kale fermentations?

topic posted Fri, April 21, 2006 - 8:49 PM by  goddessDi
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Hey all you fabulous fermenters. I have an abundance of kale in my garden now and am wondering if anyone has fermented with kale before. I just shredded some to try making kale kraut. Have no idea how it will be. Smells very kaley!
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  • Re: kale fermentations?

    Wed, April 26, 2006 - 1:50 PM
    haven't tried that. very interested to hear of your outcome. i usually cook it up and freeze it. do let us know how it turns out!
    • Re: kale fermentations?

      Wed, April 26, 2006 - 10:52 PM
      Although it may be hard to believe, kale and cabbage (as well as broccoli, collards, brussel sprouts and kohlrabi) are considerd to be variations of the same species, Brassica oleracea. They have some of the same compounds are are certainly better cooked or fermented than raw (to reduce goiterogens and enhance helpful compounds). I'd bet they have the same lactic acid bacteria on them as well.
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    Sat, April 29, 2006 - 5:57 PM
    Yummy yummy..I have mixed my Cabbage with Kale and then fermented. So, good!!
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      Sun, April 30, 2006 - 11:39 PM
      Well I was really hopin for some yummy kale kraut. But unfortunately it tasted very sulfury and fermenting seemed to bring out that hot brassica bite that I'm not too fond of. Really smelled sulfury too. Soo, I composted it...Maybe better in the fall when the kale is sweeter and temps cooler for fermenting. I like the idea of mixing it with cabbage. Will try that in the fall too! It's all going to seed now, so soon it's on to eating other veggies!
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        Sat, May 6, 2006 - 3:51 PM
        Mixing with cabbage seems like a good idea for krautish things in general. It seems if that's the base then all sorts of things can be added and still get the right ferment. Or even just using the brine from a cabbage ferment as a starter for other veggies.
        Have any of you done much wih curry spices or mushrooms in you lactic ferments? I've read that Russians mix Russulas in their kraut and Himalayans use other fungi in their curried pickles. I'm wondering if certain spices might inhibit the bacteria or too much of certain things cause an 'improper' ferment , though...
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          Sat, May 6, 2006 - 3:58 PM
          By the way, GoddessDi, did you use a usual amount of salt with the kale? Maybe it was edible and healthful but just a little too strong to be yummy (like eating raw garlic for some people). I've read that all sorts of greens can be fermented but I imagine the flavor may not be appealing to all of us.
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        Sun, May 7, 2006 - 9:02 PM
        what seems a delicious thought to me is to make a barely-fermented thing, like say, blanch or gently steam the kale, perhaps along with some onions or leeks, and then toss in a fermentational dressing, like say miso diluted with olive oil and tamari and rice vinegar. add a spash of acidophilus if you feel experiment-y. let it sit for a few days - maybe at room temp overnight and then in the fridge. not a long term keeper, but still worth a try. could turn out to be a nice slightly fermented salad.

        kale in kraut doesnt appeal to me much, but i suppose it could work. still, seems to me like you would want to use twice as much cabbage as kale, and that seems to defeat your purpose of using up the kale.

        otherwise, i agree with (i think it was) shauna - blanch it and freeze it.

        im suprised to hear you kale is going to seed already.. or is it overwintered from last summer?

        plant more!!!
        • Re: kale fermentations?

          Wed, May 10, 2006 - 11:17 PM
          I have kale that volunteers in my garden at various times of the year, this was overwintered! I always let a little go to seed..I don't really feel the need to preserve it since by the time it's done I'm ready for something new, then more grows before I know it. I have dried it in the past for backpacking soup mix tho. It's one of the few really hardy veggies that thrives in my Oregon clay soil!
          I did use the usual amount of salt, and I'm sure that the ferment that resulted was ediable, I just didn't really care for it. I'm not a big mustard fan and it tasted very mustardy to me.
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            Sat, July 18, 2009 - 1:55 PM
            ooooh... I just found this old post. I'm going to try fermenting my kale! I just put a lot of it in the compost :( I ate as much as I could and then it went to seed...

            My new kale is almost ready. YUM.

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