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  • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 6:16 AM
    Backwards is as backwards does.

    My darlings,

    This shit has been going on for 1000s on years to women. This is not new. The only new part is now you know. Now we have media that can shock you from all corners of the earth. They can do what they like to do which is to keep you in fear, anger and hatred so you are exhausted and overwhelmed by all of it and can do nothing about any of it. It's thier job.

    Your choices are to:
    1. stop watching to preserve your sanity.
    2. focus on one cause that a few of you can really make a difference
    3. write a letter a day about a different cause and send it to 100+ people at the UN, Congress, Amensty Intl. (ask Bonnie about this - she is the expert.)
    4. Demand that the media stop torturing us every day and start showing us stories of loving compassion. Start filling the world with better things and then more of better things will start happening. Show us the way out not the insanity.
    • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 1:15 AM
      Just as we are responsible for choosing the food we ingest, it is up to us to choose the information we subject ourselves to.

      In this light, I choose not to click on the original link because I can tell it will upset me.

      Here is a better link, so you can click for free today to donate funds to Amnesty International's work to stop violence against women: stopviolence.care2.com/i

      If you are interested in writing letters about this and related atrocities, you can go directly to Amnesty International here www.amnestyusa.org/ and click on Take Action or use the pulldown menu to find the issues that concern you the most.

      May all of our collective sorrow and outrage be transformed into effective action wherever it is needed most!
  • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

    Thu, May 1, 2008 - 10:51 AM
    I believe this is part of the reason why some Muslim countries are unable to catch up with the rest of the world. Some people will blame the U. S. for all their troubles, but then how do you explain this kind of behavior? Did the U.s. force you to treat women so abominably? The quotes from the men in this article are sickening...
    • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

      Thu, May 1, 2008 - 2:29 PM
      The part that pisses me off is that we DID know! Afghanistan under the Taliban was a 'cause' for years, but media downplayed groups that got involved in getting the word out as Hollywood elitists. It wasn't until 9/11 that America officially became outraged.
    • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

      Fri, May 2, 2008 - 9:47 AM
      I believe this is part of the reason why some Muslim countries are unable to catch up with the rest of the world. Some people will blame the U. S. for all their troubles

      This statement didturbs me on so many levels and I wish I was better able to verbalize.
      This is not about being muslim or non muslim, it is about a tribal culture, about different ideals a different world. Being muslim does not mean you abuse women.
      This has nothing to do with the US or the western world, with the so called christian nations.
      Muslim countrys are not backward, some are different, some are not as commercially developed, they all have different values than the US, which supported the taliban and its all its suppressive activities as a method of fighting that specter, the Communist USSR.
      Do I think women should be treated like this. Of course not. But waving the big pointy backward Muslim Nations finger is not going to help at all.

      What we should all do when we put on our Kuchi jewellery is spare a thought for the woman whose dowry it was, and think of her and her sisters who live with this horrific oppression every day of their lives, who can't dance in public, who can even leave the house, who will only speak to the males in their immediate family and wont get to choose who they love.
      And we should remember that our actions when we are wearing our "tribal " costumes can and do have affects on the lives of other women elsewhere in the world, and we should try and move respectfully through our lives so the waves of our actions do not drown others.
      • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

        Fri, May 2, 2008 - 5:20 PM
        Thank you, maiwenn, for putting so succinctly what I was thinking. It's important to remember that no one religion (or group of people claiming to follow any particular religion) is responsible for these acts. This stuff happens in Russia, Venezuela, and oh yes, in the good ol' U.S. of A. Bad people are everywhere doing bad things. Some just hide behind labels like "Muslim", "priest" or *ahem* "president".

        Ladies and gents, follow the excellent advice of Laura and Bonnie -- they know they are talking about!
    • Max
      Max
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      Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

      Mon, May 5, 2008 - 3:56 AM
      Yes this is sad but not very shocking. Do you know what the rule of thumb is? No? I'll tell you: The rule of thumb state that the stick you use to beat your wife must be no thicker than your thumb. (you say:) "Oh my god, what abominable 3rd world country could have such an inhuman law?" (I say:) The US circa 1900. Why are women singled out for such horrid treatment? Why are any one? The sad truth is that all people (you, me ever one) see differences in group and judge them to be inferior compared them selves (I certainty feel superior to the cunts featured in this article) and in time of hardship people will blame those groups in an effort to shift blame from them selves (I'm not lazy, spicks keep me from having a job!). In time, if these hardships continue over generations, social order will change radically. Here we have a moral inferior/superior question: Women inspire immorality in men-she was raped because she was dressed like a slut, cover her up. She cheated on me because she is a women and women are all sex addicts, cut off her clit (this happens every day in Africa).
  • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

    Fri, May 2, 2008 - 8:03 PM
    This is why i am a member of amnesty international.
    Dont just get dusgusted ladies dosomething about it.
    They are always running campaigns where all you do is send an email or a postcard to a name person in a regime lobbying for change. They also take up campaigns for specific individuals to lobby for justice. Some of the responses you get from people they help free from situations as unjust as this break your heart - just the fact that people out there care and offer support can mean the whole world when your world has fallen apart. Being a member has taught me some very valuable life lessons.
    I know some people disagree with their policies - but i believe that any organisation in this world that works exclusively to help the unjustly persecuted is extremely important.

