I have been reading up on monkey fist construction, and I am confused as to what would work best for the core. I was planning on constructin standard 4 byte fists and was wondering what some of you would suggest for a core?
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Re: monkey fist question
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 8:16 AMI haven't made a lot of monkey fists, but the way I've been making them is by constructing a two-bight knot to serve as the core, and tucking that inside the four-bight knot. This is all done using the same length of rope, which is a little tricky. This is pretty much the method Matthew at Flamma Aeterna uses, and he documents it here:
www.flammaaeterna.com/t-tutmf.aspx
(I use a slightly different method for rigging the connector, but nothing significant).
One pitfall I've discovered is that making the knots too tight shortens burn time. Making them too loose obviously doesn't work.
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Re: monkey fist question
Mon, May 5, 2008 - 10:28 AMInstead of a kevlar core, I use a wood ball. This lets me get the attaching hardware just right on them. Burn time seems fine.
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Re: monkey fist question
Thu, May 22, 2008 - 10:31 PMI have seen the wood balls eventually burn and the connectors dis-connect...Not ideal.
I prefer an absorbent core. Either make a kevlar core like previously described or.... I made a pair with towel rolled up in a ball (about 3/4 to 1 inch in diameter) encased it in wire, (wrapping it round and round it) then created a strong loop out of wire to use as an attachment point (similar to the ball with a screw eye that most people use, except it's all one piece, and the towel acts as a fuel resevoir....I get a good long burn time out of my tiny 3 byte monkey fists.... (Im a 5 footer woman and don't want really heavy balls U know...) and I've had other spinners comment at festivals and such that I get an incredible burn time out of such tiny poi....
Hope that helps, use a decent and strong gauge wire, but coat hanger wire is too thick and not flexi enough. -
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Re: monkey fist question
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 11:15 AMYeah, I had that problem in the prototypes, but switched to a four-finger fist and got sufficient coverage to protect the ball. And then, of course there's metal hardware in there too.
I suppose wood is as susceptible as cotton for this effect, I just prefer the ability to have load rated hardware in there. I toyed with the kevlar cores, but when I took them apart post burn, I found them to be mostly still fueled. I presumed that the shell effect of putting a (in my case) cathedral inside a rope cage didn't allow the transfer of fuel across the kevlar. When I switched to a solid core, I got about the same burn time and a rounder wick.
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Re: monkey fist question
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 4:19 PMHome of Poi are made from two cubes of wood that are then glued together sandwiching the hardware nut. I have had zero problems with damage to the wood as it is completely covered. -
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Re: monkey fist question
Fri, May 23, 2008 - 7:59 PMExactly. I like to rivet the bolts over the nuts, but, yeah, same idea.
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