I am always getting big fat crushes on women I dance with. It makes for some crazy ass sexual tension in the troupe. Does anyone else have this problem or am I just horny as fuck?
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:28 AMNo but I have had an ex-teacher take a fancy to my hubby. Invited him round, blindfolded him, spanked him and fucked him stupid without my permission.
No I dont do swinging, but she nearly did by her entrails from the nearest rafters.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:28 AMI forgot to say she shackled him to her cross in her dungeon.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:33 AMOMFG! .............Do you know where I can find this woman? lol. -
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 1:36 AMLMFAO - she is actually bisexual I believe .... .alas she is is in UK
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 3:41 AMLisa, she would have been found in an empty lot with a few teeth missing and I'd have a shiny new Tribal necklace.
I've not had a crush on anyone I've danced with .....coz I haven't danced with anyone yet. Had crushes on acquaintances before.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 5:01 AMDamn Amara I wish I had thought about that.
I was trying to be "adult" about it.
I do however still have murderous thoughts .........................
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 12:27 PMAmara, bwahahahaha! YOu'd have a new shiny tribal necklace!
gawd, I love bellydancers!
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 5:28 AMyeah, happens to me all the time.
but since i am happily married, it's kinda fun and safe to crush on other people, knowing i would never let it get any farther than fantasy. -
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 6:46 PM*snort* You've got alot of self control. *giggle*
I get crushes all the time, but thankfully, the girls I crush on, my Boy also crushes on, so we can come home and talk about it. hehehe -
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 5:08 AMMy husband and I never took a vow of monogamy, so one of these crushes could bloom, I suppose...
But let's put it this way. I've been reading the same tarot deck for twenty years. Everything in my closet is black. I am not a multitasker. I should have been born a pigeon--I might be one of those people who are inherently monogamous!
Although I do agree intellectually with polyamory, and Liberty I appreciate your comments about open relationships.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 6:51 AMYa know... I think it might be an infatuation thing. When you spend a lot of time with someone, and add the tension of performance and traveling situations to it, it has a sort of 'road trip/ vacation' feel to it. You're already in a more 'aroused' state before and after performances, with the adrenaline rush and the excitement of performing and projecting.
I think I would be careful not to accidentally take advantage of someones shimmy buzz that might lead them into doing something they would regret later. Having a previously 'straight' troupe mate having an identity crisis because she didn't think she swings that way, but after last night can't say that she doesn't, and now doesn't know what to think of it all could be a bad deal.
I think my mantra in this case would be 'intimacy does not require a romantic relationship' you can have satisfying platonic relationships that are close, and that were they to be with someone who isn't a 'work friend' might go somewhere, but because you all have to work together, adding the sexual dynamic = potential troupe buster.
I used to flirt with a couple of my classmates back in the day, but there was an unspoken line.
There was one gal that just killed me. So I sort of avoided her. I was friendly, but didn't go out of my way to push things because she had a boyfriend, I was married and it would have been *weird*
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 8:05 AMHappens to me all the time, but nothing has ever become of it....yet :)
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 8:12 AMAmazingly enough, I have never developed a crush on any of the women I have danced with. It's almost like my brain does not list them in the "Available" category. I find this rather weird because I have the most insane crush on a (mostly) straight, married, pregnant coworker. You'd think of all girls, my brain would put "married to a guy, pregnant, and you have to see her multiple times a week in a professional setting" into the "Unavailable" category, buuuut there you have it.
Heheh, I'm sure this does happen to other girls, but at the same time, yeah, you might just be horny as fuck too! ;)
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 9:03 AMhm, not really.
One of my close friends who I dance with occasionally is also bi/horny and since we know each other really well we are very "touchy" with each other, make everything into sexual innuendo and shamelessly flirt, but in more of a joking "you're so hot, haha" kind of way than a "omg! take me now!" kind of way. Of course, I've only been dancing for a few years and with the same troup members, all of whom are either older than me and married or they are children so I guess I haven't really thougt about it a lot.
Watching other dancers at festivals and stuff, I can see how it can easily happen.
But yeah, you may just be horny, but I think that's normal...or maybe I'm just horny all the time too, and only think it's normal...oh, crap.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 9:25 AMHi Liberty:
Could it be that you admire your troupe members and both of you being female, there's an understanding of how each other feels (emotions)? Especially about dance?
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 10:59 AMThat is something to think about.
