Self Control

topic posted Thu, January 3, 2008 - 2:40 PM by  Unsubscribed
I'd just like to discuss the fact of Mars in Capricorn self control...I personally I have a LARGE amount of self control..I think this is due to my mars. how about the rest of you?
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  • Re: Self Control

    Mon, January 7, 2008 - 12:45 PM
    I have a truck load of self control too... Too much, I often think. Mars in Capricorn are probably anything but impulsive and un-inhibited. And I'm very slow and strategic whenever I have certain plans for the future; wether it be getting the guy I'm crushing on or getting that job I want.
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      Sun, January 20, 2008 - 5:29 PM
      Dear lord, I didn't even make the connection that the excessive-self-control issue (count me in on that trait, too) is a Capricorn Mars thing, but that does make a lot of sense! I do wish I could be more uninhibited, often. I tend to feel like I have such a stick up my ass. I don't want to try because I don't want to fail or look stupid. I need to scheme so I can do things 'right,' but that often winds up with me not even putting out the effort, because I'm so afraid of failure. Gah.
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        Tue, January 22, 2008 - 11:14 AM
        Rothilda - thou art my twin : )
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          Tue, January 22, 2008 - 4:59 PM
          Ha! And I believe we are also Scorpio Moon twins, no? Perhaps that winds in here, somewhere, too...
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            Wed, January 23, 2008 - 12:13 PM
            I have Scorpio Moon and Rising, true. You're a Taurus or Gemini rising, right?? I remember noticing that your Cappy Mars is in the 8th house, whereas mine is in the 2nd.
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              Wed, January 23, 2008 - 8:01 PM
              Ooh, Scorp. Moon AND Rising, eh? Forgot that! I have a close friend with that combo, but with a Leo Sun. I'm a Taurus Sun w/Gemini Rising and, yes, my Mars is in the 8th. Interesting that our Marses are in opposite Houses!
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                Thu, January 24, 2008 - 1:26 PM
                Yeah. I imagine the 8th must be a very intense placement for Mars? With me, Cap Mars in the 2nd is obviously a very earthy position, with a very very strong sensuality and a love of luxury and finer / comfortable surroundings. Possessiveness is certainly also a strong theme in my chart (although Scorpio influences is probably mostly to blame for that).
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                  Thu, January 24, 2008 - 10:18 PM
                  I suppose the 8th must be an intense Mars placement, though I often have a hard time separating out the various Scorp-tinged segments of my chart and IDing them individually (and it could be the Mars-Neptune conjunction I have muddying it up, as well). I definitely have strong, obsessive desires and rather a one-track mind much of the time - I can tell ya that much! That 2nd House Cap Mars of yours MUST be very sensual and physical. And I can second on the possessiveness thing, between all my Scorpio and Taurus bidness (though my Scorp stuff does not even begin to compare to all of it in your chart - whoa!).
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                    Re: Self Control

                    Fri, January 25, 2008 - 3:17 PM
                    Lol :) I think I might start introducing myself as a "Scorpitarius" - that would be the most accurate description for me.

                    My Cappy Mars in the 2nd is sensual and physical fo' sho'! But it's the same with me as I am assuming it is with all Cappy Mars' people: I enter a relationship very slowly, always trying to stay in control (there's that word again) of myself and the situation. The mere idea of loosing control - well, it scares me and excites me at the same time. Once I've "given in" to someone though, my language is definitely that of physical touch as opposed to sweet words hearty promises. I need to *feel* my man. Words are just too empty.
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                      Mon, January 28, 2008 - 7:41 PM
                      Scorpitarius! How very fitting! If I were slightly more condensed into the two, I'd become Taurpio, perhaps, but I'm a little too spread out for that, I think...

                      I would definitely second that nicely phrased bit of yours about using the language of physical touch vs. "sweet words hearty promises." It always feels more genuine and comfortable for me to communicate that way, though I'd like to work on making myself articulate my affection for others in a way that feels genuine, as well, as I know some people just need that verbal confirmation. But physical presence feels very important with that ol' earthy Mars. I'd imagine your 2nd House would emphasize that even more (as would my Taurus Venus, come to think of it).

                      I was thinking about control and sex some more, reading your last post (particularly when you mentioned being both scared and excited by the idea of losing control), and finally made the connection (dur!) that I actually am very interested in the idea of giving up a large degree of control/being controlled by others, sexually, even while I'm very much about controlling myself and situations I'm in, otherwise. This must be a big Mars thing for me. I am really into bossy women and I'm definitely into submitting, masochism, being restrained (TMI, yet??)... I'm into the authority figure fetish, those older than me, and all that. I'm not sure how into all this I'd be if power inequality were much of a part of a relationship dynamic outside of sex, though, because I don't want to feel entirely vulnerable and want overall equality in any sort of relationship (be it sexual, platonic, whatever). But as a sort of play-form of temporarily giving up some control, it seems totally useful. I wonder how much a Cap Mars is oriented towards controlling the self vs. controlling others, or controlling the situation vs. being controlled by it. There must be some sort of balance in there, but control seems to be a big issue, whichever way that works... And is some of my 8th House/Pluto-y stuff wandering in here? I can't even tell.

                      Another thing, stepping away from control a little bit, is that I totally get off (in all areas of life... not just sex, now, but certainly not excluding that either - ha!) on achievement and success, particularly in areas in which I've worked hard. Which could be why, even with being into giving up control/submitting, at times, I am still inclined to be a top. Cap Mars, again, eh?
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                        Mon, January 28, 2008 - 7:44 PM
                        Clarification: At the end, there, "at times" was meant to modify the phrase "giving up control/submitting," NOT "I am still inclined to be a top." Not that it's actually that important! Need to preview the ol' posts.
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                          Tue, January 29, 2008 - 11:14 AM
                          Sex and control. What a splendid combination. Lol : )
                          Well, I was refering to the being in control / losing control thing to all areas of life, but I certainly wasn't excluding sex. I would love to lose control sexually - in safe environments, of course! I've always fantacised about being completely submissive to a "stronger soul", so to speak, to be completely at his mercy. Thus far though, I've had a tendency to get involved with men who always seem to put me in control, to whom I play the dominant role (if not in the bedroom, than at least in the relationship overall).

                          But falling in love basically means giving up control. Having an orgasm means giving up control. I want it, yet I fear it. I can be strongly drawn towards a guy, but if he gets too close too soon, I'll put my walls further up than before and distance myself again, only to kick myself later for being such a wuss, fearing I might have lost what I *could* have had... :-/

                          (Sigh) Ain't love grand?

                          It might also be about the other guy though (indirectly, anyway). Both Capricorn and Scorpio need to feel that they are in control of the situation, no matter what it might be. If I don't feel that I can "handle" the guy I'm with, I'm likely to run no matter how much I really want to stay. I will not lose my dignity for anyone, lol. Apparently, I'd rather lose romantic opportunities instead...

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