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I've been reading random people's randonneuring blogs over the weekend, specifically those who write about their experience with ultra long distances (1200km, 1400km) or very fast paces (Cyclos Montagnards R-80/70/60, Charlie Miller award, etc.) and I'm noticing a pattern:
Many accounts of their rides end with "... and that's when my wife/husband/kids rushed me to the ER."
Dehydrative exhaustion, inability to digest food, hallucinations from sleep deprivation and overexertion, exertion angioedema... The list goes on and on.
Some people may not have any problems with these distances, but more often than not, the accounts I read include such sorts of greivous harm. Has there been a long-term effects study on ultra endurance athletes regarding the consistent pushing of one's body to such strenuous limits?
At what point does exercise quit being healthy, and start becoming a detriment (whether short or long term)?
Many accounts of their rides end with "... and that's when my wife/husband/kids rushed me to the ER."
Dehydrative exhaustion, inability to digest food, hallucinations from sleep deprivation and overexertion, exertion angioedema... The list goes on and on.
Some people may not have any problems with these distances, but more often than not, the accounts I read include such sorts of greivous harm. Has there been a long-term effects study on ultra endurance athletes regarding the consistent pushing of one's body to such strenuous limits?
At what point does exercise quit being healthy, and start becoming a detriment (whether short or long term)?
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Re: Long-term health effects
Tue, August 4, 2009 - 9:52 AMLook at the Mark Sisson interview in the current Rivendell Reader
www.rivbike.com/assets/pay...R41_web.pdf
I read it a while back, but as I recall really long strenuous activity is harmful but brief strenuous activity is what we're built for.
Pain must be given to us as a purpose. I think it's like warning lights on the dash or strange noises from the engine. If you just push on you may damage something. Of course our bodies can adapt and repair themselves in ways cars can't but still to me pain says back off, take it easy.
Also I read in a book that perspiration contains calcium, and people who do things like RAAM are at risk for osteoporosis at a relatively young age. I try to get plenty of calcium, because almost every day in the warm half of the year here in humid Florida I sweat til I'm soaked, more from yard work than from cycling in my case but the effect should be the same. -
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Tue, August 4, 2009 - 8:20 PMThanks for that. I'm reading up on the diabetes article...it seems really good and definitely anyone who carbo loads and drinks lots of fluids should be aware of.
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Wed, August 5, 2009 - 6:58 AMThe Sisson article is fantastic. Thanx for pointing it out. -
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Re: Long-term health effects
Tue, September 15, 2009 - 6:54 AMThere are a lot of negatives in bicycling,from the negative metabolic effects Sisson pointed out in this article to the very position the human body assumes while riding a bicycle.
As a former bicycle racer(in the 1970's) and an avid bicycle tourist also during that time(I have logged over 4,000 miles touring) I can honestly say YES,the negative impacts of cycling are very real.
First,the body's position on a typical diamond-framed lightweight racing bike is not "optimum" you are perched atop a narrow saddle and no matter how much you spend for it,racing style saddles are NOT "comfortable" nor are they kind to your body. This saddle design has been proven to cause numbness in men in their crotch region that can lead to long term impotency issues. More than 70% of your body weight mass is supported by your saddle. Then there are issues with your elbows and arms wich support the other 30% of your total body mass. As a former bike racer,I experienced a lot of elbow,shoulder and hand pain during the grueling races I participated in,this can lead to osteoporosis in those joints later on in life(after age 50) In racing,one can also blow out their knee's if their foot position and pedaling motion is not absolutally optimum,also the degree of "float" on your clipless pedals is really important to get it RIGHT,or long term pedaling in this motion can lead to chronic knee damage.
As with any excercising,cycling too hard or too long can have it's negative effects on the human body. Today,after 40 years of cycling,I now ride a Recumbent wich eliminates 95% of the issues I had from lower back pain to crotch numbness and arm and hand pain but since *most* of you on this forum have poo poohed me in the past about the use of "Bents" I no longer write about them.
The bottom line is: how much do WE want to ride and how much of a risk of damage to out body are we willing to take? -
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Re: Long-term health effects
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 10:21 AM"Today,after 40 years of cycling,I now ride a Recumbent wich eliminates 95% of the issues I had from lower back pain to crotch numbness and arm and hand pain but since *most* of you on this forum have poo poohed me in the past about the use of "Bents" I no longer write about them."
What I'm really wondering about is less on the "repetitve stress injury" type of problems and more along the "endurance event specific" problems. I read yet another account from one of my pals who rode the Granite Anvil 1200, and he spent much of the ride just trying to hold down enough food and water to continue riding. His body was literally rebelling against any more exercise, trying its best to just make it all stop, but he pushed onward.
Some people seem to have an innate ability to tolerate the insane mileage. One guy with my club does back to back 600k followed by 1000k rides, twice; then follows it up with 3/4 of an SR series and finishes off with a 1200k. During the 1200k he takes the time to post on Facebook, and stop for a beer at 950km! With the exception of one ride where something he ate disagreed with him, I've never heard him complain about any physiologic ill effects from this sort of repeated ultradistance torment on his body. Persistent sleep deprivation and prolonged muscular abuse don't seem to affect him.
There are others who can't get through a 600k without two roadside puke stops, half a bottle of Endurolytes, and a week off from work to recover afterwards; yet they force this upon themselves season after season. I don't imagine that forcing this sort of punishment is healthy or beneficial. Sleep deprivation and dehydration aren't things that most coaches usually prescribe in a heathy exercise regimen.
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Re: Long-term health effects
Wed, September 16, 2009 - 5:53 PMi have permanent wrist pain from riding
but i dont ride for too long ever
im not going to race the tour du france ever
no need to ride 9000 miles at a time
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Re: Long-term health effects
Tue, October 13, 2009 - 2:15 PMI don't do anything to the point of needing hospitalization.