The Pierogie is an Ancient Mayan dish; one of the oldest recipies in recorded history. First developed as ritual offering foods designed to be imolated before the temples of the Mayan Gods. During a massive famine that rocked the entire Mayan civilization the Pierogie was one of the few foods that was still readily available and fairly easy to make. Some religious sects attribute the creation of the Pierogie to extra terrestrial beings who visited our planet thousands of years ago in order to help cultivate civilization. While the fuckers didn't teach us how to make things out of metal or gift us with the cure for cancer they still had time to give instruction in stone work (something we were already proficient with) and the cullinary art of baking Pierogies.
Okay I'm full of shit. But I love Pierogies. I had never had them before today and I just killed an entire box. What the hell are these things? Where do they come from? It's kind of like a samosa but not... It's kind of like a posticker but not... It's kind of like a Cornish pasty but not... So what the hell is a Pierogie and where did it come from?
~*Spoon*~
Okay I'm full of shit. But I love Pierogies. I had never had them before today and I just killed an entire box. What the hell are these things? Where do they come from? It's kind of like a samosa but not... It's kind of like a posticker but not... It's kind of like a Cornish pasty but not... So what the hell is a Pierogie and where did it come from?
~*Spoon*~
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:36 AMFrom Wiki! :) I love them too...
Pierogi (also perogi, perogy, pirohi, piroghi, pirogi, pirogen, piroshke or pyrohy), from the Proto-Slavic "pir" (festivity) is the name most commonly used in English speaking areas to refer to a variety of Slavic semicircular (or, in some cuisines, square) stuffed dumplings of unleavened dough and varying ingredients. Their specific origins are unknown; though they have strong ties to Slavic culture, similar foods occur in many cultures across Europe and Asia.
In some languages, they are known by words derived from the root of the word "to boil". These include the Belarusan vareniki (варэнiкi), Latvian vareņiki (borrowed from Russian), Russian vareniki (варе́ник[и]), Ukrainian varenyky (варе́ник[и]) (literally "boiled thing," from the adjective form varenyy). In these languages, words derived from "pir", such as the Russian pirogi (пироги) refer to a different type of food.
Karelian pasties (karjalanpiirakat /karjalanpiirakka in the South Karelian dialect of Finnish and karjalanpiiraat/karjalanpiiras in the North Karelian dialect) are a very different Karelian variant widely eaten in Finland too.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:49 AMYou'd think I'd know being on pirogi patrol and all...
According to my family, they're a pastry, filled with potato and something else (onion, cheese, bacon), and we usually sautee ours, but yes, they're traditionally boiled. I can probably get the recipe later tonight from my mom but they are TIME CONSUMING!! It is usually an all day project. And the Pirogies come from our Polish side.
(I honestly have no clue how it's spelled so I'm just letting the spell check have at it. LOL, I think we always spell it pierogie though. That red line just drives me crazy) -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:07 AMOMG...pirogies. My Polish mother-in-law makes the most mouth-watering blueberry pirogies bathed in sugary butter...yummm.... -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:08 AMYes, Spoon. I can kill a box of pirogies as well! Pirogie Party!!!!
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:58 PMPatsy
I want some blueberry ones!!!!!! Can I come to your M-i-L's house?
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:09 AMThey're crack is what they are. Do you have any concept of how many of these things I just consumed? I could have fed a family of four! I just murdered the entire extended family of Mr. Potato Head. Thanks for the info though... Damn. I need to go jogging or something.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:32 AMAre these the Mrs T's brand of pierogies? Those are my favorite pre-made ones.
I can actually make them from scratch because a friend of mine taught me how to make them (of note, if you are going to stuff them with potatoes instead of sauerkraut, use REAL MASHED POTATOES and not instant ones - lesson learned!), but is it a very long and labor intensive process and the frozen ones are so good!
I like to fry onions in butter and smother my pierogies with the onions and big doolap of sour cream. Yummy! -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:40 AM*drooooooooools*
I cannot get enough pierogies! I go through a family pack in a day if I don't restrain myself. Well, actually I can't get enough of anything potatoe, but these are very high on the list. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:57 AMYum! I married a Polish American guy - so now I get them at least every Christmas for Valija (total phonetic spelling...).
Potato and cottage cheese, potato onion, blueberry, you name it. Then you smother them with caramelized onions and butter and hope you don't have a heart attack. He also makes Christmas and Easter Barsht (not the Rusian beet borsht). Christmas is a mushroom soup with kielbasa juice. Easter is a boiled egg, chopped ham, teaspoon of vinegar in kielbasa juice soup (weird sounding but OMG good). ;-P -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:58 AMp.s. - i can't spell. I hit m keys on my keyboard WAY too lightly, so please forgive. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:05 AMYa'll are making me huuungry. One of my favorite dinners: Polish-American hubby makes the Polska Kielbasa and Ms. T's potato and cheddar pirogies. And they are boiled first then sauteed with caramelized onions and bacon chunks. My heart contracts from all the grease but it's only about once a month!!! I have to have the Kielbasa-pirogie fix!! -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 9:22 AMomg i want some now. you all made me hungry!!!
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:07 PM*drooly* I'm so hungry now!! Yep, but they're so time consuming you might as well just make 100 and freeze most of them. Then all you have to do is pop 'em out and cook.
Soo soo hungry...!
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:45 AMThey're crack is what they are. Do you have any concept of how many of these things I just consumed? I could have fed a family of four! I just murdered the entire extended family of Mr. Potato Head
Oh my god that is so funny!!! Why have 6 when you can have 12? LOLPMP....
