his battery pack—and thus effectively "hybridize" his vehicle—over the comparatively flat Arkansas roads . . . such an engine would not have extended our hybrid's range enough beyond that of the batteries alone to justify its use.) <br/> <br/>Further testing enabled us to decide upon another "best choice" . . . this in the area of motor controls. Our experience with the "chopper" used by Dave on his prototype Opel hybrid indicated that the system might have a limited lifetime as a result of the sometimes extreme currents that passed through its brushes while in operation. So we read through the alternatives presented in the plans and—rather than fall back on a cost-prohibitive Silicon Controlled Rectifier (SCR) control—chose to utilize a voltage tap system to the field, rather than to the armature, to regulate the main motor's starting torque while still keeping the current passing through the control down to a comfortable 10 amps or so. <br/> <br/>By doing this, not only have we installed an inexpensive, so-far-effective regulating device (our system provides a progressive "stepping down" of field voltage from 30 to 18 to 6, governed by microswitches and operated by depressing the accelerator pedal), but we've also eliminated the need for all the car's high-amperage, high-cost relays . . . except the 400-amp main motor relay! (Our research now indicates that a two-step setup—30/24-volt—may be more practical and would provide more economy.) <br/> <br/>As another point of interest—especially for the convenience-minded—we found that, although it's quite possible to operate the hybrid without a clutch (as we did over the course of many hours of testing), the car's drivability is increased by installing one of the mechanical uncoupling devices. A clutch probably extends the life of the transmission gears and synchronizers, and also allows the removal of a reactor from the wiring circuit . . . a component which is nothing more than an electrical "shock absorber" used to control high voltage surges when no clutch is employed. <br/>Here's an unexpected bonus that resulted from our hybrid car research! <br/> <br/>Mother's 129-MPG Car! <br/> <br/>Between testing and improving the various hybrid electric car models, MOTHER's researchers have—as you can imagine—had plenty to keep them occupied over the past months. But they weren't too busy to devote time to another project that's something of a "horse of a different color": the design and construction—from the ground up—of a two-passenger, ultra-high-mileage diesel automobile. <br/> <br/>If there's one thing we've learned from working with the hybrid car, it's that reduced weight is a key factor in achieving increased fuel economy. Our goal, then, was to build a machine which weighed no more than 900 pounds ... and we ended up doing even better than we'd hoped! <br/> <br/>Motive power for our lightweight creation comes from a one-cyciinder, 6.4 (DIN continuous rating) horsepower Lombardini diesel engine, driven through a set of Salisbury clutches that allow for an infinitely variable gear ratio, governed by load. Final drive is at a fuel-saving 2.82-to-1 ratio, using a chain and sprocket system connected to the axle of the right rear wheel. <br/> <br/>MOTHER's roadster, in its present configuration, weighs in at just about 675 pounds . . . a figure we never imagined—several months ago—we'd be able to achieve. However, surprised as we were at the lightness of the machine, the real shock was the car's mileage: At this point, with the engine still as yet not broken in, we're getting as high as 129 miles per gallon in actual suburban driving . . . and we hope to improve that figure—and the vehicle's approximately 45-MPH top speed—as time goes on. <br/> <br/>Right now, though, we're working on body design, and—although the increased weight of a "shell" will add a few unwanted pounds—its wind-cutting configuration (not to mention the convenience and comfort it will provide to the driver and passenger) should completely offset any such disadvantages. We'll keep you posted on the developments of this project as they occur . . . in'the meantime, maybe we'll do some economy testing using vegetable oil as fuel! <br/> <br/> <br/>THE PROOF IS IN THE TESTING <br/> <br/>Once our Subaru was set up as described . . . and we had installed our final engine choice, which was still "tight" with only three hours on it ( the break-in time is from 30 to 50 hours), we achieved more than satisfying "mountain driving" results. With a fully charged battery pack and carrying 300 pounds of driver and passenger (anal running with open windows, stock tires, and various other "handicaps" not usually associated with high-mileage tests), the fuel economy over the course of our 78-mile test run (with help from the battery pack) worked out to 83.6 miles per gallon. of diesel fuel. The car's top cruising speed on level ground—in its 30-volt configuration—proved to be about 45 MPH . . . although we did hit 55 MPH on a slight downhill stretch. <br/> <br/>With the driver controlling the speed of the diesel generator engine, and trying to keep current draws below 200 amps whenever possible by shifting gears (and using the accelerator to vary field voltage) when necessary, the diesel engine—doing its "hybrid job"—more than doubled the range that would have been possible with the batteries alone! (And, of course, when the two separate "fuel systems" worked together, we achieved our best economy figures.) <br/> <br/>Furthermore, even with the battery pack fully drained and disconnected, we found it possible to motor along at a speed of 45 miles per hour on the generator engine alone. Under engine-only operation, we were still able to achieve 60.5 MPG . . . a figure which could increase by as much as 20% after the Lombardini breaks in. <br/> <br/>What all these numbers boil down to is this: When the car is operated in the hybrid mode (using both batteries and engine as it was designed to do), it's possible to achieve astounding fuel economy over a more than reasonable commuting distance. Any driving done beyond the 78-mile hybrid range would—in our vehicle under our test