    Katie
    • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

      Sat, May 3, 2008 - 8:53 AM
      This is not about being Muslim.

      This is about the systematic oppression of women that has been taking place all over the world since men figured out they were stronger than us.

      Not saying all men - so don't get your panties in a twist. I'm not a man hater. I am a pretty good historian and I read.

      It is a fact that the less educated the people are and more isolated a place is - the more likely crimes against women will take place. The more impoverished adds to the problem. If you have nothing but your body, you will harm another's body to gain some sort of status, place or perceived thing.

      Violence against women must be stopped. But it cannot be addressed by killing or jailing them all. They will never understand. This is a systematic problem that must be addressed that way. People must not be hungry, poor, or in fear to survive in a nurturing fashion. Only then will education about moral and civil rights make any sense or have any place in their world. If you know that you can walk your streets without the fear of being killed, get enough food for your family to be happy, and know that everyone in your town can do the same - your world becomes a place of peace. Then peace can flourish and the way of peace can be cultivated.

      This is the path I wish the world was on.
      • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

        Sun, May 4, 2008 - 11:08 AM
        Thank you you said what I was trying to say only better.

        One thing we tend to overlook is that a lot of the oppression of women is carried out by other women. The mother in laws who treats the wife as a servant to her son, the grand mothers who believe that without a circumsission a girl is too masculine, every woman who judges another woman as a slut or whore because she does not cover herself, or is seen in public, every woman who ostracizes another because she is socially outcast. First we have to enlighten these women, in the hope that they will educate their sons to treat women with more respect, and then in time with more equality

        It would be very nieve of us to think that we can change the way a culture treats its women overnight, or even in a generation. It has been a hundred years since Victorian women chained themselves to railings for womens votes in the uk and we still live in a world where women are inferior, useless if they aren't sexy, more loved for their bodies than their brains, paid less, have less oportunities and do 90% of the house work. We are not going to change the way some Afghan men veiw women today, or tommorrow, but maybe the next generation will change if we work hard at it, and act with love in our hearts and minds, not judgement and "patriotism"
        • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

          Sun, May 4, 2008 - 3:24 PM
          "It has been a hundred years since Victorian women chained themselves to railings for womens votes in the uk and we still live in a world where women"

          in the West starve themselves to be skinny enough while people go hungry on the other side of the world, get fake boobs so they will be accepted, have self esteem issues that go far beyond inelligence, hold themselves to to an airbrushed magazine standard that no real person can achieve, cover themselves with perfume that is known to be made with poison, toxins, and other cancer causing agents.....


          This list is too long.
      • Max
        Max
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        Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

        Mon, May 5, 2008 - 4:03 AM
        Laura you may be the most sensible human in the world. I feel like like the world may still have hope if I can click on a random post and find some one like you. God (as if that prick gives a rat's ass about us) bless you. You are beautiful.
        • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

          Tue, May 6, 2008 - 7:09 AM
          Hey Max thanx. Now if I can only be sensilbe about the crazymaking Russian lady at work and not strangle her - I'll be golden.

          Say do you know anyone who will dress up in giant Moose & Squirrel costumes, abduct her and throw her in the bay for me?
          • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

            Tue, May 6, 2008 - 8:50 AM
            ah, the problem with loving our sisters is that not all our sisters are that lovable.
            • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

              Tue, May 6, 2008 - 11:08 AM
              Also look at Human Rights Watch, and google "Irshad Manij" (Manji?). Her site is great, though disturbing. It is so great to see people discussing these issues and **getting good and righteously pissed** rather than just sitting back and saying "oh, well, not in my gated neighborhood."

              Channel that anger! ( I am in the process of figuring out how to do this myself) There are things to do other than send money. Can you write? Bonnie and Laura sure as hell can. Why not write an editorial for a local newspaper? Or organize a local charity group that raises money to send to organizations like RAWA? (effin great idea; I just thought of it). Read. Learn. Speak.

              I have asked this before, but it bears repeating, in so many arenas ...."who benefits from your silence?"

              slade
  • Re: This shit pisses me the fuck off >:(

    Tue, May 6, 2008 - 12:43 PM
    I'm sick of this "my invisible friend is better than your invisible friend therefore I can do whatever nasty stuff comes to mind" Organized religion is a cancer on the human spirit. (nothing against spirituality, just the use of "god" to justify evil)

    Wanna see my head spin? Tell me that we have to "respect their culture" around this kind of issue. Slavery is the same whether you call it marriage or not. Why is gender-based apartheid ok, when race-baced apartheid is not?