I do share a connection with anyone that I dance with that I cannot get anywhere else. Maybe I am confusing it with sexual tension? It does not help that many of the women that I dance with/have danced with are bi and quite flirty with me. ;) I too am married, but to the coolest guy ever. He is understanding of my sexuality (and horny ass nature.lol), and that right there gets me into trouble because sometimes I don't know when to stop flirting. *slaps hand* naughty naughty girl. =)
Yeah, I think it all comes down to being a very sexual (HORNY!) person. lol
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:00 AMI've danced with a few ladies who've let me know that they would love to "Spoon" me. While that kind of thing is perfectly cool as far as the hubby goes... I just haven't had the occasion or the urge. I'm only attracted to "people" in the abstract sense. I find ideologies and attitudes sexy... gender doesn't really factor in a whole lot. I don't think its had any kind of negative effect on our dancing, and I never felt uncomfortable at all. Then again... there is so much going on inside my head that I don't really think about it.
I think I'm about as sexual as the absent minded professor. Then again... I've been married for over 8 years and it's still hot and cold running nookie around this place. Maybe if I was hard up I would be more interested? Hmmm... don't listen to anything I say. I'm an atypical female so I'm not a very good judge of this kind of thing. Is sexual tension more fun in a dance troupe? (If so I kind of have to imagine that the ladies of Unmata are the funnest dance troupe in the world. *innocent smile*)
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:10 AMLOL. Yes, I have crushes on many of them as well *sigh*
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:10 AMI have never had a crush on any of my troupemates. I have a crush on some girls from another state, but that''s another story. lol! The hubbs and I have a rule, We do it together or we don't do it. (lol, just occurred to me how funny that sounds). So yeah, it's not like I couldn't bring someone home, I just think of my troupemates more as sisters. Now those girls from another state make me pant, a bit and I try to stay cool. What else you gonna do.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 11:55 AMlol. well said!
Yes, I have heard people say that I am quite the lady killer. lol.
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 12:43 AM<< I just think of my troupemates more as sisters>>
yes, that makes sense. I think I think of my troup mates in a familial (sp?) sense than a sexual one. They are all like my cool aunts :)
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 6:50 PM<<I just think of my troupemates more as sisters.>>
That just added a whole nother level of damn, thats hot.
*ducks*
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 12:37 PMI haven't had it yet, but I imagine its possible :)
I connect with the women I dance with now on a completely non-sexual level, though we are good friends. I guess that I'm lucky in the fact that although I'm thoroughly bisexual, I tend not to develop "crushes" on women very often. To be fair, I rarely have them on men either. I go through this weird process from attraction to interest to either pursuit or dismissal from the realm of possibility.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 12:50 PMAll the freakin' time! I always get big fatty crushes on lots of women I dance with, watch dance, who wear dance clothes etc. I am so happily married and have been for 16 years (been together for 19) and he knows how it is.
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 2:53 PMI always giggle at the big named tribal troupe director who told me the troupe the plays together stays together.
But when another troupe tried to follow that example it didn't work out so well. The sexual relationship ended a long troupe partnership.
Just have fantasies in your head.
Ever heard don't shit where you eat?
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 3:32 PMI get crushes, sure, but Miki and my hubby will always be the loves of my life. ;) -
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 2:01 PMI love you, too, chicka ... will you get jealous if I fall for Vlad?
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Thu, April 10, 2008 - 7:29 PMAlthough I get crushes on people I dance with I don't want to foul up a perfectly good dance relationship.
<~~~another horny dance sister
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 7:56 AMHeck, Liberty, I'm straight and Christian, and I still get little baby-girly crushes on some of the gals I dance with sometimes! I really respect the women who I have gotten to work with (mostly) and for me respect and love go hand in hand. Add that to the fact that there are some stunning physical specimens, and stunning personalities...you get a mix of emotions that can translate into crushes. It's a natural reaction, especially for being in as close a proximity as dancers tend to get on such a regular basis :) Accept what it means and don't let things get carried away and it will all end up good ;)
**HUGS**
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 8:55 AMYes and no...I develop crushes but nothing sexual. I tried it once and found that I really just don't swing that way, which is something I would not have known about myself if I hadn't at least tried it. But I do develop...I hope I'm quoting the right person here...as Karma called it "girly crushes." Mostly it's admiration for someones skill, talent, flare, style...something just grabs me and has me sitting at the edge of a stage drooling like an idiot. -
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:13 AMA friend of mine said it quite well the other week after watching me dance.
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Fri, April 11, 2008 - 9:20 AMLMAO. I love it!! =)
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:54 PMROTFL!! Friendship boner. I'm gonna have to toss that one out there.
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Tue, April 15, 2008 - 11:05 AMkatrina i call that bi-sensual... you can be sensual with a woman and have feelings but not actually be sexually attracted to them!