conditions—be at the expense of such excellent MPG figures . . . though the numbers wouldn't ever drop to quite as "low" as the 60 (plus) MPG possible using the generator engine alone. And, of course, as long as there's fuel in the on-board diesel, the car's total range is unlimited. <br/> <br/>BUT THERE ARE SOME LIMITATIONS <br/> <br/>The figures achieved during our testing vary from those that Robert Marshall reported were "racked up" by David Arthurs' original hybrid some months ago. Several of the discrepancies can likely be attributed to the differences in vehicles and propulsion system configurations, and others to the inequality of terrain involved. But there were several points made in that article that were inaccurate (as folks who ordered the plans, in which the errors were corrected, already know), owing to the fact that David's vehicle was then experimental and still under initial—and at times necessarily somewhat crude—testing. <br/> <br/>For one thing, it was reported in the original piece that Mr. Arthurs' drive motor had current draws of 23 amps at 1,800 RPM. In reality, the motors that we bench-tested at 30 volts had free-running draws of about 40 amps at 4,800 RPM . . . which—under load on the highway at 30 volts—increased to 100-150 amps on level ground at 30 miles per hour, with the car in third gear. <br/> <br/>Another point that needs some clarification is the statement, made in the article, that Arthurs' engine-driven generator could handle the demand from the main motor at speeds of up to 50 MPH, after which the energy in the batteries came into play. Our testing so far indicates that the generator, without the "hybrid" boost provided by the storage pack, is capable of propelling the car at around only 45 MPH and—at that velocity—doesn't produce enough surplus to significantly charge the battery bank. <br/> <br/>Which brings us to another point concerning performance of the vehicle: Dave's original car was set up to use a 24/48-volt system (an option emphasized in the plans) . . . in other words, the auto could be switched to the higher voltage to achieve greater speeds for passing and such. Making a switch to "48", however, increases amperage draws drastically (causing a corresponding reduction in the vehicle's range), and—since the batteries can't be charged at 48 volts—continuous travel at such speeds would be impossible. (Furthermore, though it was reported that Dave's speedometer registered 90 MPH on a gradual downhill grade, we feel that the drive motor would have had to be fed yet more voltage—at least on level ground—to achieve such an admittedly excessive speed.) <br/> <br/>The capability—mentioned in the original article—of using the on-board generator to charge the stationary vehicle in a short time, is another matter that deserves attention. According to Dave's gauges, his original hybrid Opel's batteries could be brought from 1/4 strength to a full charge in 15 minutes. This has proven to be a misleading reading, however. The meters were, we have found, actually indicating only a full surface charge (which wouldn't be able to power the car for long). In reality, the best way to renew the battery pack is by "trickle charging" . . . feeding the current at a rate of about 25 amps over a period of approximately 10 hours. <br/> <br/>DOLLARS AND CENTS <br/> <br/>The cost figures for the project, as David Arthurs itemized them, were absolutely accurate. However, the prices reflect costs as they stood more than two years ago, and inflation has since then taken its toll. What's more, the law of supply and demand—especially in the case of some of the limited-availability government surplus parts—has driven the cost of certain components (such as the 400-amp starter generator) up to triple what it was back then! <br/> <br/>Fortunately, with a straight "one-voltage" system—as used by MOTHER's car—some of the high-amperage relays can be eliminated and much money saved. However, anyone starting to build a hybrid today should know that the possible need for more batteries and/or a larger engine (such as our fuel-economical diesel), coupled with future changes in price and availability of government surplus components, could add a good bit to the cost of the total project. (It would probably now be a good idea to check with surplus suppliers to determine the size of their parts inventories before embarking on the project.) <br/> <br/>MOTHER's researchers intend to finish testing our hybrid car—and to monitor the continuing research conducted by David Arthurs—and we'll report any breakthroughs as they occur. We're also interested in a related project: By replacing the generating assembly with batteries, we hope to achieve an "electric" range of 60 miles, without the noise and pollution that are unavoidable when using any internal combustion engine! <br/> <br/>Considering that the cost of "plug-in" energy for the hybrid car is under 2.5¢ per mile (based upon our area's rate of approximately 4¢ per kilowatt-hour), such a vehicle should prove very attractive . . . especially in light of the fact that the average American car consumes fuel at a rate of more than 6¢ per mile! <br/> <br/>And more news for our fellow experimental car enthusiasts: The DOE recently awarded General Electric an $8 million contract to develop two hybrid prototypes that—it's hoped—will use a "whopping" 5% less total energy than today's Detroit products. With that kind of money, it shouldn't be long before Big Industry reaches the point where Dave Arthurs was two years ago! <br/> <br/>EDITOR'S NOTE: Those who'd like to use their already purchased plans to build MOTHER's experimental version of the hybrid car can get free update information by sending a stamped, self-addressed envelope to Mother's Plans, Hybrid Car Update, P.O. Box A, East Flat Rock, North Carolina 28726. <br/> <br/>And if you haven't yet bought the plans, you can order a set-containing information on all the hybrid options mentioned in this article—for $15, from, Mother's Plans, Hybrid Car, P.O. Box A, East Flat Rock, North Carolina 28786. <br/> <br/> <br/></div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

