Ok so I put 5g of Star Anise (crushed) in 100ML of 80proof Vodka and let it soak about 20 hours or so. I filled a shot glass half way with the liquid and then added cold water...instant louche. I will have to see if it still works after I have collected the escence of a larger batch later this weekend.
Two points of caution.
1 It turned the vodka a lovely shade of mahogany...not the color I want
2 it has a much harsher flavor of licorice than Anise...much spicier bite to it.
If anyone else has tips lets on this lets hear them.
Two points of caution.
1 It turned the vodka a lovely shade of mahogany...not the color I want
2 it has a much harsher flavor of licorice than Anise...much spicier bite to it.
If anyone else has tips lets on this lets hear them.
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Re: Good Louche
Sat, August 4, 2007 - 4:04 AMCribbed from the DYI thread:
"'Share the Louche' - sounds like the name of a Tribe I'd like to join :D
My guess (and it is only a guess, although I may have some practical evidence to back this up in another week or so) is that you need to use a stronger acohol as your solvent. Start your soak with 80 proof or stronger (151 or 190 proof Pure Grain Alcohol if you can get it). If you want to add the wine flavors in, add them later.
I've got a small batch of something that isn't even close to absinthe (except maybe the color), and I'm curious to know if it will have a louche like Absinthe does. It's soaking in 190 proof, so after I filter it out, I will try a test. In fact, I think I will video my test to have a record I can share with you."
...and also:
"I have filtered the batch I was soaking, and the first test showed a strong louche.
I have it on video, but am having difficulty sending that video to my webspace.
The solution contained no wormwood, no anise, no hyssop, no fennel and no calamus root. It did have some mint in it, and one other (not-to-be-named) substance.
Upon closer observation, I have noticed that the louche passes with time. It also appears to accumulate on the surface. My guess is that I am seeing some kind of outgassing effect, and that the cloudiness is caused by microbubbles which are released as the water and liquor combine. I do not know if temperature is a factor (ice water vs. room temp water, for example - I used ice water). The outgassing (if that's what it is) appears to emit a substantial amount of fragrance.
I still think that it has to do with how strong the alcohol is for your initial soak."
...and now:
I have just uploaded the video to my photo host. The file is about 32-34Megs and is a .wmv file. It can be accesses at www.thipdar.com/vidz/Louchetest.wmv
I'm sorry it took me so long to get this up to the photo server.
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Re: Good Louche
Sun, November 18, 2007 - 1:23 PMwell we have been very quiet but since it is snowing outside today my mind is turning again to my Absinthe experiments.
I put some of my homemade from last year in a small rocks glass and tossed in 5-6 small ice cubes. I left it on the counter for maybe 5 mins while I did somthing else and when I picked it up I noticed that is was nice and cloudy. This is the same stuff that would not louche when added cold water from the fridge to it. How damn cold does the water need to be???
So another question I have is do any of you distill it in some way or do you just soak the herbs? I am working on getting some grain which is not sold in PA and I may try a good soak and see what I get. -
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Re: Good Louche
Mon, November 19, 2007 - 1:17 AMThe only thing I've ever tried to distill in my life was water.
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Re: Good Louche
Mon, November 19, 2007 - 10:53 AMJust asking man.....It's not that hard and it is safe and pretty much legal if you are only using alcohol you purchased and not alcohol you created by fermentation.
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Re: Good Louche
Tue, November 20, 2007 - 2:47 AM
The louche to ice is something special. I sat this summer and watched the rocks melt in the evening sun and the dance was glorious. Very satisfying ...but the Wikipedia army and the Absinthe boot boys won't approve. This was an Amer or Bitter classifcation absinthe with about 35mg thujone.
BTW: The only absinthe I've made is by soaking herbs and if you get it right it's complex and noble. Don't forget I have a bitter tooth and like the complex bitterness of real herbs. Sugared up mass market crap with pompous labels or cheesy cat's eyes is not for me.
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Re: Good Louche
Tue, November 20, 2007 - 11:22 AMI never use sugar. I like the bitter too. Well I plan to do some more experiments this winter I will be looking for input on my findings. -
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Re: Good Louche
Sat, November 24, 2007 - 2:45 AM
PioĊunowka:
czechabsinthe.wordpress.com/2007...home/
Their used to be a ref to it on the absinthe wikipedia page but the "Gods of Absinthe" removed it, as you are not allowed to know about it....it's from Poland. Simple and pleasing....the Polish word means wormwood....like absinthe means wormwood in French.
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Re: Good Louche
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 7:00 PMIt's good to see others who realize that when it comes to food and drink there is no set standard. Food and drink are just like art. There are no rules. -
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Re: Good Louche
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 2:56 AM
I like that idea. Sometimes when I cook I ignore flashy recipe books and find the results are often more pleasing to my taste. I'm a fan of slow cooked stews - in Morocco they put tagine in a stone pot, take it to the local bakery, let it cook all day.....eat in the evening. In Asian countries the skill of the street food "hawker" is prized - each stall is different.
Good food outside the home need not cost a fortune. You can eat VERY well for less than a couple of bucks in some countries.
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Re: Good Louche
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 11:37 AMI cook, I make beer and I paint so I know all of them have rules of a sort but all the rules can be broken if the result is good. Art is result oriented. Making Absinthe or baking cookies is the same. Make it the way you like it and enjoy. -
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Re: Good Louche
Sat, December 1, 2007 - 12:45 PMFennel and badiane may be the answer posed by Kurt (elsewhere) as to why there is a louche in anise-free absinthe...both contains anethole?
Not sure. If badiane is not a "tradtional"ingredient of "absinthe" it must be faux..faux sure.
We need to check on Wikiedia, that honest and impartial instrument of knowledge for the masses. :-( -
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Re: Good Louche
Sat, December 1, 2007 - 1:22 PMIt's not mysticism that creates a louche, it's things that are soluble in alcohol and NOT in water coming out of solution. Of course, the game is to figure out what things. From what I've read, the Anise is the key to producing the louche effect. -
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Re: Good Louche
Sun, December 2, 2007 - 2:33 AM
Some "evil" Germans made an anise - free absinthe that louches. Anise-free absinthe is viewed as the Anti-Christ by the absinthe evangelicals.
I'm wondering about this badiane? Perhaps Jimmy will do a soak?
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Re: Good Louche
Sun, December 2, 2007 - 4:33 PMThe above-referenced video clip was for a solution that had no fennel or... what the heck is "badiane"? Sounds like the stage name for a dominatrix. Anyhow, I don't THINK there was any of that stuff in the solution I videoed.
I can eliminate one more variable and see if a maceration of peppermint in 190-proof will louche.
I'll get started ASAP and let you know in a couple of weeks.
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Re: Good Louche
Mon, December 3, 2007 - 5:39 AMOops ...my mistake looks like it might be another name for the shrub that produces the star anise flower...so I guess it would have the same properties.
I hope peppermint yields an answer in the quest for the faux louche.
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