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 9:15 AMI just want to toss this into the ring.
There is a misconception that simply because you are bisexual means you cannot be faithful to one person. That because you like have sex with both, that will have sex with both all the time. Likewise with lesbians. That just because you like to have sex with women, that you have sex with all women.
Just because I am a lesbian does NOT mean I am interested in having sex with anyone besides my wife. I find many women beautiful, have close loving relationships with them, but that intimate relationship is kept sacred for one woman only. I am not a tester model to see if one might be gay, to have a casual fling with, to relieve sexual tension with or any other thing JUST because I am a lesbian.
So might I suggest you look at your ethics behind these feelings. That if you are married to a man, if you have sex with a women on the side it doesn't count somehow? That it is less of a breaking of your marriage vow because it's not real in some way? I have encountered this notion and it disturbs me.
My relationship is just as real as any heterosexual one. I'm not trying it out because it's easy, because I haven't found the right man, or because something is wrong with me. I am with the person who is my mate for life. There is nothing more right about it.
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 7:55 PMI am not a tester model to see if one might be gay...
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 1:11 AM"Oh dear, you sound like this has happened more than once."
To both of us, all the time. And (probably like everyone else on earth) I am often propositioned by really disgusting people I wouldn't slap with a dead badger to save their ugly life.
It is really frustrating how many women and men think that sex with a woman doesn't even count as cheating. So I don't count because I have a cunt? Fuck you and your phallocentric crap. That is just about as misogynistically fucktarded as it is possible to get. Cock is not the only ingredient in sex that counts. I can fuck better and longer and with much more pelvic articulation than most men you know. The major differences are that I am not afraid of real intimacy in or out of bed, I cannot imagine wanting to fuck a woman without the primary focus being her pleasure, and I actually know how to respect a woman.
Plenty of straight or bi-curious-after-two-glasses-of-wine girls think they want to fall in bed with me. That's cute and sweet, and I can even accept it as a compliment sometimes, but I really only want to have sex with a woman who knows exactly how to have sex with a woman. Why on earth would I want a fumbling drunk girl who can't even take me seriously? Had enough of that in junior high, but good luck with that. Thank Goddess I've already found the love of my life, because it is frustrating as hell out there.
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Sun, April 13, 2008 - 8:41 AMSome people are monogamous and that is great. It is NOT however, great for everyone. And just because someone is in an open relationship, that does not mean they are cheating. I have had meaningful relationships with women while married to my husband and I don't think there is anything wrong with that. I do not consider it "breaking my marriage vow" and neither does my husband. I am a very sexual and emotional person and do not think it is unethical for me to explore those aspects of myself. That is great that you are in a happily closed relationship, but keep in mind that some relationships have evolved to the point of exploration without separation and are just as happy.
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Mon, April 14, 2008 - 5:52 AMLiberty- Thank you for sharing your viewpoint!
Whatever the type of relationship, if the people involved are happy and interacting with each other with good intent and everyone is consenting adults...it shouldn't matter the shape the relationship takes. But the moment there is dishonesty (ie cheating) then I take issue with it. My husband's uncle tried to say his "open" relationship was just like ours. Um, no. Your wife didn't agree to you sleeping with other women while she's home with the kids.
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 11:37 AMMy problem is that an awful lot of the dancers who seem to want to flirt with/sleep with girls don't want to date or partner with girls. I don't do the "I only play with girls" or "I'll sleep with girls if my guy is there" thing. I'm not a freaking toy.
I'm now living in the Bay Area and STILL can't find girls to date. Grrr.
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 11:52 AMWell, I have caused some tension for other dancers in my teacher's class before. My friend and I are very sexual, so to speak, and we getting a little too rowdy in class. Not only was my friend in the class but I was also assisting at the time. To be honest, it was pretty inappropriate of me. And after my teacher had a heart to heart with me, I didnt do it again. It really wasnt "bad" just too much for class. While I see nothing wrong with having crushes or dating anyone you dance with, brining it into the classroom, or to troupe is where I would draw the line. I consider dancing a kind of business, atleast professionally, so I wont bring it to "work" with me anymore. -
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Sat, April 12, 2008 - 6:39 PMYes. I have a hard time not staring at the lovely jiggly bits. I wonder if I've ever offened anyone without realizing it. Being older and larger not to mention married to a dude, has kept me from really making a fool of myself and actually making a move. It's not always been easy though. I don't think I could take it if I did try and was rejected. And like others have mentioned it could mess up the troupe so even though I wanna I'm afraid to go there.
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