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 10:27 AMMmmmmmmmmmm
my traditional birthday dinner was always Grandma's homemade pirogi with caramelized onions and butter, sour cream and real bacon bits. Add to that yummy goodness Kilbasa sausage or local farmers sausage and German style Cabbage Rolls.
Aaah, heart attack on a plate.
Anywhere you have a large number of Ukranians, Low Germans, and Polish types, you will find these tiny tasty pockets of eeevil goodness.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:42 AMI like dumplings in all forms, especcialy Pirogies... But gyoza and potstickers are good too...
My grand parents were from Poland so eating pirogies was a staple in our house.. My mother didn't make them but we did eat the bought ones.. Yummmy with anything on them.. I eat them now with sour cream, melted butter, bacon bits and shredded cheese... Ohhh maybe for lunch today? -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:48 AMOk forget the rice that I WAS going to fix for dinner.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:33 PMooo... I'm excited now... I'm getting fed pierogies for dinner tonight and I've never had them... -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 12:52 PMHow many of us will be having pierogies tonight I wonder?? I know I will now too!! -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:22 PMHeh, at Boston Pizza up here in the chilly North, they have pierogie pizza. It sounds odd, but damn it's good -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:20 PM"Heh, at Boston Pizza up here in the chilly North, they have pierogie pizza. It sounds odd, but damn it's good "
They used to offer it in the Prairie locations as one of those giant pizza pocket sandwiches too. Haven't seen it since I moved East tho.
Nice and spicy too!
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:23 PMOoh, I think we have some in the freezer. And I was already planning on making kielbasa and saurkraut tonight anyway. They totally go together. Awesome. -
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:37 PMSomeone HAD to go and mention cabbage rolls...a.k.a.gwumpke (sp?). My other Polish Mom-in-law makes the best gwumpke this side of Warsaw.
I do draw the line at the spinach potato pirogie...uuugh.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 7:24 PMI fell off the wagon and had them for supper. Cheddar and potatoe, with real bacon bits, onions and sour cream. Kilbassa cooked up with extra garlic. I also waved a leaf of lettuce at it.
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:28 AMOkay, now I'm hooked... we had the cheddar and potato ones... with a side of asparagus... YUMMY! :D
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 1:01 PMI was raised by my Belarussian grammy---She makes the BEST potato periogie.....mmmm with sour cream!!!!
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:21 PMWow, what a lot of spellings for perogie! Life without perogies? What a sad state! I don't even come by them ethnically (though my one aunt is a born-again Ukrainian...)
I've never heard of sweet perogies before. With berries and cream, eh?...
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:50 PMI've never heard about sweet ones either and neither has my mom, but she said she's going to try and make her own.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 8:33 PMlove pierogi (I've seen the piroghi spelling before too). we have a good friend who is polish and this is a thanksgiving/christmas staple in that household. because my mom's family is german we always had knödel (the Bavarian spelling) - a dumpling but not stuffed. about five years ago we learned how to make our own chinese dumplings/potstickers and that has become one of our favorite christmas/new years activities (we end up with hundreds).
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 10:26 PMGo to New York City, find my grandma, and eat her homemade perogies. Then bring me some, too. They are perfect. She taught me how to make them, but I can't do it quite like she does (yet).
If ya can't find her, go to Avenue A on the Lower East Side, try to avoid the hipsters, and hit up Odessa. They are open 24 hours and heir perogies aren't bad at all.
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Wed, April 23, 2008 - 11:05 PMHere, up north in Canda, Swiss chalet has a version too... Very yummy with a dipping sauce.. It's in thier appy part of the menu...
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Thu, April 24, 2008 - 7:09 AMBecause I know my Spoon will use this for good and not evil . . . these are almost as good as my Grandma used to make. My variation is to add sauteed onions and bacon bits right into either of the fillings. Enjoy!
*** Pyrohy ***
2.5 c flour
1/2 tsp salt
1 egg, beaten
2 tbsp vegetable oil
3/4 cup warm water
1/4 cup butter OR bacon fat
1/2 cup chopped onion
- In a mixing bowl, combine flour and salt
- Combine egg, oil, and water. Add to flour. Mix well. Knead on a lightly floured surface until dough is smooth.
- Cover dough and let "rest" for 20 minutes in a warm place.
- Roll out dough 1/4 inch thick on a lightly floured surface. Cut into circles using the floured rim of a drinking glass. (I use a highball glass myself.)
- Place a generous teaspoon of filling (see below) in th center of each circle. Pinch edges together with floured fingers to seal well. (Same as with pie crusts, i find it works better if i moisten the edge lightly before pressing together)
- Drop Pyrohy into boiling salted water, about a dozen at a time. Boil until they float for about a minute. Remove from water with slotted spoon.
- Toss cooked pyrohy with butter or bacon fat in which 1/2 cup of chopped onion has been fried
- Serve with sour cream and fried bacon bits.
*** Cheddar/Potato Filling ***
1/2 cup chopped onions
2 tbsp butter
2 cups mashed potatoes
1 cup grated cheddar cheese
1/2 tsp salt
1/4 tsp pepper
- Saute onions in butter until transparent. Combine with remaining ingredients. Mix well. Chill.
*** Cottage Cheese Filling ***
1/2 cup chopped onions
2 tbsp butter
2 cups dry cottage cheese
1 egg
1/2 tsp salt
1/4 tsp pepper
- Saute onions in butter until transparent. Combine with remaining ingredients. Mix well. Chill.