change 2006-12-17T12:39:21Z change http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/3edd6710-0da4-40dc-9632-6de9069920da 2006-12-15T03:25:28Z 2006-12-15T03:23:15Z

<div>i'll have this phenom up and clicking soon. ive been internally &amp; externally swamped but change is back on the scene and ultimately... <br/>inevitable. <br/> peace</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 1 reply </div>

change 2006-12-15T03:23:15Z change http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/0f4fa6ed-118a-4732-98f6-09ead0467ce8 2006-11-14T04:19:45Z 2006-11-14T04:19:45Z

<div>An online library of accessible, practicle, sustainable, tech and ancient methods for the nomad is coming on-line soon. If you have any PDF's or text documents to contribute email then to the NTZ email listed in an earlier post... <br/>Peace and prosperity</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

change 2006-11-14T04:19:45Z Ro-from-NYC http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/446d3018-c516-4b88-8c54-89b6a892adc6 2006-11-09T07:37:28Z 2006-11-09T07:37:28Z

<div>Hi I couldn't resist the message about this tribe...so I decided to join. <br/> <br/>Ro</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

Ro-from-NYC 2006-11-09T07:37:28Z Ricki http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/7d00e4b2-d237-4af4-83ea-576311f26568 2006-11-08T20:02:23Z 2006-11-08T20:02:23Z

<div>I'm in... What are we doing?</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

Ricki 2006-11-08T20:02:23Z change http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/d4ac1aac-5b6f-4dfa-b34b-85ece29676a5 2006-11-02T17:12:30Z 2006-11-02T17:12:30Z

<div>NTZ@37.com for questions and suggestions for co-incidence with natural phenomena. Do you have connections to a farm interested in work based barter for fractional amounts of harvests? </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

change 2006-11-02T17:12:30Z Carson http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/bf98acc7-0155-4044-a997-385163a93d75 2006-10-30T04:51:40Z 2006-10-30T04:51:40Z

<div>Love you family- it's nice to view what we're about to do. </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

Carson 2006-10-30T04:51:40Z change http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/320c3c51-d6e4-479a-8ea2-eb0dd4ff39f6 2006-10-18T16:27:00Z 2006-10-18T16:25:49Z

<div>This page was an inspired draft of components for this movement...ive posted it for public consumption as organize this while i experience the rest of my life...like i said in the title...dig it and get back to me on this page... </div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 1 reply </div>

change 2006-10-18T16:25:49Z change http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation/thread/784a9893-e554-438b-819b-b02b5be5797b 2006-10-17T21:27:56Z 2006-10-17T21:27:56Z

<div>the way i used to be interested in identifying the overlaps of religious beliefs has transformed into how the current <br/>movements and the current tribeS could put the best of what they have together into a new form, a way of life that <br/>no matter your color, sex, or level of urban/suburbanization the sense of it would shine. tthe style wiould be offgrid-green- <br/>sustainable-salvage tech and very very low on modern currency...Hope i dont sound redundant to other posts but i hope as <br/>a forum ensues the answer word will flesh itself out...The kind of folks ive found on tribe nd the folks who brought me to it, start <br/>most trends that effect this world anyway or maintain the undergrounds heart and muscle so....what do you get when you put together a burner with a rainbow witha mutant with green techie with a hacker with holistic healer with a long boarder with a lot of buses and a....</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

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<div>As i research, contemplate, network, plan, and resource this coming movement i'd like to thank you all for joining. <br/>The instinct in the human animal and the human spirit is in my opinion, the only sustainable way of life in these times. <br/>This movement hopes to draw in all the gatherings and make them into a way of life, more to come in a little while.</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

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<div>this is the introduction to a crossroads of the new and old tribes... <br/>a merging of theways of the rainbows and burners, of the urban and indigenous, of the ecstatic and technological. <br/>The events manifesting these intentions will be barter oriented, sustainably empowered and holistically/transparently operated towards <br/>a future for these gatherings superior to any expectations. Th event will con-incide with natural phenomena..Ex. Lunar Cycles, Eclipses, Harvests, Disaster Relief and Migrations of other species. Plans are underway to include the surviving homes of the indigenous american population. This is a safe space for non-violent expressions of faith, sexuality, politics, health, and lifestyle in general. Peace to ya and help me get the momentum for the transit online!</div> <div> posted in <a href="http://tribes.tribe.net/evolutionation">Nomadic Transit</a> - 0 replies </div>

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